So a buddy and I are talking coins at Dunkin Donuts when.....

gecko109 · July 21, 2008 10:31AM

.....this "kid" a few tables over interrupts us and asks if we collect coins. Let me set the scene real quick. My buddy is a very affluent collector, and we are discussing coins he owns such as a 1776 continental dollar in NGC 63, and a 1792 half dime in NGC 30....as well as coins he used to own, a flowing hair stella in NGC 62. Now we each have about $4,000 in coins that we are showing off to eachother when this kid who looks like a total gangbanger (tattoos, long hair, airbrushed shirt, and very ghetto accent) breaks into our convo to ask us about some roll of golden dollars he got last year. He wants to know what they are worth, yet cannot tell us who is even on the coin, and isnt even sure if its a golden dollar or a gold plated statehood quarter. We both kind of looked at him, and stumbled over our words trying to be nice to this possible car jacker. Anyway, we kinda let him down easy, telling him neither of us specialized in that sort of thing, but the value wouldnt be much more than face. It was an odd, and somewhat uncomfortable experience.

bidask · July 21, 2008 10:33AM

whisper next time your in public talking about coins you own...

rgCoinGuy · July 21, 2008 10:40AM

I thought it was cops, not firefighters, who hung out at Dunkin Donuts!

bigmansam88 · July 21, 2008 10:40AM

So.... what kind of donut were you eating?

STONE · July 21, 2008 10:41AM

Maybe a nice(r) sit-down restaurant would have been a better meeting place. Hindsight, I know!!!

I was sort of hoping that this kid knew a lot about coins and would make a better story. Oh well, still ineresting.

Cladiator · July 21, 2008 10:41AM

When in public I highly encourage you not to openly discuss your collection of high value items in a manner that you may be overheard. It's not only dangerous for you and your collection but your family as well. Want to talk coins? Go to a coin show, talk with your friends in private or log on to this forum. Complacency gets people killed.

lasvegasteddy · July 21, 2008 10:43AM

it could of been a chance to hook another collector too though and guidance was given to us freely...

gecko109 · July 21, 2008 10:47AM

<< So.... what kind of donut were you eating? >>

I was just having coffee, but I am a sucker for their french cruellers!

TwoSides2aCoin · July 21, 2008 10:51AM

Funniest donut shop coin story I ever read. Thank you, Phil.

Walmann · July 21, 2008 10:58AM

Considering the location you should have told him you collect holed coins that aren't worth very much.

AUandAG · July 21, 2008 11:04AM

Yep, good thing you let him down easy. He'd have pulled a gat on ya and vetilated your spleen, otherwise.

lol
bob

pendragon1998 · July 21, 2008 11:22AM

What on earth are you thinking bringing $4k in coins to a Dunkin Donuts? That kind of bling is best shown to a friend in one's house or private office.

fc · July 21, 2008 11:37AM

be careful about judging a book by its cover.. but it seems in this case
you were very astute about determining his numis knowledge.

VTCoins · July 21, 2008 11:39AM

<< We both kind of looked at him, and stumbled over our words trying to be nice to this possible car jacker. >>

Good to see you are open-minded and don't judge books by their covers.

ProofRainbowRoosevelt · July 21, 2008 11:39AM

<< What on earth are you thinking bringing $4k in coins to a Dunkin Donuts? That kind of bling is best shown to a friend in one's house or private office. >>

HOLY CRAPPPP!!!

COINB0Y · July 21, 2008 11:41AM

Hey, that was me at the shop talking to you guys!

Ok, I looked rough and had a bad case of "Bed Head".....Boy, you guys sure ate a lot of Donuts!

COALPORTER · July 21, 2008 11:42AM

<< What on earth are you thinking bringing $4k in coins to a Dunkin Donuts? That kind of bling is best shown to a friend in one's house or private office. >>

Stellas, Dunkin donuts, and 4 grand in, did you say, coin(S) ? lol

COINB0Y · July 21, 2008 11:46AM

Ah ha!

That's why you dropped the $500 Coin!! Sugar High from eating the Donuts, you lost control!!!

gecko109 · July 21, 2008 11:57AM

<< What on earth are you thinking bringing $4k in coins to a Dunkin Donuts? That kind of bling is best shown to a friend in one's house or private office. >>

$4k worth of coins didnt seem like alot when I left my house (just 4 coins total). But it seemed like alot when "DJ Prezzy Dollars" jumped into my conversation!

Broadstruck · July 21, 2008 12:04PM

Munchkins, Coffee Coolata, and Coins... what a combo!

adamlaneus · July 21, 2008 12:14PM

A few weeks ago, I was in my local coin shop. My car was in for a smog check so I left it at the shop, walked to the coin store and spent a few hours there looking through all sorts of cool stuff.

