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dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
I don't know how you guys feel on this and flame me if you'd like, but this annoys the crap out of me...especially how's it's phrased: "There will be a 3% fee for using Paypal as it is for your ease and convienence of use not mine."
Paypal is, IMHO, convenient for both buyers AND sellers, but this guy thinks otherwise. Is charging buyers to use Paypal even allowed on eBay?

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  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    Report him to Paypal as this is against their rules/regulations.
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Report him to Paypal as this is against their rules/regulations. >>


    I just chatted live with an eBay representative and OF COURSE, she didn't know the answer. So I sent eBay's trust and safety department an e-mail. I will e-mail Paypal too I suppose.

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  • It is not allowed. They will pull the ad.
  • It doesn't bother me that much. No one is forced to buy it and the guy is just trying to recoup his fees. Everyone accounts for paypal, most are just smart enough to build it into their pricing so the auction doesn't get nuked. If the BIN + 3% is to much - go to the next one.
  • The guy is selling bullion and the margin is small.

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why not point out all the BST listings that say Paypal 3% extra. I believe that is against the Paypal "Rules." There are other ways to do it, but I've sure seen a lot of listings saying 3% extra. image
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I don't have a problem with it.

    You can either charge the higher price that includes paypal fees or offer a lower price if you pay cash. I just like the security of paying with a credit card and would choose to pay the 3% if it was a dealer I don't know.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    It annoys me because of how it's phrased. Like he's doing me a big damn favor for taking Paypal.
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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Paypal is, IMHO, convenient for both buyers AND sellers, but this guy thinks otherwise. >>

    He's not the only one who thinks otherwise. IMHO, as a seller, PayPal is not convenient for me. I would prefer to receive checks or money orders.

    << <i>but this annoys the crap out of me... >>

    Newsflash- if you're buying something from a business- any business- you're paying towards *all* the business's expenses. Even the ones they don't tell you about. image
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    <<<a 3% fee for using Paypal as it is for your ease and convienence of use not mine.>>>

    An added extra & instant 3% is NOT a convienence for a weasel coin dealer???
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would prefer to receive checks or money orders. >>


    And get fewer bids. I'd love to receive checks and money orders only too, but I've come to realize that I get more bids when I offer Paypal which many times offsets the Paypal fee and more.

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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've come to realize that I get more bids when I offer Paypal which many times offsets the Paypal fee and more. >>

    Offering multiple payment options is a convenience for the buyer, is it not? I could offer to accept live chickens and maybe get an additional bid every so often, but that doesn't necessarily mean that being paid in live chickens is a convenience for me, does it? image
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is against eBay/PayPal rules. Report it.
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If he had a noodle in his mellon he'd just take 3% of the expected retail value and add that to his shipping costs. Keep his mouth shut and not have anyone getting upset with him.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,262 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If he had a noodle in his mellon he'd just take 3% of the expected retail value and add that to his shipping costs. Keep his mouth shut and not have anyone getting upset with him. >>



    What - and have to endure all the 'what a ripoff shipping charge' threads on this forum? The horror! image
  • If one were to use the BIN feature, would ebay hold him to the BIN price, or just cancel the auction?
  • jgrinzjgrinz Posts: 985 ✭✭✭
    It IS against policy and I have reported him image
    Feel free
    to do it too

    Report Category
    Listing Violations

    Reason for Report
    Listing Policy Violations

    Detailed Reason
    Circumvention of Ebay Fees

    Additional Information
    Charges associated with offered payment methods (Paypal)
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for clarifying, JGrinz. I've reported him too, but he's a Powerseller, so I wonder if they'll do anything.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is indeed against eBay policy.

    That being said, I do not think it is an unreasonable request. As a seller, I usually prefer to assume the PayPal fees as a courtesy to my bidders/buyers, but when one gets over a certain price level, even that 3% bite begins to itch and sometimes sting a little.

    I agree that it is much more convenient for BOTH buyers and sellers, but if this guy finds it inconvenient for him personally, that's his personal opinion and perfectly valid.

    He'd better play by the rules on eBay, though. He should just tack 3% of the estimated value onto his opening bid.

    Now if he were here, on BST, and asked the 3%, I would not begrudge that. As a seller, he's got a right to prefer certain payment methods over others.

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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Now if he were here, on BST, and asked the 3%, I would not begrudge that. As a seller, he's got a right to prefer certain payment methods over others. >>


    I agree...no big deal on the BST. We're all friends here.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    < If he had a noodle in his mellon he'd just take 3% of the expected retail value and add that to his shipping costs. Keep his mouth shut and not have anyone getting upset with him. >




    He is asking to be negged.


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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    What I don't get is if it violates the merchant agreement to charge extra for credit card (or Paypal) use, why is it that certain entities can charge a 2-3% "convenience fee" for paying by credit card?

