Personal referances?

BRdude · November 24, 2008 8:39PM

Hi all. I am about to send some "stuff" to BECOKA for imaging. Trouble is, I don't know him except on these forums. Can youall give me some referances for him?? I know in my heart he's good as gold, but would feel better hearing it from others who know him better than I do. Thanks..

RyGuy · November 24, 2008 8:50PM

I will be doing the same as well, but based on how well-known he is on the forums, I'm not really worrying about it too much.

Ryan

darktone · November 24, 2008 9:06PM

smart move to do this. I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening. Just yesterday their was a thread with a member saying he lost $250,000!!

RyGuy · November 24, 2008 9:08PM

<< smart move to do this. I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening. Just yesterday their was a thread with a member saying he lost $250,000!! >>

Was your coin eventually recovered or did that forum member end up disappearing from the boards after this incident?

Ryan

RYK · November 24, 2008 9:25PM

<< smart move to do this. I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening. Just yesterday their was a thread with a member saying he lost $250,000!! >>

This is a misleading statement. The forum member who "lost $250,000" from another forum member had an ongoing business relationship with another (one was employed by the other on a full time basis for 2+ years). This was not example of a member who sent another a coin for sale and imaging and never received it back.

I only know Beckoa from these forums, other than a book sale on ebay, have never done business with Beckoa, but based on his reputation here and in the numismatic community, would not hesitate to send him coins for imaging.

Incidents of chicanery between forum members have been very few, the exception rather than the rule.

Placid · November 24, 2008 9:26PM

As long as you dont sent him any early gold you should be fine.

BRdude · November 24, 2008 9:35PM

<< As long as you dont sent him any early gold you should be fine. >>

What I am contemplating sending is more valualbe than any gold.

ajaan · November 24, 2008 9:41PM

I have sent numerous coins to Ben to image. Never had a problem. He is tops in my book. Very quick turnaround time also.

mozeppa · November 24, 2008 9:55PM

becoka who??

darktone · November 24, 2008 9:57PM

<< 

<< smart move to do this. I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening. Just yesterday their was a thread with a member saying he lost $250,000!! >>

Was your coin eventually recovered or did that forum member end up disappearing from the boards after this incident?

Ryan >>

No it was never recovered.

Placid · November 24, 2008 10:00PM

<< What I am contemplating sending is more valualbe than any gold. >>

If its worth more than the $7.5 million dollar 1933 saint then you might want to use pcgs tru-view

darktone · November 24, 2008 10:01PM

<< 

<< smart move to do this. I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening. Just yesterday their was a thread with a member saying he lost $250,000!! >>

This is a misleading statement. The forum member who "lost $250,000" from another forum member had an ongoing business relationship with another (one was employed by the other on a full time basis for 2+ years). This was not example of a member who sent another a coin for sale and imaging and never received it back.

I only know Beckoa from these forums, other than a book sale on ebay, have never done business with Beckoa, but based on his reputation here and in the numismatic community, would not hesitate to send him coins for imaging.

Incidents of chicanery between forum members have been very few, the exception rather than the rule. >>

RYK- I don't know the specifics of what that one- all I know is he said he was out $250 to a forum member- a well respected one- at one time anyway's.

richardshipp · November 24, 2008 11:15PM

<< 

<< 

<< smart move to do this. I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening. Just yesterday their was a thread with a member saying he lost $250,000!! >>

This is a misleading statement. The forum member who "lost $250,000" from another forum member had an ongoing business relationship with another (one was employed by the other on a full time basis for 2+ years). This was not example of a member who sent another a coin for sale and imaging and never received it back.

I only know Beckoa from these forums, other than a book sale on ebay, have never done business with Beckoa, but based on his reputation here and in the numismatic community, would not hesitate to send him coins for imaging.

