Who says Anacs isn't getting strict?

DoubleEagle59 · December 19, 2008 10:27AM

Take a look at this 1879-s Morgan I recently submitted.

Upon receiving it back, it took me about 10 seconds to decide to crack it out and place it back in my Album.

I think it should have graded as MS65 PL,

but Anacs graded it as MS64 (not even a PL) !!!

tightbudget · December 19, 2008 10:30AM

How does the reverse look?

STONE · December 19, 2008 10:30AM

Looks like a high end 64, but not too surprised it didn't 65.

The PL is possible, but it's tough to tell from that image.

MICHAELDIXON · December 19, 2008 10:33AM

IMO it would not make 65. That is due to excessive chatter in the field in front of Liberty's face. Also, behind the head has field chatter and the neck isn't clean enough to make 65.

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coinkat · December 19, 2008 10:37AM

It is an attractive coin, but remember that it is an 1879-s and these come nice and this date, like the 1880-s and 81-a, are graded tight. The PL surfaces magnify the chatter in the fields. If it were an 1885-s, it likely would have been graded a 65.

I think ANACs got it right, but it is still a nice coin

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 19, 2008 10:43AM

take it out of the dansco- place on a sheet of newspaper to should the pl of it, I agree from the pic it is a solid 64 but would need to see the reverse as well.

Goldbully · December 19, 2008 10:45AM

They've been very tough on IHC's too!!

Raybo · December 19, 2008 11:10AM

<< It is an attractive coin, but remember that it is an 1879-s and these come nice and this date, like the 1880-s and 81-a, are graded tight. The PL surfaces magnify the chatter in the fields. If it were an 1885-s, it likely would have been graded a 65.

I think ANACs got it right, but it is still a nice coin >>

1881-a?

That's a new one to me.

Ray

PS I had to be a smart a...

commoncents05 · December 19, 2008 11:25AM

ANACS gold label holders are very strict. I had an Isabella Quarter ANACS AU55 that looked Unc to me. Nice coin.

-Paul

Al21 · December 19, 2008 11:52AM

I agree

BlindedByEgo · December 19, 2008 11:53AM

Maybe you should post this at the ANACS message board

CertifiedGoldCoins · December 19, 2008 11:30PM

It's a very nice coin, and was not diminished by a number printed on a label, nor would it be enhanced by a different number. The more threads like this that I read, the more convinced I am that my original (negative) opinion of grading by the numbers was correct.

Coin collecting has gone too far in the wrong direction. Why is a paper label (and stickers on top of that!) more important than the coin itself? Why do people love a coin -- or hate it -- just because someone else gives it one number, or another?

DoubleEagle59 · December 19, 2008 11:36PM

<< It's a very nice coin, and was not diminished by a number printed on a label, nor would it be enhanced by a different number. The more threads like this that I read, the more convinced I am that my original (negative) opinion of grading by the numbers was correct.

Coin collecting has gone too far in the wrong direction. Why is a paper label (and stickers on top of that!) more important than the coin itself? Why do people love a coin -- or hate it -- just because someone else gives it one number, or another? >>

I definitely understand your point of view,

Unfortunately, our society is based on 'standards' and 'competitiveness' and 'making money'. These three factors all lead to the formation of one or two Industry Guru's (the TPG's) that tell us what's good and what's not.

I think in the long run, it's a good thing, but as evident from all the varying opinions on this forum, we still have a long way to go.

Halfhunter06 · December 19, 2008 11:42PM

can you show a pic of the reverse?

DoubleEagle59 · December 19, 2008 11:51PM

<< can you show a pic of the reverse? >>

here's the reverse pics....

TorinoCobra71 · December 19, 2008 11:55PM

You got a REVERSE pic that you can post?

CertifiedGoldCoins · December 20, 2008 12:04AM

<< Unfortunately, our society is based on 'standards' and 'competitiveness' and 'making money'. These three factors all lead to the formation of one or two Industry Guru's (the TPG's) that tell us what's good and what's not. >>

I agree with the word "Unfortunately."

291fifth · December 20, 2008 12:07AM

Far too much chatter in the field for a 65.

ColonialCoinUnion · December 20, 2008 12:07AM

<< Who says Anacs isn't getting strict? >>

I don't recall anyone saying anything about ANACS.

garsmith · December 20, 2008 12:43AM

Who is ANACS

Coxe · December 20, 2008 1:04AM

I think the 64 is right for that coin. No way of assessing the mirrors, but the 79-S should have reasonable ones without haze or interruptions.

RYK · December 20, 2008 1:06AM

<< Who is ANACS

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Better known as ICGNACS.

Who even looks at them any more?

ksteelheader · December 20, 2008 1:09AM

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