Think about it. What is a collector who finds himself having trouble paying the mortgage going to sell first, his main collection or his rolls of hoarded 1909-S VDB cents?
Hoarding of key and semi-key coins has been going on for the past twenty years or so. There are plenty of hoards out there waiting to be disbursed. With the economy the way it is the hoarders may actually have to sell the hoarded coins while they are still living!
Get in the back of the line, Wnuck, I have first dibs on the 291fifth hoard.
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
Large quantities of key dates like 1856 & 1877 cents, 09s-vdb's, 55/55, 1885 and 1886 Lib nickels, 16-d dimes, 1796, 1901-s and 1916 quarters, 1794, 1796, 1801, 1802 halves, 1889-cc and 93-s Morgans, to name but a few, have been stuffed into major auctions for the past 2 years. The smart money has already dumped their hoards.
<< <i>Large quantities of key dates like 1856 & 1877 cents, 09s-vdb's, 55/55, 1885 and 1886 Lib nickels, 16-d dimes, 1796, 1901-s and 1916 quarters, 1794, 1796, 1801, 1802 halves, 1889-cc and 93-s Morgans, to name but a few, have been stuffed into major auctions for the past 2 years. The smart money has already dumped their hoards.
roadrunner >>
I've noticed that trend for a while as well. Check out Heritage's current auction listings on eBay, between the internet only and Signature sales you can put together most of a grading set of 1922 No D and 1955 doubled die cents.
Honestly, as I'm finally digging in for a long-overdue trimming back of my holdings, it is the key dates that I'm holding onto, along with the core collection. Maybe I'm just lucky that I have enough stuff extraneous to my core collection that I don't mind parting with can do that.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
I think some of you are underestimating just how many key and semi-key coins have been hoarded. The number offered at auction over the past couple of years is only a small fraction of the total available.
Just think of all the 1913-S barber dimes that have been hoarded as a result of years worth of mentions in a Numismatic News column.
What about common date "cc" seated dimes? Just think of how many of those are out there.
1)Key Date hoards ... that sounds like a unicorn. I'll believe it when I see it. Edit to add : 2) Godless dollars and High/Low Leaf coins do not count. In addition, I have available 80 Mint State, 2000 Wide AM cents at the Panic Price of $50 each. 3) A generation of collectors is getting up in years. These guys know when it's time to trim non-essentials in their lives. Many collectible coins may show up, and when they do, collectors will score !
These hoards that have been held for the past 20 years or so have had many other excuses/times to have parted with them. Coins will always change hands as will all other collectibles. More in trying times of course. I guess my point is that this is not the first time, nor will it be the last time the sky is falling.
I think the pointis valid; if we have a recession there will be individuals hurt by it. Some of them may well have hoards of key dates since there are, in aggregate, numerous hoards of different key dates.
If there's a recession it will be interesting to see how this af- fects the more numerous and widely dispersed common coins like low grade buffalos and modern mint sets. My guess is that the more widely collected areas may be less affected than spe- cific hoard coins.
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Well, try the BST first so we get first shot!
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<< <i>You heard it here first!
Well, try the BST first so we get first shot! >>
Not from me. I have no such hoards.
Think about it. What is a collector who finds himself having trouble paying the mortgage going to sell first, his main collection or his rolls of hoarded 1909-S VDB cents?
Hoarding of key and semi-key coins has been going on for the past twenty years or so. There are plenty of hoards out there waiting to be disbursed. With the economy the way it is the hoarders may actually have to sell the hoarded coins while they are still living!
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<< <i>You heard it here first!
Well, try the BST first so we get first shot! >>
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<< <i>What key dates are you selling? >>
Get in the back of the line, Wnuck, I have first dibs on the 291fifth hoard.
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
roadrunner
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<< <i>What key dates are you selling? >>
Get in the back of the line, Wnuck, I have first dibs on the 291fifth hoard.
Drat! Bested by Mr. Longacre once again.
OK -- how about this: you get first dibs on the first 100 pieces in the hoard.
I'll get first shot on the 2nd 100, and we'll alternate until the hoard is exhausted. Deal?
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<< <i>What key dates are you selling? >>
Get in the back of the line, Wnuck, I have first dibs on the 291fifth hoard.
Sounds like an urban legend to me.
<< <i>Large quantities of key dates like 1856 & 1877 cents, 09s-vdb's, 55/55, 1885 and 1886 Lib nickels, 16-d dimes, 1796, 1901-s and 1916 quarters, 1794, 1796, 1801, 1802 halves, 1889-cc and 93-s Morgans, to name but a few, have been stuffed into major auctions for the past 2 years. The smart money has already dumped their hoards.
roadrunner >>
I've noticed that trend for a while as well. Check out Heritage's current auction listings on eBay, between the internet only and Signature sales you can put together most of a grading set of 1922 No D and 1955 doubled die cents.
Honestly, as I'm finally digging in for a long-overdue trimming back of my holdings, it is the key dates that I'm holding onto, along with the core collection. Maybe I'm just lucky that I have enough stuff extraneous to my core collection that I don't mind parting with can do that.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
From last year till now, I've never seen so many key dates and super high grade coins up for auction.
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rolls of 1950-d Jefferson's ???.............................
Dan
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What will people sell first?......the coins that have held up and are still worth near 100%.
roadrunner
Just think of all the 1913-S barber dimes that have been hoarded as a result of years worth of mentions in a Numismatic News column.
What about common date "cc" seated dimes? Just think of how many of those are out there.
Of course they would rather wait and sell them after they died,eh, 291fifth?
Maybe to the devil?
Ray
Edit to add :
2) Godless dollars and High/Low Leaf coins do not count. In addition, I have available 80 Mint State, 2000 Wide AM cents at the Panic Price of $50 each.
3) A generation of collectors is getting up in years. These guys know when it's time to trim non-essentials in their lives. Many collectible coins may show up, and when they do, collectors will score !
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This is not to say that some nice common key dates won't be coming up but certainly nothing or real significance.
The name is LEE!
Coins will always change hands as will all other collectibles. More in trying times of course. I guess my point is that this is not the first time, nor will it be the last time the sky is falling.
individuals hurt by it. Some of them may well have hoards of
key dates since there are, in aggregate, numerous hoards
of different key dates.
If there's a recession it will be interesting to see how this af-
fects the more numerous and widely dispersed common coins
like low grade buffalos and modern mint sets. My guess is that
the more widely collected areas may be less affected than spe-
cific hoard coins.
- Jim
<< <i>Who can afford to hoard expensive key dates? I suddenly feel very poor right now.
Only the ones who hoarded before they became "key dates".....
95-W proof ASE comes to mind...