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OK, so I have a 1955 DDO NGC AU53BN and...
EvilEmpire
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...send it off to PCGS, I know its a solid 53, hope it might go to 55, but simply ask to cross at same grade minimum. Just got the order info, and my 1955 DDO NGC AU53BN is now in a PCGS holder.....but it's in an AU53BN FS 101 (FS 021.8). Can someone please tell me what I actually have? Is my coin still considered 'a '55 DDO in the truest sense, or is it now a 'lesser' variety, thereby having the value of it plummet, or is it the opposite...a true '55 DDO, but a rarer variety, hence..... Basically, can someone that knows FS designations (I obviously don't, or I wouldn't ask). I am hoping against hope I just didn't hose myself and have a $2,000 coin turn into a $700 coin because of this designation. Anyone??? And if it's 'bad news', please be gentle.....I am beside myself on this and quite fragile, but I need to know the truth. Thanks, I hope!
I'll come up with something, eventually.
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Ray
...then it ain't the big kahuna.
FS-021.8 (Coneca die-1) (new FS number FS-101) is the big one.
FS-021-9 (Coneca die-2) (new FS number FS-102) is less drastic but rarer in numbers. It still gets good money but less than the other.
FS numbers are the Fivaz Stanton Cherry Pickers Guide numbers.
<< <i>Yours is the good one.
FS-021.8 (Coneca die-1) (new FS number FS-101) is the big one.
FS-021-9 (Coneca die-2) (new FS number FS-102) is less drastic but rarer in numbers. It still gets good money but less than the other.
FS numbers are the Fivaz Stanton Cherry Pickers Guide numbers. >>
Why make it so complicated? I know lots of eBayers who post FS numbers to deceive others as to the value, the most common of these being the 1972 Doubled Die Cent.
Raybo, I am not sure I understand exactly where you are going with that link.
It IS genuinely a '55 DDO Big Kahuna, thats why I sent it off to have it reholdered, putting it in its proper holder for the what if.... I am hoping I get alot more support like GrumpyEd's. CAN anyone confirm that GrumpyEd's (not that I dont trust you, GrumpyEd, I just gotta make damn well sure I still have what I HAD) info is correct and I can still feel that warm, comfy feeling of knowing I have a real '55 DDO?
<< <i>mike92694, thats EXACTLY why I ask. I see that happen flagrantly on the '72 DDO, however, according to the online pop reports, there have been 10 '55 DDO graded as the DDO 101 (FS 021.8), this would make #11 in total. I was concerened that when/if it came time to sell, would I get stomped on for not being the, as tightbudget says, Big Kahuna. I will note, however, that the variety IS listed in the pop reports under the 'Big Kahuna' pop, its just a variety OF the Big Kahuna. However, I do like what I am hearing from GrumpyEd.
Raybo, I am not sure I understand exactly where you are going with that link.
It IS genuinely a '55 DDO Big Kahuna, thats why I sent it off to have it reholdered, putting it in its proper holder for the what if.... I am hoping I get alot more support like GrumpyEd's. CAN anyone confirm that GrumpyEd's (not that I dont trust you, GrumpyEd, I just gotta make damn well sure I still have what I HAD) info is correct and I can still feel that warm, comfy feeling of knowing I have a real '55 DDO? >>
I had to "Google" to find the answer.
edited to add: as an aside to what tightbudget said, I haven't seen the coin since late October. It was logged in as received on Nov 3, and shipped today. I do believe, given the holiday timeframe, with Turkey day off, and possibly the Friday after, it took less than the scheduled 35 days.
They list the die number, FS number and their own coppercoins 1DO numbers and photos. Notice how much stronger yours is than the second one:
coppercoins listing for 55
Look at Conecas listing, they list their Coneca number and the old and new FS numbers:
Conecas listing for 55
Rest easy, yours is the big Kahuna : )
Ray
Yours was submitted under the error service so they give it the full designation and only those show up in their own pop.
The total pop are those 2825, 2826, 2827 plus the other 10 in the error service pop added together, they're the same coin.
(or I should say 2825, 2826, 2827 plus all of the ones under that number in the error service in BN-RB-RD)
<< <i>AU50 price >>
Yep that must be old, go by the PCGS guide
You could have saved a few bucks sending yours the normal way.
Ray
You could of saved yourself some head aches (and money
Ray
<< <i>The PCGS pop is low because if it was submitted under normal service it gets the 2825, 2826, 2827 numbers and shows up in that pop.
Yours was submitted under the error service so they give it the full designation and only those show up in their own pop.
The total pop are those 2825, 2826, 2827 plus the other 10 in the error service pop added together, they're the same coin.
(or I should say 2825, 2826, 2827 plus all of the ones under that number in the error service in BN-RB-RD)
That was my thinking as well, but I was not sure
<< <i>So, to close this wretched case, I simply overpaid by $10 to get a '55 DDO graded with its FS numbers on it, ultimately paying $10 for them to put extra characters on the label.....15 extra characters, $10 extra dollars....as long as I have what I thought I had, I'm happy. Wow, overpaying for a coin is one thing, but to overpay for GRADING...you'll all have to excuse me as I dig a hole to stick my head in for awhile. >>
Look at it this way: You didn't overpay for grading...you got the same grade. You just paid extra for the designation
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>If the obverse doesn't look like this...
...then it ain't the big kahuna. >>
All of them look like this; it doesn't matter what number is printed in a catalogue. Supposedly, 20,000 were made from the same die, so there are no variants. Anything else that is wistfully called a "1955 Doubled Die" is an entirely different animal. Even though the title for them may be technically correct, because they were struck from other, slightly doubled dies, they sure weren't struck from "the" doubled die, and are of little real value.
I found one in circulation, around 1961, when they were heavily advertised in the local (Boston) newspapers, with constantly increasing "buy" prices, starting at $45. I sold mine for $175, a huge sum for a high-school kid making $1.05 per hour at a supermarket.
You might ask how was it possible for me to find such a scarce coin? Simple. I looked through a lot of rolls. According to what I've read, the coins were spotted at the Mint, and released in spite of the defect. They were shipped to Boston, and one or two bags went to a bank in Kenmore Square, a block from Fenway Park. I live only a few miles away, so mine had not traveled very far.
I was only 11 in 1955, and years away from collecting, but I asked around years later, once I found mine. From what I was told, local coin dealers were flooded with them in 1955, possibly by a bank teller who bought one of the bags. Supposedly, you could buy them in the beginning for 25 cents, and they attracted little notice. A few years later, coin collecting got more popular (the 1959 release of the first Lincoln Memorial Cents had something to do with that), and the rest is history.
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Here is the "Other" 55 DDO.
It is a DDO despite what anyone says and a very nice and very collectible DDO also.
In fact this one is exponentially rarer than the biggie, but obviously less sought after.
Unless you are a real Lincoln variety collector, then you know this one is MUCH harder to find, and nearly
impossible to find nice compared to the biggie.
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<< <i>I prefer the 1955 with the crazy doubling >>
So do I.
Difference is I paid dearly for this one, but got my DDO-002 for a penny
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