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let's see how close they may have gotten.......


ICCS is known for generally being incredibly conservative, often much moreso than either PCGS or NGC. Let's see if we think they got this one right, or are being their typical
EAC-ish shrewdness for grading compared to what we're used to.

what grade would you assign this one?


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  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    Obverse shows flatness on forehead curls, and slight discoloration (rub) on tip of coronet.
    Reverse looks unc.


    I grade the piece AU58....possibly 55
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,322 ✭✭✭✭
    au53, conservative as par for them

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I'm also AU-53 for this piece. Strong for an AU-53, but not worthy of AU-55.

    I bet ICCS had something like EF-45, but I don't know their grading style so I'm completely clueless.
  • AU55
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    61 or 62

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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508

    in their usual ultra-conservative fashion, here are the results..................




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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There is too much coin for it to be less than AU. My view is the same as gecko's on this one.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>in their usual ultra-conservative fashion, here are the results..................

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    Well, let me say I will send nothing to ICCS, BUT, I would be a strong buyer if that's the way they grade everthing.
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was trying to be really strict and gave it a 50.Are they still in business?
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think its an AU53. I would like to see their idea of a PO-01!
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    XF-40?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,065 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>XF-40?

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    Yup. I guess they can't grade using current industry standards. Maybe their strategy is to discourage people from submitting US coins.



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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>I was trying to be really strict and gave it a 50.Are they still in business? >>




    yes they are, and are very well respected in general.
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


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    << <i>XF-40?

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    Yup. I guess they can't grade using current industry standards. >>



    I don't think that coin would be an EF40 using any standards ever applied to grading. There's conservative grading and just flat out mis-grading. This is an example of the latter.
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  • MillerJWMillerJW Posts: 649 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>XF-40?

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    Yup. I guess they can't grade using current industry standards. >>



    I don't think that coin would be an EF40 using any standards ever applied to grading. There's conservative grading and just flat out mis-grading. This is an example of the latter. >>



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,065 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I was trying to be really strict and gave it a 50.Are they still in business? >>



    yes they are, and are very well respected in general. >>



    If they are so successful, why are the still using flips instead of real slabs? I can not see much repeat business when they grossly undergrade coins such as this one.


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  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I was trying to be really strict and gave it a 50.Are they still in business? >>



    yes they are, and are very well respected in general. >>



    If they are so successful, why are the still using flips instead of real slabs? I can not see much repeat business when they grossly undergrade coins such as this one. >>



    They're still in business and thriving. They don't even have a website.
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    i luv iccs grading, which reflects international grading. even then, they were only a little conservative on this coin. i would of guessed xf-45. by u.s. slabing standards, it's probably ms-something.

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