Incidents of chicanery between forum members have been very few, the exception rather than the rule. >>

RYK- I don't know the specifics of what that one- all I know is he said he was out $250 to a forum member- a well respected one- at one time anyway's. >>

darktone- If you don't know the specifics why would you reference it ? The 250k mentioned was a business dealing that had nothing to do with the forums. You said "I lost a nice coin to a forum member and their have been numerous incidents of this happening." If you spoke to those issues you were involved in, or are familiar with and how they relate to Becoka it might help the OPer make his decision.

Personally, I would have no confidence issues in sending Becoka coins for imaging, although I've not done it.

lasvegasteddy · November 24, 2008 11:21PM

i can bow in here

ben is a class act and i'm more then happy to send my coins his way

currently as soon as i'm paid the 1st of this month i'm sending a very true rarirty in my 1964 sms dime....mind you a coin that has an estimated 25 to 30 total mintage

i think if you get over your fears you'll see why i'm entrusting my prized coins with him...he's class pure plain n simple

CertifiedGoldCoins · November 25, 2008 12:15AM

Trust is essential in this business, and reputation is everything. I've had more than one transaction here, with no problems, judging others by their record here. Certainly safer than eBay, by a mile.

Longacre · November 25, 2008 12:17AM

I have never dealt with him directly, but I consider him to be an excessively prominent member of these boards. I don't think you will have a problem.

lathmach · November 25, 2008 12:23AM

<< 

<< As long as you dont sent him any early gold you should be fine. >>

What I am contemplating sending is more valualbe than any gold. >>

Oh.
You're sending him your Seated Quarters then?

Ray

CoinJunkie · November 25, 2008 12:27AM

Yes, I have sent him multiple shipments of coins to be photoed. He is a person of the highest integrity, and
very easy to work with. You will have zero problems.

darktone · November 25, 2008 12:37AM

Richard- sorry if I offended you-I meant no ill intentions.

blu62vette · November 25, 2008 12:40AM

I have bought from him and corresponded quite a bit. He was in Santa Clara a different day than me or I would give you the met him face to face compliment. MAybe next time....

I get coins sent to me on trust for photos. Lately it has been amazing what has been sent, I wouldnt worry.

TomB · November 25, 2008 12:47AM

I've had one transaction with Ben and it went smoothly.

BRdude · November 25, 2008 12:58AM

<< If its worth more than the $7.5 million dollar 1933 saint then you might want to use pcgs tru-view >>

Nothing to hide here, just so's yall know, it IS worth more than 7.5 mil.
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Good afternoon Capt Dean,
The coins and patches were, in fact, from the memorial ceremony. At the
end of the ceremony, various Soldier from the Multi-National Forces Iraq
stopped at CPL Thompson memorial to pay their respects. It was at that
time that numerous military personnel removed their own patch from their
uniform or gifted their personal coin (out of respect) to CPL Thompson.
Please relay to his father that was due to the amount of respect that
CPL Thompson received from his leaders, and peers. He was a phenomenal
young man and warrior that was genuinely loved by all.

Regards,

CSM Anthony Simms
Command Sergeant Major
Task Force Joker
2-149th GSAB
DSN: 483-2605
S-VOIP: 242-9647

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean, Bradley C CPT NG NG NGB
[mailto:bradley.carl.dean@us.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:16 PM
To: Simms, Anthony CSM TF-34 2-149 BN CSM
Subject: CPL Thompson

CSM Simms,

My name is Cpt Dean and I am the Casualty Assistance Officer for CPL
Mike Thompson. I first want to say thank you for all of your support
during this time. I saw that you had sent CPL Thompson's father (Kory
Thompson) a box with coins, patches, etc. The father wanted to know if
these items where from the ceremony that was held in Iraq or just coins
and patches from friends etc.... Any light you can shed on this would be
great and I appreciate you and your men! Keep you heads down and come
home safe!

Sincerely,
CT Brad Dean
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

I can't read this without tearing up

UtahCoin · November 25, 2008 1:10AM

I've seen his picture hanging in the Post Office, nice profile shot....