While I was there, two hard looking young dudes walk in, about 25 years old. They look like 'dealers' to me but I don't know exactly what they deal in. Funny style, odd gansta' clothes, a piercing here and there. Quite a style. One guy was just tagging along but the other simply wanted to purchase 4 ounces of gold; in 4 1 ounce bullion coins. Maple leafs, I think. Cash. I did my best to look like I was focusing on the coins in front of me during that transaction. Fortunately, that didn't take long.

Trying to do 'coiny' things at a coin store when lots of bullion is flowing is distracting.

You didn't tell him about the Cheerios sac?
You didn't tell him to look for missing edge lettering on presidential dollars?
Did you discuss the upcoming reverse sac designs?
Or instruct him how to open a roll without damaging high grade coins?

gecko109 · July 21, 2008 12:20PM

"You didn't tell him about the Cheerios sac?
You didn't tell him to look for missing edge lettering on presidential dollars?
Did you discuss the upcoming reverse sac designs?
Or instruct him how to open a roll without damaging high grade coins?"

Adam, had I not had a 1795 flowing hair half, an 1806 draped bust half, and a very sweet 1 oz key date gold panda in a PCGS 69 sitting on the table in front of me, I would have talked coins all afternoon with this scary fella. but as it were, I was just happy to shake off his inquiries as quickly and respectfully as I could without getting rolled.

Robb · July 21, 2008 12:24PM

<< "You didn't tell him about the Cheerios sac?
You didn't tell him to look for missing edge lettering on presidential dollars?
Did you discuss the upcoming reverse sac designs?
Or instruct him how to open a roll without damaging high grade coins?"

Adam, had I not had a 1795 flowing hair half, an 1806 draped bust half, and a very sweet 1 oz key date gold panda in a PCGS 69 sitting on the table in front of me, I would have talked coins all afternoon with this scary fella. but as it were, I was just happy to shake off his inquiries as quickly and respectfully as I could without getting rolled.

>>

You do realize that those fancy smancy coins might as well of been rocks in his mind and that someone who could eyeball their worth likely would not have met your stereotype, right?

gecko109 · July 21, 2008 12:26PM

You do realize that those fancy smancy coins might as well of been rocks in his mind and that someone who could eyeball their worth likely would not have met your stereotype, right?

That is ABSOLUTELY correct. Except there was one tiny little problem. I have a bad habit of putting a little round sticker on the back of my slabbed coins with the amount I paid for each. I do this in case something happens to me, at least my wife will have SOME idea as to their value so she doesnt get ripped too hard upon resale.

garsmith · July 21, 2008 12:35PM

Bear was probably there to you just didn't see him

Bear · July 21, 2008 1:10PM

Woooaaaaa, we talking donuts here.

You folks could a told me where you

were meeting....I woulda joined you.

FullStrike · July 21, 2008 1:32PM

The gansta was probably holding one of those Mint tubes of Gold Eagles that he picked up in a previous Donut Hole Coin-jacking.

He was most likely just wanting to fence the goods on you. Otherwise I'm sure you woulda been Coin-jacked also. He musta thought you was fellow Donut lovin Coin thugs - jus like him.

notwilight · July 21, 2008 1:42PM

<< whisper next time your in public talking about coins you own... >>

That won't attract attention at all. Perhaps some spy gadgets would complete the clandestine apearance...

notwilight · July 21, 2008 1:43PM

You failed to mention the armaments the two of you had concealed...

Bear · July 21, 2008 2:04PM

When ever I go out I am always armed.

I have a right arm and a left arm. My problem

is usually with my feet. I usually end each day,

with at least one foot in my mouth.

RunnersDad · July 21, 2008 2:15PM

Understanding that your situation is probably quite different than my analogy, if you ever take a walk across the campus of Harvard, Washington University or some of the other astute and prestigous universities in the US you would be surprised at the amount of hoodlum/gangsta/punk rock look alikes you find on campus. Only too find out that they are well on their way to becoming a Brain Surgeon or CEO of a fortune 500.
But then again Dennis Kozlowski was making over a 100 million dollars a year as the CEO of Tyco and felt it necessary to embezzle from Tyco and cheat on his taxes......
I guess you just never know

WoodenJefferson · July 21, 2008 2:26PM

What he failed to tell you is, he took the roll of golden dollars that were tied off in a sock, off another detainee, during a mess hall riot.

BillyKingsley · July 22, 2008 2:25AM

While I wasn't there and don't know the feeling you got, I would like to say that it is possible you made a mistake in judging him. Most people judge me by the way I look, and it's not pleasent to experience that. It's quite possible that he was really and truely interested in learning more about coins-but it's possible he wasn't, either. Usually you can tell a person's intentions by the way they look at you. Most people think I am planning to steal from them (I can honestly say I have never stolen anything, and have never broken ANY laws) just by the way I look. They also don't expect me to be able to carry on an intelligent conversation, which I certainly can. Of cource, I hate being in public with other people so a lot of people don't know that. I am actually surprised when people I don't know are actually nice to me.

