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An interesting turn of events on a FUN purchase: Has your dealer ever done THIS to you?

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  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
    Keep the coin.
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭
    It all depends on two things:

    1. Did you feel you paid an honest fair price for the coin, or did the dealer make a mistake on pricing?

    2. Do you feel somehow obligated give up your coin back to the dealer (whats it really worth to you?? )



    and

    3. Do you really want the coin, for irrational collector reasons (which money doesnt factor into)
    “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    OK . . . just got off the horn. The offer has been increased to 43% more than I paid. Chances are very good that this is the one and only time that I'll be able to sell the coin for that much money. BTW, in case I was too subtle in my earlier posts (and a few comments make me think that some folks don't understand), I want to make clear that I know what the other collector is offering, not just what the WBD™ is passing on to me. The WBD™ asked for nothing more than a nominal transaction fee, even though he would deserve more if I were to sell.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The offer has been increased to 43% more than I paid. >>



    Is your post office open today?

    Russ, NCNE
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    If the coin is a difficult coin, you have been looking for one for a while, and is very attractive to you for your collection, there is no question that you should keep the coin.

    If it was a lark purchase, then take the profit. But, again, if it was for your collection, KEEP IT!!!!!!!!!
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everyone here can provide advice. But it's your decision, IGWT. Do what your heart tells you to do.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without knowing what the heck I am talking about.....
    Is the piece something that you will be looking for again once you sell it? If so, are you going to be able to find its replacement for a reasonable price the second time around?

    Signed,
    Confused in NY
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    You do have a good dealer; 33% in a day!!! Sell that coin ASAP.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    I would sell. I was in a similiar situation about 4 years ago. I received a 1799 large cent in trade. A dealer that I knew offered me about 50% more than I had in to the coin. I passed as I never owned such a coin before. 2 years later I wanted some money for something else. It took a while to sell the 99 and not nearly what the original offer was. Still made a few bucks however and got to own a cool coin for a while though
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In my experience, whenever you pass on an offer like this you end up selling the coin years later for a loss. >>



    Been there, done that.....I couldn't agree more....
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I guess even though I'm not a dealer, I must have more of a 'dealers' mentality than a collectors. To me its not even a close question. I'd flip that thing in a heartbeat.

    Greg Hansen, Melbourne, FL Click here for any current EBAY auctions Multiple "Circle of Trust" transactions over 14 years on forum

  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    do what suits you best, your in the drivers seat
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    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    If it's replaceable then I would sell.

    I have 3 coins that I would need 1000% profit before I would consider selling. Everything else has it's reasonable price.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Still have the coin, and still enjoying it more than the money. Unfortunately, I haven't found any any gem to buy in my series since January (although I've been lucky enought to cross paths with a couple of nice errors and one or two die varieties).

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    But maybe something will happen in Baltimore. image
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd ask myself two questions:

    1. Would I have been willing to pay whatever it is that I now stand to net on the sale? If the answer is yes, then of course I'd keep the coin.

    2. Does the offer change my perception of the value of the coin?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Bijon frise" is French for "frizzy rat."

    My bill for the above advice will follow shortly.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Still have the coin, and still enjoying it more than the money. >>

    Sounds like you made the right choice passing on the quick 33% profit. Sometimes it's not about the money.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975


    << <i>I'd ask myself two questions:

    1. Would I have been willing to pay whatever it is that I now stand to net on the sale? If the answer is yes, then of course I'd keep the coin.

    2. Does the offer change my perception of the value of the coin? >>



    I understand point no, 1, but not so much point no. 2.
  • Ya know...there ought to be some rule about two people with the same avatar not being allowed to post on the same thread...

    For a minute there I thought Andy had "lost it" and was talking to himself...image






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    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IGWT:

    That avatar is just so wrong for you...image

    I was scratching my head just as was SeaEagleCoins. I thought Andy had taken a dive off the board into the deep end. image
    Mark


  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975


    << <i>Ya know...there ought to be some rule about two people with the same avatar not being allowed to post on the same thread...

    For a minute there I thought Andy had "lost it" and was talking to himself...image >>



    Have you looked into the mirror recently? image
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    <<2. Does the offer change my perception of the value of the coin? >>

    I understand point no, 1, but not so much point no. 2.


    Here's an extreme example. Let's say that MadMarty buys a rare NJ copper at a garage sale and flips it to Russ. Russ then offers it to you. You like it and it sounds cheap, but you really don't know what it's worth. Then again, neither did MadMarty or Russ. Anyway, you're in a gambling mood and you buy it. Then, CCU hears about the coin and offers to triple your money, sight unseen. Since CCU knows the market, your perception of the value of the coin has just changed, hasn't it? And you probably won't be so quick to sell.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Ya know...there ought to be some rule about two people with the same avatar not being allowed to post on the same thread...

    For a minute there I thought Andy had "lost it" and was talking to himself...image >>



    Have you looked into the mirror recently? image >>





    ahhhh....a wise guy, eh? image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IGWT:
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    Mark


  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    -- Here's an extreme example. Let's say that MadMarty buys a rare NJ copper at a garage sale and flips it to Russ. Russ then offers it to you. You like it and it sounds cheap, but you really don't know what it's worth. Then again, neither did MadMarty or Russ. Anyway, you're in a gambling mood and you buy it. Then, CCU hears about the coin and offers to triple your money, sight unseen. Since CCU knows the market, your perception of the value of the coin has just changed, hasn't it? And you probably won't be so quick to sell. --

    Well, if I'm the typical collector, my perception has changed . . . my perception of myself, not of the coin. I'm now damn smart investor instead of an simple collector. image
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is getting pretty weird...
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you can find a replacement without much difficulty I would sell the coin. Remind the dealer thereafter that he owes you one.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Tell me, have I returned from China yet?
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977


    << <i>The coin arrived safe and sound, and it was every bit as nice as I judged it at the show. Happy, happy, happy. >>

    I have not read the replies. Lou, my question is a simple one...would selling for the quick profit make you happier? And for how long? I say keep the coin.
  • Al21Al21 Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    This is a similar situation (sort of) that my wife and I had. We bought a beautiful piece of property in Canada (near Golden, BC) for 250k US. When we got back to California our agent from Canada called with an offer of 10k from someone who really wanted the property. We said no, and a week later they offered 20k. We kept it, and it's worth 600k+. We made the right decision.

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  • << <i>This is a similar situation (sort of) that my wife and I had. We bought a beautiful piece of property in Canada (near Golden, BC) for 250k US. When we got back to California our agent from Canada called with an offer of 10k from someone who really wanted the property. We said no, and a week later they offered 20k. We kept it, and it's worth 600k+. We made the right decision. >>



    Do you mean +20K or 20K altogether?

  • Al21Al21 Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    20k more than our purchase price.

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  • I'd flip it immediately...unless you really like it.
    -Rome is Burning

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