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What do I do with Paypal...got a card with tampered case...help!
jeff8877
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Hello everyone,
I got a card in the mail today that clearly has a case that has been tampered with. Total price paid with shipping and insurance was $292. Card was sent with insurance and delivery confirmation.
Seller has lousy feedback...probably should not have bought the card. What is my best approach relative to paypal for making a paypal claim to have money refunded and return card to sender. I do not want to send card back first without money.
Thanks to all in advance
Jeff
I got a card in the mail today that clearly has a case that has been tampered with. Total price paid with shipping and insurance was $292. Card was sent with insurance and delivery confirmation.
Seller has lousy feedback...probably should not have bought the card. What is my best approach relative to paypal for making a paypal claim to have money refunded and return card to sender. I do not want to send card back first without money.
Thanks to all in advance
Jeff
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You can file a SNAD claim at PayPal.
They will make you send the card back, and then refund your money...
up to the amount of "seller protection" offered.
If the seller has $2K of SP, you get a full refund.
If the seller has $2C of SP, you get $200.00.
If you paid via credit-card, the CC-co will make-up any deficit.
Steve
also, I would (well maybe) contact the seller first.
Steve
may claim it was damaged in shipping.
That changes nothing in terms of the SNAD claim.
Do not send card back until told to by paypal. and when you do send insured and with signature conformation.
check on this as value is over $250......there might be a paypal requirement beyond delivery confirmation.
First inform seller your intentions. He might just want to skip all the mess.
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Scan the thing so we can see it.
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Steve
Jeff
Steve
<< <i>Did not notify seller first >>
Very bad move.
If a buyer filed a claim against me without first trying to contact me and work things out, I would be seriously pissed off and would fight the claim tooth and nail, especially as I usually give refunds with no questions asked.
No matter what the seller's previous feedback, you should always notify them when you are dissatified with a purchase and see how they respond.
Even after speaking with the guy you could have done that.
Steve
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<< <i>Did not notify seller first >>
Very bad move.
If a buyer filed a claim against me without first trying to contact me and work things out, I would be seriously pissed off and would fight the claim tooth and nail, especially as I usually give refunds with no questions asked.
No matter what the seller's previous feedback, you should always notify them when you are dissatified with a purchase and see how they respond. >>
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That is usually the "academic" advice I give, too.
FIB and I are both good sellers, so we want/deserve a chance to solve
problems.
But, sometimes, the buyer has a "feeling" that trying to deal
with a bad-guy is not worth the trouble.
A slab that has clearly been opened and closed up, is not likely a good-faith mistake.
Steve
<< <i>I'd like to see the auction.
Steve >>
+2
So while I know we have been somewhat conditioned to believe that every seller is a rip-off artist, many mistakes do truly turn out to be innocent. I've bought two cards that turned out to be trimmed recently, and in both cases the sellers gave me a full refund and said that they had not even noticed that the cards were short when listing them.
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Not sure how that can help you.
Steve
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I do not think every seller is bad.
There are MANY more bad buyers than bad sellers.
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When a guy says he can open the slab with his fingernail,
the presumption of "innocent mistake" is on thin ice.
It's not like speaking first was playing his hand.
Either way you can file even if the seller is amicable.
Steve
<< <i>Storm i agree and hear you, but couldn't the buyer file a snad after speaking first with the seller?
It's not like speaking first was playing his hand.
Either way you can file even if the seller is amicable.
Steve >>
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Yup. I would have contacted the seller.
However, the OP had other info that he chose not to post on the tampering issue.
If I was an "ordinary buyer," I might not have wanted to chat-up the seller either.
The OP asked:
"What is my best approach relative to paypal for making a paypal claim to have money refunded and return card to sender."
When a buyer believes he has been defrauded, it is not always helpful to offer, "contact the seller first."
MOST sellers deserve a chance to fix a problem. Maybe not ALL sellers.
<< <i>This thread is worthless without pictures and auction link. >>
I agree. If you're gonna start a thread like this a link and or scan should be provided
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