Take a look at Koufax rookie on the Bay. Hilarious!

RonBurgundy · January 7, 2009 7:47AM

Legit? Hilarious

jimq112 · January 7, 2009 7:50AM

It's an 8 OC, the flash covers the OC.

BPorter26 · January 7, 2009 8:01AM

What a joke, You can tell the card is off center on the back of it. Flash covers up the OC

41GoudeyGuy · January 7, 2009 8:13AM

ITEM INFORMATION
Cert Verification #: 06472518
Year: 1955
Brand: TOPPS
Card Number: 123
Player: SANDY KOUFAX
Variety:
Grade: NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC

Very misleading. I'm not convinced the flash covered up that OC. I think it was photoshopped out.

WinPitcher · January 7, 2009 8:15AM

It was funny yesterday.

Steve

RonBurgundy · January 7, 2009 8:27AM

Nice stain on the back too. Good grief, the card is already up to $2000. Someone is going to be ticked when they get it.

WinPitcher · January 7, 2009 8:34AM

I saw that too, but is it a stain? the 'stain' is also on the slab making me think it may be a shadow?

Steve

relaxed · January 7, 2009 8:40AM

The VCP average for a 55 Koufax is around $2400.00. No were in the description is there a mention of a o/c. Yes whoever wins this card is going to be really UPSET to say the least.

brendanb438 · January 7, 2009 8:46AM

Has anyone messaged the seller asking him what is up with that pic being altered? I am interested in what type of response if any he gives.

WinPitcher · January 7, 2009 8:47AM

The guy left himself an out by including the cert number in the title.

He will say that potential buyers could have looked it up.

That he has no idea what the qualifier means etc etc

Scammer in every sense of the word.

I think at least 10 guys here emailed him asking if it was OC.

Steve

edited to add: I don't think he has replied to any of the questions asked of him.

jfkheat · January 7, 2009 8:48AM

I emailed him and will post his response if I get one.
James

larryallen73 · January 7, 2009 8:48AM

Maybe we ALL should report it so Ebay will take notice!?

69Cubs · January 7, 2009 8:52AM

He doesn't accept returns either.

Mike

storm888 · January 7, 2009 8:53AM

<< <i>Maybe we ALL should report it so Ebay will take notice!? >>

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It has been repeatedly "reported."

EvilBAY does not care.

Hopefully, the victim will pay with a credit card.

otwcards · January 7, 2009 8:59AM

I'm goint to take this a step further. I contend that the OC qualifier is not obscured by the flash, but was intentionally editted to appear as though it was part of the flash. The flash would not change the color of the flip surrounding the reflection, but it would obscure it. Notice the change in color of the flip immediately surrounding the secondary "flash." I believe the seller intentionally Photoshopped or otherwise altered the image to make it appear as though it is part of the flash. It is a totally scummy way to do business and in my mind, there is ZERO chance that this was accidental.

jimq112 · January 7, 2009 9:02AM

So is this the card where a winning bidder can not pay and still leave an honest feedback?

Mphilking · January 7, 2009 9:14AM

I'm with OTW. I think this may have been intentional. This was mentioned on one of the boards yesterday and several notified Ebay and PMed the seller. I PMed the seller and over a day later have rec'd no response. Another guy is selling a Sandy Koufax Dodgers Hall of Fame Plaque + Auto Item number: 370116177088. I PMed the guy and asked him if it's real, I get a "Of course not, you can't get a Koufax auto for $25". So I asked him to make it clearer and no response. Here is what is in his description.
"THE PIECE IS PROFESSIONALLY MOUNTED AND MATTED WITH A COPY OF THE BASEBALL GREAT'S AUTHENTIC SIGNATURE TAKEN FROM MY PERSONAL COLLECTION. "

bman90278 · January 7, 2009 9:22AM

I reported it to ebay and listed it as a fraudalant listing with a deceptive listing description and explained how the photoshopped glare is blocking the (OC). Maybe a few more people can do the same so everything works out ok.

Brian

storm888 · January 7, 2009 9:28AM

"I'm goint to take this a step further. I contend that the OC qualifier is not obscured by the flash, but was intentionally editted to appear as though it was part of the flash. .."

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I made that allegation in the first thread about this card.

I told EBAY the thing was PSd and that the seller is a FRAUDster.

No results, yet.

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The card can be bought, and honest FB left, BUT the buyer needs to wait
a day or so before leaving the FB. Otherwise, the crook can prolly have the
FB removed.

IchiroDeported · January 7, 2009 9:30AM

i also contacted the seller
and reported it to Ebay.

tennesseebanker · January 7, 2009 9:56AM

almost every card he has listed with a cert # in the auction title has a qualifier, with no mention of the qualifier in the listing. This guy is a POS !

corvette1340 · January 7, 2009 10:03AM

I sent him a question asking why he is scamming people like this. No response as of yet.

What would be the repurcussions if someone bid $10,000 on this thing and then didn't pay? I'm thinking about doing that to this POS.

EagleEyeKid · January 7, 2009 10:18AM

No one touch that card, it is mine!
The flip is photoshopped. It's not the flash.
The flash give it an added touch, but look closer and you'll
see how white the flip is surrounding the letters which
he also covered the OC with.

nightcrawler · January 7, 2009 10:24AM

He did respond to one of the guys by simply telling him to "F*** OFF".

