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TorinoCobra71
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I recently sold a coin on Ebay. The buyer said that they got the coin and were happy with it. They then said they were gonna leave feedback for me and to "Please dont forget to leave feedback for me"
This kind of annoys me. Begging for feedback seems kinds pathetic to me. If you get it, great, if not oh well.......
What say you?
TC71
This kind of annoys me. Begging for feedback seems kinds pathetic to me. If you get it, great, if not oh well.......
What say you?
TC71
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But, as a buyer, I couldn't care less if I get feedback from a seller.
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<< <i>Well I think begging is a prety harsh word to use. And I think most buyers expect positive feedback if they did their end of the deal. Why wouldn't you do this without being asked? >>
Beg/Ask/Require !?!?!? As a buyer, I leave feeback after I get the item and am satisfied with it. As a seller I leave feedback when the buyer is happy that the transaction has concluded to their utmost satisfaction.
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<< <i>Why wouldn't you do this without being asked? >>
I usually leave feedback wether I am asked to or not.
person 1 puts an item up for bid on eBay and person 2 bids and wins item then pays person 1. person 1 leaves feedback that person 2 has paid for item. then when person 2 receives the item they leave feedback to person 1 telling how they fell about the transaction.
But the seller uses the excuss about leaving feedbak to last when the buyer gets item and leaves feedback because they are afraid that the buyer was stiffed in some way and leave bad feedback. to much shipping, the item not as good as said in sale, etc.
I myself, both sale and buy and I leave feedback when my part is done. If you have a problem first try to talk it out with the other person before leaving bad feedback. That is all one can do.
If you don't stiff you want be stiffed.
<< <i>the right way that feedback was developed to be used was;
person 1 puts an item up for bid on eBay and person 2 bids and wins item then pays person 1. person 1 leaves feedback that person 2 has paid for item. then when person 2 receives the item they leave feedback to person 1 telling how they fell about the transaction.
But the seller uses the excuss about leaving feedbak to last when the buyer gets item and leaves feedback because they are afraid that the buyer was stiffed in some way and leave bad feedback. to much shipping, the item not as good as said in sale, etc.
I myself, both sale and buy and I leave feedback when my part is done. If you have a problem first try to talk it out with the other person before leaving bad feedback. That is all one can do.
If you don't stiff you want be stiffed. >>
In YOUR Opinion, that is how it is supposed to work. You do it your way and I will do it mine. EOM
or some such message...and I always leave feedback once the item has been received;
if the item is being returned [ its only happened twice in 5+ years ] I hold back feedback
until my PayPal account [ or refund] has been credited.
I see nothing wrong in asking for feedback - so as to clear up the transaction.
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<< <i>I recently sold a coin on Ebay. The buyer said that they got the coin and were happy with it. They then said they were gonna leave feedback for me and to "Please dont forget to leave feedback for me"
This kind of annoys me. Begging for feedback seems kinds pathetic to me. If you get it, great, if not oh well.......
What say you?
TC71 >>
That doesn't sound like "begging" to me. Just a friendly reminder to do unto others as they do unto you.
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<< <i>This kind of annoys me. Begging for feedback seems kinds pathetic to me. >>
I dare say that this is not something that is worth getting annoyed about.
<< <i>the right way that feedback was developed to be used was;
person 1 puts an item up for bid on eBay and person 2 bids and wins item then pays person 1. person 1 leaves feedback that person 2 has paid for item. then when person 2 receives the item they leave feedback to person 1 telling how they fell about the transaction.
But the seller uses the excuss about leaving feedbak to last when the buyer gets item and leaves feedback because they are afraid that the buyer was stiffed in some way and leave bad feedback. to much shipping, the item not as good as said in sale, etc.
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We can explain it to you but we can't understand it for you.
Rob
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Maybe the weather has you on edge
I don't think, the way it is phrased, he was begging. Just a friendly reminder is all it looks like.
Soemthing to think about...you do things the right way....maybe he has had a lot of other sellers who didn't....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I leave my feedback in batches, every few days. This week I had a buyer leave me feedback, and then send an email telling me he did, and asking me to do the same. The next day he sent me another email asking for feedback. That's begging IMO, and it's pretty pathetic.
need to assemble feedback quickly.
Under the current FB-scheme, there is NO reason for sellers not to leave FB upon payment.
Sellers cannot NEG bad-buyers, and buyers who are angry about not getting FB can NEG
sellers.
Auctiva can be set-up to leave auto-FB upon payment. Convenient.
<< <i>I see no problem with the buyer's actions. >>
Ditto here
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I've never asked for positive feedack when selling an item. That is just an open invitation for a neg from some psyho.
