As much as I want to believe there is a 'shortage' of physical, I just think it's because the sellers of physical right now (be it coin dealers or bullion dealers) purchased so much of it when the prices were much higher, that they just can't afford to take the loss and sell it at the present day prices.
I don't dispute the fact that currently there is a large disconnect in prices between the 'paper' and 'physical' prices, I just don't think a shortage of the physical is the main reason for it.
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
If money was not an object, you could come here in my area and load up over 300 Oz of silver in 10 oz size or less with no problems. People have it, its just high as all he11 becuase they are in it too high! Gold the same thing, although not as much quantity due to $ value
My question is what is an MS62 1927 Saint going for? Either by dealer or on Ebay and Teletrade. If ever there was a generic Saint, that would be one of them. Does anyone know the answer to this as I think that would provide some insight as to the state of the market.
Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
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American eagles - silver - $6-$7 over spot
Krugerrands - $60 bucks over
The real premiums are in generic US Gold $5's, $10's, $20's about $150-$200 over spot for junk
The reason - no physical gold in any real quantity available.
The prices quoted are for the paper market.
I also heard some silver buyers buying MINI contracts on the COMEX and wanting to "stand for delivery" at expiration......that will be fun....
<< <i>American eagles - gold - $80 bucks + over spot
American eagles - silver - $6-$7 over spot
Krugerrands - $60 bucks over
The real premiums are in generic US Gold $5's, $10's, $20's about $150-$200 over spot for junk
The reason - no physical gold in any real quantity available.
The prices quoted are for the paper market.
I also heard some silver buyers buying MINI contracts on the COMEX and wanting to "stand for delivery" at expiration......that will be fun.... >>
Yes, it will be interesting if buyers start taking delivery.
I don't dispute the fact that currently there is a large disconnect in prices between the 'paper' and 'physical' prices, I just don't think a shortage of the physical is the main reason for it.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
In another thread I posted the same thing:
If money was not an object, you could come here in my area and load up over 300 Oz of silver in 10 oz size or less with no problems. People have it, its just high as all he11 becuase they are in it too high! Gold the same thing, although not as much quantity due to $ value
jim
<< <i>2006 and 2007 PR70DCAM First Strike Buffalos, $1300-1800 over spot. Some PR70 $100 platinums would beat that though. --Jerry >>
Those are graded coins and the premiums are numismatic ... for people who want PCGS PR70DCAM pieces.
If you are holding and not selling........that means there is a "shortage" in the market.
Did I miss something?
Will the STRONG hands get weak?
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Will the STRONG hands get weak? >>
A very good question. Who knows what new unpleasant surprises are out there?
We all know the paper market is being sold short heavily by the Bullion Banks.....it is quite evident by the charts.....
Why is it so hard to believe when it happens to PM's, but everyone cries bloody murder when it is a financial stock that they own?