Seriously, good guy, not to worry.

thezookrew · November 25, 2008 1:11AM

Definitely worth more than $7.5 mil in my book.

Perry

edited to add: (Sgt, MI Branch, US Army, Ret.)

dan8402 · November 25, 2008 1:25AM

I would have to believe that the mail would be the weakest ,ink in this equation, not Becoka, especially this time of year. Even insuring for a high monetary value couldn't replace something like that if lost or stolen in the mail.

SpaceMonkey · November 25, 2008 1:28AM

have done business with... purchases a few of his well selected indian Gold pieces... class act all the way.

-sm

BRdude · November 25, 2008 1:29AM

<< would have to believe that the mail would be the weakest ,ink in this equation, not Becoka, especially this time of year. Even insuring for a high monetary value couldn't replace something like that if lost or stolen in the mail. >>

I AM worried about that also...

CertifiedGoldCoins · November 25, 2008 2:06AM

<< Even insuring for a high monetary value couldn't replace something like that if lost or stolen in the mail. >>

Registered Mail (within the U.S.) is never "lost or stolen," because everyone who handles it signs for it, every step of the way.

blu62vette · November 25, 2008 2:12AM

<< 

<< would have to believe that the mail would be the weakest ,ink in this equation, not Becoka, especially this time of year. Even insuring for a high monetary value couldn't replace something like that if lost or stolen in the mail. >>

I AM worried about that also... >>

Your real worry is shipping, dont worry about Ben. I dont know if your concern is insurance dollars, I know these items have much much more than any $$ value. So maybe consider a fed ex overnight, coordinate with Ben to know when he is home to sign. To me sometimes the less travel time the better. I feel better knowing it is there next morning than waiting.

Also check with Ben and see if you guys will be at the same show anytime soon. I have brought back many customer coins the past several shows. Shipping only one way, is safer than both ways.

Cladiator · November 25, 2008 2:16AM

USPS sucks. A package like that is priceless. I'd drive it to him myself and make a short vacation out of it.

darktone · November 25, 2008 2:48AM

<< USPS sucks. A package like that is priceless. I'd drive it to him myself and make a short vacation out of it. >>

WTCG · November 25, 2008 3:24AM

He's fine to deal with, and besides I am within driving distance to him.

BRdude · November 25, 2008 3:29AM

<< USPS sucks. A package like that is priceless. I'd drive it to him myself and make a short vacation out of it. >>

Short?? Okla to Calif?? I get tired just thinking aobut it

robec · November 25, 2008 3:40AM

Ben is a class act all the way. Believe me, he is the absolute least of your worries. I've used Registered mail hundreds of times without a hitch, with the exception of the time it takes and their tracking system. The package is under lock and key every step of the way. I've also used FedEx overnight with a 100% success rate. Their tracking system is A+ and Ben would receive the package within 24 hours.

ChrisRx · November 25, 2008 4:03AM

<< He's fine to deal with, and besides I am within driving distance to him. >>

Same here. We'll KICK HIS BUTT!!!

BRdude · November 25, 2008 4:24AM

if Ben would like, I can include a CD of the service in Balad. (or if someone knows how to post it I would send it to them to be posted) I wish I knew how to put it online but not sure how to do it. I actually have 3 CD's, one of mixed pics of varying ages that showed during the visitation, all to his music, one of only military pics throughout his career that the funeral home made for me out of pics we had put on a board, and the one of the service in Balad. The Army also made one of the service at his High School, but I haven't gotten ahold of one yet

ressikanflute · November 25, 2008 5:50AM

If it bothers you that much... Why are you choosing a forum member over PCGS?

I can't imagine the cost being that far out of whack. Even if it were, why be so cheap with a rarity?

Is this his day job or is it moonlighting and sharing/enjoying a great hobby? Is he insured? Are the coins left unguarded if he has a day job?

I love photographing weddings, but do it under the wing of a professional who is paid to assume great responsibilities.