<< <i>I recently sold a coin on Ebay. The buyer said that they got the coin and were happy with it. They then said they were gonna leave feedback for me and to "Please dont forget to leave feedback for me"
This kind of annoys me. Begging for feedback seems kinds pathetic to me. If you get it, great, if not oh well.......
What say you?
TC71 >>
We need a "Whiners Forum."
I've never even mentioned feedback to my buyers & sellers.
I notice that my feedback number changes but I never check it to see who left it or what they said cause I simply don't care cause I know I'm a good guy and treat people right.
I do leave feedback but it's at MY conveince and it might take a week or 2 or even a month because I like to leave feedback for multiple deals at once instead of going through the hassel every time I make a single transaction.
Funny thing, I had a problem with a seller on eBay Motors several months ago that filed 2 bogus non-payment disputes against me and we cussed, fussed and bullied & threatened each other like real men and the subject of bad feedback never even came up.
Feedback beggers annoy me too.
<< <i>Buyers who plan to be sellers and want to avoid PayPal-holds on their money,
need to assemble feedback quickly.
Under the current FB-scheme, there is NO reason for sellers not to leave FB upon payment.
Sellers cannot NEG bad-buyers, and buyers who are angry about not getting FB can NEG
sellers.
Auctiva can be set-up to leave auto-FB upon payment. Convenient. >>
I leave it after payment but it is incorrect to say that "under the current FB scheme, there is no reason for sellers not to leave FB upon payment".
Imagine, if you will, that you get paid for an auction immediately, you immediately leave + feedback. Now, a day, or so, later, they do a chargeback or try to get paypal to reverse it.
Would you leave + feedback for that? I wouldn't.
So, if you are one of those that seems to attract problem buyers, be careful in leaving feedback too soon
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>i like feedback.i give it and i except to receive in return.
...........did you mean expect and not "except?"
............i didn't want ambro51 to jump on you..
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<< <i>Buyers who plan to be sellers and want to avoid PayPal-holds on their money,
need to assemble feedback quickly.
Under the current FB-scheme, there is NO reason for sellers not to leave FB upon payment.
Sellers cannot NEG bad-buyers, and buyers who are angry about not getting FB can NEG
sellers.
Auctiva can be set-up to leave auto-FB upon payment. Convenient. >>
I leave it after payment but it is incorrect to say that "under the current FB scheme, there is no reason for sellers not to leave FB upon payment".
Imagine, if you will, that you get paid for an auction immediately, you immediately leave + feedback. Now, a day, or so, later, they do a chargeback or try to get paypal to reverse it.
Would you leave + feedback for that? I wouldn't.
So, if you are one of those that seems to attract problem buyers, be careful in leaving feedback too soon
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
Holding your feedback until the buyers leaves one first is what is a bit pathetic. If you are selling honestly described items, why are you afraid to leave feedback when the buyer has met their obligation?
Holding off on posting feedback is an implied threat of retaliation, and is bad business.
merse
<< <i>The seller should leave feedback once payment is received.
Holding your feedback until the buyers leaves one first is what is a bit pathetic. If you are selling honestly described items, why are you afraid to leave feedback when the buyer has met their obligation?
Holding off on posting feedback is an implied threat of retaliation, and is bad business. >>
You haven't sold much of anything on ebay, have you??
Checkout the backhanded "slow shipping" comment I just got, stuck into an otherwise positive feedback.
Wow. Payment to coin received, seven days. Boy, howdy. I'm so slow.
PS- I always try to leave feedback immediately upon receipt of payment.
But since I am so goshdarned slooow
I used to be a feedback beggar in my early eBay days, I am ashamed to admit, until one guy flatly (and a bit brusquely) responded that he had gotten the coin and it was fine and basically asked me to shut up and leave him alone because he never left any feedback, good or bad.
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<< <i>The seller should leave feedback once payment is received.
Holding your feedback until the buyers leaves one first is what is a bit pathetic. If you are selling honestly described items, why are you afraid to leave feedback when the buyer has met their obligation?
Holding off on posting feedback is an implied threat of retaliation, and is bad business. >>
You haven't sold much of anything on ebay, have you??
Many, many thousands of coins with no negative feedback.
merse
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That is ALL a holdover-concept from the "previous FB scheme." There was a mutually-assured
destruction factor that made it safe for sellers to go last; I always DID... for years.
NOW, withholding FB is an invite to a NEG, if you happen to get a psycho-numpty, who
lives for FB.
IF I cannot leave NEGs, it matters not that I leave a POS first.
IF the buyer turns out to be a scamster, I simply leave a professional sounding add-on,
or a response under his NEG.