I think Scott is right about the photoshop. But if the pic hasn't been retouched, there was another light or two added to create this glare.

storm888 · January 7, 2009 10:34AM

"What would be the repurcussions if someone bid $10,000 on this thing and then didn't pay? I'm thinking about doing that to this POS. "

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Just wait 24-hours or so before you leave FB.

Don't communicate with the CRIMINAL via EBAY after the close. String him along for a bit,
and ONLY use regular email to communicate; NOT the EBAY messages thingy.

The CRIMINAL will file an NPB to get his FVFs back.

Respond to the NPB that "you discovered the listing was fraudulent after the auction ended."
EBAY will remove any "strike" the CRIMINAL gives you and they will allow your NEG to stick.

nightcrawler · January 7, 2009 10:36AM

Yep, adding flash to hide stuff takes about 2 minutes???

MBMiller25 · January 7, 2009 11:00AM

<< <i>He did respond to one of the guys by simply telling him to "F*** OFF". >>

I contacted this seller yesterday, and got the response back that you see above.

This guy is a piece of crap, we need to do a number on this guy and bid this card up into the million+ dollar area.

storm888 · January 7, 2009 11:06AM

What is a PSA 5 or 6 - of the SK card - worth retail ?

Blackie · January 7, 2009 11:14AM

Wow this aint good.............wish we could warn the bidder.........

Sportsamerica · January 7, 2009 11:19AM

Ok.. Who bid this up to over $7k??

otwcards · January 7, 2009 11:22AM

I'm pretty sure the high bidder won't be a paying bidder...

goraiders · January 7, 2009 11:33AM

<< <i>I'm pretty sure the high bidder won't be a paying bidder... >>

Good job

MBMiller25 · January 7, 2009 11:38AM

Perfect, I really want this card, I am bidding 1 Million dollars for it.

Blackie · January 7, 2009 11:41AM

I reported this too..................just now. Seller is hot!!

MBMiller25 · January 7, 2009 11:42AM

Would someone mind putting a bid in on this card for $99,999! Thanks!

WinPitcher · January 7, 2009 11:42AM

Storm a legit 8 goes for around 2k or a lil more.

a 7 is a 1000.00 card

a 6 is a 600.00 card

a 5 is a 450.00 card.

These are prices from when I actively bought and sold this set.

They of course could be a lil higher now.

An 8OC IMO is a 500.00 to 750.00 card depending on how it is OC.

Many 55's are OC in a way that does not take away from the overall appeal of the card
usually the sides are 50/50 but the t/b is 90/10 those cards still look nice.

If the OC is side to side, the eye appeal is lacking.

Steve

MBMiller25 · January 7, 2009 11:43AM

WinPitcher · January 7, 2009 11:46AM

This fool must know that people are messing with him. A true PSA 8 is a 2k card.

maybe 2,300.00.

Steve

goraiders · January 7, 2009 11:53AM

I wonder why he doesn't try to hide the O.C.'S on the other cards
he has up?

zep33 · January 7, 2009 11:57AM

Blackie · January 7, 2009 12:08PM

I sent a scan of the cert check to ebay................hopefully they will see it.........

stevek · January 7, 2009 12:35PM

Link: http://www.psacard.com/Cert/06472518.html

downtown · January 7, 2009 12:44PM

I also sent info on the cert check to ebay the other day, no action yet...

TheVon · January 8, 2009 7:16AM

The auction is up to $7100. What's the FVF for that amount? I hope this guy gets screwed.

WinPitcher · January 8, 2009 7:34AM

If no sale actually takes place the seller will not have to pay any FVF's

IMO this seller is just asking for trouble.

Steve

BPorter26 · January 8, 2009 8:29AM

I can't believe this card is over $7000

RonBurgundy · January 8, 2009 8:35AM

Guys, I applaud your fine work here. I think it's a great idea for someone to make sure they "win" the auction and put this defrauder out of bidness on this one.

RB

ahkmedbinladen · January 8, 2009 8:36AM

Hey Burgundy,
Please check your Pm and get back to me.
Thanks

123Slider · January 8, 2009 8:46AM

This is one way to get the VCP averages to go up

bman90278 · January 8, 2009 12:53PM

Just wanting to see if anyone is really going to bid on this card??? I want to bid on it, but how high do we need to bid to outbid a legitimate buyer?

I also sent the seller another question since he has not answered my first one.. I basically said, you know darn well the card is a 8 (OC) card and you have intentionally listed it as a PSA 8 card knowing it will sell for much more money. Additionally you altered the photo as well. You need to do the right thing and end the auction or you will probably get lots of bids from future non-paying bidders. BTW, you are a piece of s_hit and a low life loser.

Brian

mtcards · January 8, 2009 1:39PM

I think the legit bidders are already out of the picture on this one.

I checked his other auctions....check out the Fisk RC he has for sale and then check out the scan of the back. It is the rare topps error Fisk Rookie front, Gwynn rookie back, must be worth a million

Take a look at Koufax rookie on the Bay. Hilarious!

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