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There actually is a machine that separates copper cents from Zincolns

krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
I'm not plugging it, just very surprised that someone had developed a machine to separate copper cents from copper-plated zinc cents. Not that I didn't think it was possible, but I never suspected there would be enough demand to offer them to the public.

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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Hmm...still in stock...

    Wonder if they have one for silver?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No big deal. People used to use mechanical separators to cull silver coins out of clad, back when there was enough silver in circulation to make it worthwhile.
    The weight difference between a zinc cent and a bronze one is 0.61 grams. The difference between a clad quarter and a silver one is 0.58 grams.
    TD
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    Then there's the old fashioned way...........A kiln ... image







































    just kidding...
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭




    ........wouldn't a good scale do the same?image
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    krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭


    << <i>........wouldn't a good scale do the same?image >>



    In theory yes, but the scale can't do it at 100 coins per minute! image

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭



    ............................image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the number of such separations I perform, a thumbnail works best for me, and is rather cheap. Flip a copper coin and it rings. Flip a Zincoln and it doesn't.
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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I buy boxes of cents from time to time to do just that, sort out the bronze and keep it, and send the zincolns back to the bank. I wouldn't want some stupid overpriced machine spoiling the fun of finding stuff like the 1910 I found last year, or the 1916-D I found a couple of weeks ago. I have found several 2€ cent coins, a 1928 Canada Cent with GV on it, Bermuda, Bahamas etc. Just too much fun.
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    lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    I use the good ol' fashioned date check. image
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep.. I prefer the hand/eye sort.... one of the pleasures of the hobby.. Cheers, RickO
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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Checking dates will not work for 1982 since they made noth types.

    I posted this before, it works great.

    The free scale works like a teeter totter, zinc stays up but copper drops. This one was made by flattening a metal brush and bending it to shape. Any strip of metal or tin can works. You can fold one end for the weight or add some solder or glue things to calibrate it until it's balanced correctly so zinc stays up but copper drops. The pivot point is a bend in the strip, the end is bent to hold the cent in a fixed position. I used a blue piece of electrical tape so it won't scratch the coins and used solder to balance this one.

    Top picture is the side view.
    Next is the bottom view.
    Next is a zinc cent staying up.
    Next is a copper cent dropping it down.
    Next is the brush I used to make it, just unroll a brush and the tin makes a good metal strip and it's easy to solder on tin.

    If you don't want to use metal you can use a piece of wood and a pencil for the pivot point.

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    Ed
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Assuming you kept it maintained and calibrated, it seems to me you could build this by creating a spring mechanism which is "triggered" by more than (say) 2.8 to 3.0 grams of mass against the arm connected to the spring, and remains in place to deflect lighter coins to a different chute for counting or bagging.

    Putting a coin down such a chute would hit the arm attached to the spring. If it weighed more than 2.8 to 3.0 grams (as the copper cents do), the spring gives way and the coin falls directly below into Bin 1. If it weighed less than that, the arm wouldn't give and the coin would be gravity-fed toward another chute leafing to Bin 2. Bin 1 holds all the copper cents and Bin 2 holds the Zincolns.

    There are more technical challenges than the oversimplified version mentioned here, but that would certainly be the potential start of a fairly primitive device which could do this.
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I buy boxes of cents from time to time to do just that, sort out the bronze and keep it, and send the zincolns back to the bank. I wouldn't want some stupid overpriced machine spoiling the fun of finding stuff like the 1910 I found last year, or the 1916-D I found a couple of weeks ago. I have found several 2€ cent coins, a 1928 Canada Cent with GV on it, Bermuda, Bahamas etc. Just too much fun. >>





    .........good point!image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington

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