Read some "game theory" articles to understand the psychology of the new paradigm.
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<< <i>The seller should leave feedback once payment is received.
Holding your feedback until the buyers leaves one first is what is a bit pathetic. If you are selling honestly described items, why are you afraid to leave feedback when the buyer has met their obligation?
Holding off on posting feedback is an implied threat of retaliation, and is bad business. >>
The ignorance of the self-righteous never ceases to amaze me.
abitofthisabitofthat don't take this the wrong way, I used to think the EXACT same way you did. After working with Joe and Jane consumer for the last 20 years, being burned, tempered, burned, tempered and burned again etc. I will never go back to the perception you have. You may see this as harsh but the humorous thing is I still try to give people the benefit of the doubt. But at the same time I look at ebay from a business standpoint. A good business person not only places a value on the sale, they place a value on what it takes to make the sale, retain the sale, retain the client and keep the customer satisfied.
IMHO, it has nothing to do with being AFRAID of leaving feedback and everything to do with keeping the general EBAY public from being MISINFORMED! Let me try to explain this by giving you an example of clients who paid lightning fast but turned into clients from He!!.
I sold a 1943 PCGS MS66 Lincoln Penny about 2 ½ years ago around the Christmas holidays. When I posted this item, the listing explained that it was a 1943-penny. I inserted 3 pictures, 2 pictures were close-ups front and back, and the third was a picture of the front of the slab with the serial # blanked out. The payment arrived within a few hours via Paypal and I sent the coin out the next day. The individual who purchased the coin lived just a few towns over (about 50 Miles) and received it the following day. It was then that I received an email asking where her 1943 “Copper” penny was. Knowing the value of these my heart sank and then jumped in my throat. I wrote her an email back explaining that the auction was for a zinc penny not a copper penny. This set off a fury of about 20 emails back and forth. From there the conversation went something like this:
Buyer: The penny in the picture is copper.
Me: Actually the penny in the picture is Zinc
Buyer: Oh no the penny is copper
Me: Ma’am I only have Zinc pennies from 1943.
Buyer: Well just send me the one in the picture. My son wanted one for Christmas and I had budgeted $20 and I really stretched my budget when I went to $26 including shipping and handling
Me: Ma’am the penny you have was the one from the picture.
Buyer: oh no the penny in the picture definitely copper.
Me: Ma’am I took the picture myself
Buyer: But it looks Copper. Look at the screen shot I sent you
Me: Ma’am on my screen your screen shot looks like a steel penny
Buyer: Well on mine it looks copper.
Me: Actually this is a PCGS certified coin. MS66 is a very high grade for a coin and as far as I know there are less than 20 1943 Copper pennies.
Buyer: Well I just want the one in the picture.
I finally got her to call me. After several more phones calls, I ended up driving 50 miles (one way), meeting her, showing her that the PCGS population report. The MS66 had zero 1943 Copper pennies. In addition, I explained that one of these coins in THAT CONDITION WOULD COST 6 FIGURES IF NOT SEVEN at auction.
After several hours of additional work, hours of discussions, a few long distance calls (yes we are in different area codes) and a 100-mile round trip. I finally replaced the coin and got her an error coin that I was not excited to part with but that was what she wanted for her son. Again I do believe that customer service is the most important thing. But if you think this person deserves positive feedback, then we need to agree to disagree. One other note: This transaction never deteriorated, the communication was always professional and we figured a way to work it out. I personally believe that a transaction like this does not deserve positive feedback. This was NOT A SMOOTH TRANSACTION and I believe that LEAVING POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON A TRANSACTION SUCH AS THIS IS A DISSERVICE TO THE EBAY COMMUNITY, AGAIN JMHO
By the way this scenario or a derivative like it with buyers AFTER THEY PURCHASE is E Pluribus Unum.
Again, I feel that giving feedback right away to buyers such as these would create misinformation about the way they conduct business on the Bay. It’s not about being Pathetic, it’s not about being afraid, it’s not about being vindictive. It’s about doing what is right and not misinforming the ebay community by leaving feedback too quickly regarding a client who appears problem free initially and then turns into the client from He!! For reasons that I couldn't plan for in almost any scenario. By the way, you may ask my colleagues, I have been told by many I am the type of person who imagines quite a bit when it comes to odd scenarios.
In summation, it will take one hell of a paradigm shift to change my opinion on this issue.
I will step down from my soapbox now.
Rob
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<< <i>If he is desperate for feedback, leave him a NEG with "Here's your feedback. Happy now?" >>
You are bad Perry. Now that's not how you treat a lady.
Goodbye, goodbye, good friends goodbye....
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