BRdude · November 25, 2008 7:10AM

>>If it bothers you that much... Why are you choosing a forum member over PCGS?<<
I only want them photographed, not certified

risk is the same during shipping with either, the rest is "personal service" besides, i never thought of it.

cinman14 · November 25, 2008 7:32AM

<< 

<< USPS sucks. A package like that is priceless. I'd drive it to him myself and make a short vacation out of it. >>

Short?? Okla to Calif?? I get tired just thinking aobut it

>>

I'm in Tulsa.... I checked Expedia. And a flight from Okc to La would only run 261.00 with a 2 day layover..
For the package you described the USPS would not touch it.. Enjoy your trip...

I thought Becoka was a girl....

1 Ticket / Roundtrip
OKC Oklahoma City to
LAX Los Angeles
Leave: Mon 15-Dec
Return: Wed 17-Dec
1 adult $213.51
Taxes & Fees $47.49
Total $261.00

pennyannie · November 25, 2008 7:33AM

I am going to go against all on here. I have no doubt that Beokcha is a top notch guy and he will do what ever it takes to safe guard your possessions BUT i would hesitate. Is he liscensed? bonded? Runs a coin store? Where are the coins being shipped? A commerical business? A house?? Are your coins insured? By whom? Who is responsible? In this day and age there are so many what ifs!! This works both ways. How do we know that you (BRdude) are on the up and up?

I know of a few encounters where a company was fine on monday and broke on friday and those that handed over money on thrusday lost it. Things can and do happen.

Sometimes you got to have trust, but computer forums do not always give you the real picture on the other side. There could very well be guys on here that you think have 250k collections that in reality do not own a single coin.

Would i send coins to most of the regulars on here? After all i typed? Yes probably. Is it the smartest thing to do? Probably not, but i hate to always be doom and gloom.

Lasvegasteddy sent me a 1000 dollar coin with no clear payment plan when i was fairly new on here. I am grateful for guys like this. Had something happened once i recieved the coin (lose a job, accident or whatever) i would have gone hungry before i stiffed a guy like this. Lose a job was a bad example since i have not had a real one in over 20 years.

I would try to find a local guy to do the same service if at all possible. I try to control as much as possible to minimize the risk.

cinman14 · November 25, 2008 7:43AM

<< There could very well be guys on here that you think have 250k collections that in reality do not own a single coin. >>

Bear · November 25, 2008 8:48AM

Now if you asked for my references:

Smokey The Bear
Ted E. Bear
Yogi Bear
Griz Lee Bear
Honey Bear
Poo Bear
Bart The Bear
Russian Bear
Beer Bear

MikeInFL · November 25, 2008 10:56AM

Bear, You forgot the cashier at the Dunkin Donuts.

MikeInFL · November 25, 2008 10:56AM

p.s. back to the topic at hand, I've not heard the first bad thing about BECOKA.

Cam40 · November 25, 2008 11:08AM

oh ya, he used to be on here under a different handle awhile back wasnt he?
i think it was....cob? or coincob....something like that...........

I`M KIDDING!!!
that was an inside joke there ...and probably not a very funny one

Spooly · November 25, 2008 12:50PM

<< oh ya, he used to be on here under a different handle awhile back wasnt he?
i think it was....cob? or coincob....something like that...........

I`M KIDDING!!!
that was an inside joke there ...and probably not a very funny one

>>

Wow that's not even funny!

BRdude · November 25, 2008 12:55PM

and SPOOLY returns!!!!

and no, it wasn't very funny

Cam40 · December 1, 2008 2:38PM

ERIC! Spooly!
Wow! HowDEE! GREAT to see you pop in.

and sorry for the mean little joke BR. you know we go back aways and i was always on your side.

Silverstate · December 1, 2008 5:09PM

<< USPS sucks. A package like that is priceless. I'd drive it to him myself and make a short vacation out of it. >>

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