Unfortunatly there are too many people who DO fit the perception people have of me-or worse people, even.

dac076 · July 22, 2008 2:32AM

Sometimes you CAN judge a book by it's cover, though not always. Next time use the "Cone of Silence".

mrearlygold · July 22, 2008 2:33AM

Were you followed afterwards? Would you know?

Rollerman · July 22, 2008 2:38AM

[q....this kid who looks like a total gangbanger (tattoos, long hair, airbrushed shirt, and very ghetto accent) breaks into our convo to ask us about some roll of golden dollars he got last year. He wants to know what they are worth, yet cannot tell us who is even on the coin, and isnt even sure if its a golden dollar or a gold plated statehood quarter.q]

Gee, he has a roll of dollars he "got" last year and doesn't even know what they are. I suppose he walked into a coin store or a bank and asked for a roll of..... something? LOL

You can't judge a book by it's cover is an old adage, but that was before you had books with titles that gave you an indication you wouldn't want to read it while being covered in demonic symbols etc.

Pete

BBN · July 22, 2008 2:38AM

<< While I wasn't there and don't know the feeling you got, I would like to say that it is possible you made a mistake in judging him. Most people judge me by the way I look, and it's not pleasent to experience that. It's quite possible that he was really and truely interested in learning more about coins-but it's possible he wasn't, either. Usually you can tell a person's intentions by the way they look at you. Most people think I am planning to steal from them (I can honestly say I have never stolen anything, and have never broken ANY laws) just by the way I look. They also don't expect me to be able to carry on an intelligent conversation, which I certainly can. Of cource, I hate being in public with other people so a lot of people don't know that. I am actually surprised when people I don't know are actually nice to me.

Unfortunatly there are too many people who DO fit the perception people have of me-or worse people, even. >>

It's amazing how many people think I'm a lower income person because when on my day off I'm usually in an old shirt, gym shorts and flip flops to go along with my 150k miles 2001 cavalier with body damage. The looks I get from people when I pull up next to them in their new Yukon or Suburban is kind of halarious, but is also annoying. I just don't place great value in the type of vehicle I drive, but I respect other people's vehicle enough that I'm not going to ding their doors. A car is a form of transportation to me and not a loud statement of my income...or massive debt, yet people that don't know me make great assumptions that I don't have a pot to piss in.

BBN · July 22, 2008 2:42AM

also should we really snicker at some people's ignorance of numismatics? This condesceding responses I got to my questions at a local B&M was what just about pushed me back out of the hobby eight years ago when I got into it for the first time.

TrustNo1 · July 22, 2008 2:46AM

just because he stole a roll of golden dollars doesnt make him all bad

originalisbest · July 22, 2008 2:47AM

Hey BillyKingsley (elcaminobilly), I remember you from the hobby heaven board. You're getting into coins now? Still modeling a lot? I hardly ever make it over to that board now, 'cept to occasionally surf. Hope you are well!

BillyKingsley · July 22, 2008 3:19AM

Yes on both accounts-I was just posting there earlier today.

While I've put everything away for the summer I hope to get building again in the fall. Just can't take the heat! What handle did/do you use on HH? You may remember when I had no clue about modeling like I now have generally no clue about coins, LOL!

moonshine · July 22, 2008 3:24AM

he who takes valuable coins into public places and talks loudly about them ... well ummm

DOH!?

lcoopie · July 22, 2008 4:39AM

you wouldn't take out a roll of hundreds or a bag of diamonds at the diner, would you?

mhammerman · July 22, 2008 5:19AM

"...log on to this forum"

This forum is a wonderful amenity if only for no other reason than to give us a relatively secure place to talk about something that the gangbangers and dreamers would love to take from us by whatever means necessary. It is kind of frustrating to not be able to talk to folk at work or our interesting acquaintances about our goodies, imagine what it would be like without the forum here or without anyone that even knew what a stella was in the first place.

BAJJERFAN · July 22, 2008 5:28AM

Didja arsk if he had enny IHCs in 64 red?

BECOKA · July 22, 2008 5:45AM

Maybe they were original gold dollars from the 1800's.

TexasNationals · July 22, 2008 8:59AM

That is why I carry my Glock 19 with me. I would have told him to mind his own f-ing business, no crap.

laserart · July 22, 2008 9:10AM

If you wanted to know what he knew about coins you could have offered him 90 cents each, cash !

JJM · July 22, 2008 9:56AM

You should only be in "fair trade" Indie coffee shops in the first place sir

charley · July 22, 2008 10:15AM

Glocks always help in assisting self in telling another to mind their own business. The real trick is doing the same without a Glock and without courtesy, as opposed to with courtesy. Respectfully(and weaponless), John Curlis

TexasNationals · July 22, 2008 10:30AM

Glocks always help in assisting self in telling another to mind their own business. The real trick is doing the same without a Glock and without courtesy, as opposed to with courtesy. Respectfully(and weaponless), John Curlis

I would have no problem with that either. I was eluding to the possible car jacker part.

Respectfully, Jeff

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