    For example, the State of Pennsylvania allows taxes and tuition at Penn State to be paid online by CC, but they tack on the 2-3% fee.
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>It annoys me because of how it's phrased. Like he's doing me a big damn favor for taking Paypal. >>



    You are a real hoot DOH!! It seems if someone's grammar isn't written in a way that the mass behind your eye sockets reads it that person is not worthy to do anything in your world.image

    Why don't you do some Pro Bono charity work somewhere and lay off of people. Geeze! JMHO.image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>but he's a Powerseller, so I wonder if they'll do anything. >>



    Amazingly enough, the fact that he's a Power Screwer doesn't amount to a hill of beans. He'll still get popped. BUT, it has to be a T&S drone that has a clue.

    Russ, NCNE
  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489
    I can tell you this.... When I am selling 90% or .999 bullion close to melt. I am not going to eat 3% for
    PayPal... I already cover the shipping in my price.. I guess it's the same as my B@M shop not taking
    credit/debit cards for bullion purchases...

    My local B@M deals in cash only... CC's are not even an option on bullion sales...

    You always have the option to MOVE ON to teh next listing if you don't like his terms.

    I would rather have a seller be honest up front. Rather than bury the expected charges into shipping.

    If paypal thinks it is such a great deal for both parties. Then maybe all Ebay sales should split the fees.

    1.5% for both the seller and the buyer.... It happens at any other auction house... Heritage, TeleTrade to name
    a few... They both add juice on both sides from what I have seen on the boards...

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My local B@M deals in cash only...... >>



    Sounds like he is avoiding paying income taxes and sales taxes. I wonder how he would do in a tax audit.

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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You guys crack me up pissing and moaning all the time about this small stuff.

    ....over the last week there have been like a dozen threads complaining about Ebay, FleaBay, FeeBay, EPay....yet everybody keeps buying and selling there....??........of course you do because it's the biggest and most accessible market place.....so take a little bit of the bad with the considerable good and shut up already!



  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489


    << <i>You guys crack me up pissing and moaning all the time about this small stuff.

    ....over the last week there have been like a dozen threads complaining about Ebay, FleaBay, FeeBay, EPay....yet everybody keeps buying and selling there....??........of course you do because it's the biggest and most accessible market place.....so take a little bit of the bad with the considerable good and shut up already! >>



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  • He must have fixed it because I don't see anything about an extra charge for PayPal?
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You guys crack me up pissing and moaning all the time about this small stuff. >>



    Hey, this is nearly a 30 post thread. Seems like it was entertaining for people to chime in on, yourself included. And now the seller changed his auction to comply with eBay rules. So I guess all I can say to you is you're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed reading my thread and adding to it.

    Also, I'm not complaining about eBay in any way shape or form. I'm fine with eBay....I'm annoyed with idiot sellers.

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  • << <i>You guys crack me up pissing and moaning all the time about this small stuff.

    ....over the last week there have been like a dozen threads complaining about Ebay, FleaBay, FeeBay, EPay....yet everybody keeps buying and selling there....??........of course you do because it's the biggest and most accessible market place.....so take a little bit of the bad with the considerable good and shut up already! >>



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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's hunting season. Be happy!!!

    I've got the perfect deer costume for you. Though I suspect that you'd have too much fat to make tasty steaks. image




  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,625 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A thread like this just isn't complete without TavernTreasures coming to complain about ebay and the little narquers image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>

    << <i>You guys crack me up pissing and moaning all the time about this small stuff.

    ....over the last week there have been like a dozen threads complaining about Ebay, FleaBay, FeeBay, EPay....yet everybody keeps buying and selling there....??........of course you do because it's the biggest and most accessible market place.....so take a little bit of the bad with the considerable good and shut up already! >>



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  • TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A thread like this just isn't complete without TavernTreasures coming to complain about ebay and the little narquers image >>



    When I see threads like this where some forum members (AKA Ebay police) gleefully rat someone out, I just think to myself: "Here they go again".




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  • BXBOY143BXBOY143 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭


    << <i>I don't know how you guys feel on this and flame me if you'd like, but this annoys the crap out of me...especially how's it's phrased: "There will be a 3% fee for using Paypal as it is for your ease and convienence of use not mine."
    Paypal is, IMHO, convenient for both buyers AND sellers, but this guy thinks otherwise. Is charging buyers to use Paypal even allowed on eBay?

    Link to auction >>




    I MUST BE BLIND or not reading someting i cant see, no where in the auction link you gave does it state what you are claiming.....image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't know how you guys feel on this and flame me if you'd like, but this annoys the crap out of me...especially how's it's phrased: "There will be a 3% fee for using Paypal as it is for your ease and convienence of use not mine."
    Paypal is, IMHO, convenient for both buyers AND sellers, but this guy thinks otherwise. Is charging buyers to use Paypal even allowed on eBay?

    Link to auction >>




    I MUST BE BLIND or not reading someting i cant see, no where in the auction link you gave does it state what you are claiming.....image >>



    Is it possible he saw this thread and deleted it?




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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I MUST BE BLIND or not reading someting i cant see, no where in the auction link you gave does it state what you are claiming..... >>


    Correct, the seller changed it. Either he read this thread or eBay told him to. Either way, works for me.
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  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭


    << <i>Report him to Paypal as this is against their rules/regulations. >>



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