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1889-CC $, real or fake?

coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
I am not a Morgan dollar guy but this coin looks odd to me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1889-CC-MORGAN-DOLLAR-AU-SLIDER-EXTRAORDINARY-COIN_W0QQitemZ270295203923QQihZ017QQcategoryZ139811QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I sure someone on this board might be able to give a better answer.

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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
    Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Linky

    Fake. Looks like a half-way decent die cast counterfeit. Surfaces are grainy and the date is all wrong.

    Edited to add: And check out his awesome feedback! Avoid this guy like the plague!
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks fake to me too. Hmmmm. 96.8% rating, seller name of honest-bama-dollar-man, how can you go wrong?image
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
    Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Linky

    Fake. Looks like a half-way decent die cast counterfeit. Surfaces are grainy and the date is all wrong. >>



    Yup...it's a chinese fake all right.image
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely fake.
    Although the date and mint mark appear to be the correct style, the whole coin has a cast look.
    The edge reeding doesn't look right either.
  • mnmcoinmnmcoin Posts: 2,165
    I guess I'll go against the grain here...based on the pics the coin looks okay to me...no better than XF though. On the other hand the auction just seems hinky to me...the look of the obverse just doesn't match the reverse. The coloring is completely different along with the wood grain background and then the green on the reverse.

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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    How can you not trust someone with the handle honest-bama-dollar-man?
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,085 ✭✭✭
    Easy fake.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    all his coins are fake all three listing

  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Check his closed auctions.... Link

    He sold 2 1893 S Morgan Dollars
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
    Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Check his closed auctions.... Link

    He sold 2 1893 S Morgan Dollars >>


    1 for $146 and 1 for $2500 (Ouch!)
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Agreed! TOTALLY FAKE!

    I think ALL of us should report him, "en masse"!

    Good going guys. image
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    I don't believe the the obverse and reverse are from the same coin (look at the backgrounds):

    imageimage
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He sold the very same coin last week Link for $1251.
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
    Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
  • How does this guy avoid cc charge backs? Buyers just put the coin in a drawer and forget about it?
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reeding looks wrong. Cast fake.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The obverse looks sort of real, although the 9 in the date looks goofy.

    The reverse, however, looks completely bogus.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,759 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He sold the very same coin last week Link for $1251. >>



    Yep, fake and that's why he's trying to sell it again! Got it returned or knows it's coming back.
    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Well, I sent him an e-mail asking if he would certify it before I sent him money. His (her?) response was: "If I were to get it certified then I would keep it." I say her because the name in the e-mail is "Amy." And yes, I noticed that the coin was previously. The jerk off is just selling cast counterfeits. Let the reporting begin!

    Edited to add: The auction's been pulled. Nice.
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    HAHAHA. Her response: "well if that is all you have better to do than put me in the forums i will take the coin off and i am just going by what the coin place told me and i will list it as a copy." So we have a forum member/lurker selling fakes on eBay....not cool.
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    << The auction's been pulled.>>

    Ha! More like ..

    The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing.

    Yeah - talk about an "error"!

    I wonder if he/ she felt the heat?

    Ebay should be alerted & this individual put on the watched list!

    Ebay initiating making future buyers' IDs private, while certainly meaning
    well for Privacy purposes, will only make it that much easier for sellers to screw
    people over thereby making it impossible (in cases such as this) to alert past
    buyers that they've been had and to take action against such predators.

    Stuff like this is criminal in the truest sense of the word and such sellers
    should be prosecuted to the fullest extent allowable by Law!
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Chat Board Lingo

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    The 1921-D "1921-D MORGAN DOLLAR ULTRA GEM CAMEO DMPL+++ " looks like a real coin which has been heavily polished IMO.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Hmmm! Really, I see what appears to be a smooth 3rd side!image

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