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Who says Anacs isn't getting strict?
DoubleEagle59
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Take a look at this 1879-s Morgan I recently submitted.
Upon receiving it back, it took me about 10 seconds to decide to crack it out and place it back in my Album.
I think it should have graded as MS65 PL,
but Anacs graded it as MS64 (not even a PL) !!!
Upon receiving it back, it took me about 10 seconds to decide to crack it out and place it back in my Album.
I think it should have graded as MS65 PL,
but Anacs graded it as MS64 (not even a PL) !!!
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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The PL is possible, but it's tough to tell from that image.
I think ANACs got it right, but it is still a nice coin
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<< <i>It is an attractive coin, but remember that it is an 1879-s and these come nice and this date, like the 1880-s and 81-a, are graded tight. The PL surfaces magnify the chatter in the fields. If it were an 1885-s, it likely would have been graded a 65.
I think ANACs got it right, but it is still a nice coin >>
1881-a?
That's a new one to me.
Ray
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Coin collecting has gone too far in the wrong direction. Why is a paper label (and stickers on top of that!) more important than the coin itself? Why do people love a coin -- or hate it -- just because someone else gives it one number, or another?
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<< <i>It's a very nice coin, and was not diminished by a number printed on a label, nor would it be enhanced by a different number. The more threads like this that I read, the more convinced I am that my original (negative) opinion of grading by the numbers was correct.
Coin collecting has gone too far in the wrong direction. Why is a paper label (and stickers on top of that!) more important than the coin itself? Why do people love a coin -- or hate it -- just because someone else gives it one number, or another? >>
I definitely understand your point of view,
Unfortunately, our society is based on 'standards' and 'competitiveness' and 'making money'. These three factors all lead to the formation of one or two Industry Guru's (the TPG's) that tell us what's good and what's not.
I think in the long run, it's a good thing, but as evident from all the varying opinions on this forum, we still have a long way to go.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
<< <i>can you show a pic of the reverse? >>
here's the reverse pics....
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
<< <i>Unfortunately, our society is based on 'standards' and 'competitiveness' and 'making money'. These three factors all lead to the formation of one or two Industry Guru's (the TPG's) that tell us what's good and what's not. >>
I agree with the word "Unfortunately."
my early American coins & currency: -- http://yankeedoodlecoins.com/
<< <i>Who says Anacs isn't getting strict? >>
I don't recall anyone saying anything about ANACS.
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more?
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more? >>
Nice sig pic!!!!!
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more? >>
Nice sig pic!!!!!
Thanks!!
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more? >>
Nice sig pic!!!!!
Thanks!!
I used to love the Steelers in the day of Bradshaw, Swan and Stallworth.
Can't say the same now ever since Rothsburger (or whatever his name is) wouldn't endorse wearing motorcycle helmets to young riders after his accident. Big dufus in my opinion.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more? >>
Nice sig pic!!!!!
Thanks!!
I used to love the Steelers in the day of Bradshaw, Swan and Stallworth.
Can't say the same now ever since Rothsburger (or whatever his name is) wouldn't endorse wearing motorcycle helmets to young riders after his accident. Big dufus in my opinion. >>
I was a Steelers fan when they went 0-9 every year.
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more? >>
Nice sig pic!!!!!
Thanks!!
I used to love the Steelers in the day of Bradshaw, Swan and Stallworth.
Can't say the same now ever since Rothsburger (or whatever his name is) wouldn't endorse wearing motorcycle helmets to young riders after his accident. Big dufus in my opinion. >>
I was a Steelers fan when they went 0-9 every year. >>
I can top that!!
I've been a Toronto Maple Leafs fan and they haven't won the Stanley Cup since 1967!!
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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<< <i>Who is ANACS
Better known as ICGNACS.
Who even looks at them any more? >>
Nice sig pic!!!!!
Thanks!!
I used to love the Steelers in the day of Bradshaw, Swan and Stallworth.
Can't say the same now ever since Rothsburger (or whatever his name is) wouldn't endorse wearing motorcycle helmets to young riders after his accident. Big dufus in my opinion. >>
I was a Steelers fan when they went 0-9 every year. >>
I can top that!!
I've been a Toronto Maple Leafs fan and they haven't won the Stanley Cup since 1967!!
I'm a Penguins fan. Surprise, surprise!!
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
<< <i>The Ravens were robbed...
Maybe, but the ultimate robbery was the Buffalo Sabres loss in the Stanley Cup final when Hull's skate was blatantly in the crease on the winning goal.
That year, they called everything..I mean absolutely everything in the crease, yet they 'overlooked' this one.
I didn't feel sorry for the Buffalo Bill's losses in the Super Bowls, but I did feel sorry for the Sabres loss. Truly disgusting officiating.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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<< <i>The Ravens were robbed...
Maybe, but the ultimate robbery was the Buffalo Sabres loss in the Stanley Cup final when Hull's skate was blatantly in the crease on the winning goal.
That year, they called everything..I mean absolutely everything in the crease, yet they 'overlooked' this one.
I didn't feel sorry for the Buffalo Bill's losses in the Super Bowls, but I did feel sorry for the Sabres loss. Truly disgusting officiating. >>
It's just like coin grading, "better luck next time."
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<< <i>The Ravens were robbed...
Maybe, but the ultimate robbery was the Buffalo Sabres loss in the Stanley Cup final when Hull's skate was blatantly in the crease on the winning goal.
That year, they called everything..I mean absolutely everything in the crease, yet they 'overlooked' this one.
I didn't feel sorry for the Buffalo Bill's losses in the Super Bowls, but I did feel sorry for the Sabres loss. Truly disgusting officiating. >>
It's just like coin grading, "better luck next time."
I don't know...you can't resubmit a Stanley Cup final.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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<< <i>The Ravens were robbed...
Maybe, but the ultimate robbery was the Buffalo Sabres loss in the Stanley Cup final when Hull's skate was blatantly in the crease on the winning goal.
That year, they called everything..I mean absolutely everything in the crease, yet they 'overlooked' this one.
I didn't feel sorry for the Buffalo Bill's losses in the Super Bowls, but I did feel sorry for the Sabres loss. Truly disgusting officiating. >>
It's just like coin grading, "better luck next time."
I don't know...you can't resubmit a Stanley Cup final. >>
Dat true.
It DOES look to be PL, particularly the Reverse.
Didn't ANACS & ICG play musical chair here lately?
IMHO, whenever I see a coin in an ANACS slab,
it implies doubt on the part of the submitter!
What other reasoning can there be?
<< <i>IMHO, whenever I see a coin in an ANACS slab,
it implies doubt on the part of the submitter!
What other reasoning can there be?
sorry to disagree with you boom...but there are a ton of varieties out there that need the variety listed on the label... or otherwise you'd not be able to keep track ,or prove the variety to anyone else...as in my case with Lincoln cents.
i have 1038 Rpms and over 225 doubled dies...so actually i have no doubts about their grades or their nomenclature of variety.
no other tpg will list as many varieties as anacs...period.
another reason could be that certain tpg's are pricing themselves out of the common mans market.....it getting to be like football games!
a lot of people...( rich and poor )...like football...only the rich can afford the season tickets, the poor are watching on t.v.
a lot of people...(rich and poor )...like coin collecting...only the rich can afford to use the top tier tpg's....the rest of use have to use anacs for our plastic fix
but i digress...and rant...