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AT or NT, thanks for your response!

AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
1959D found in a roll (not the end coin). This came from a collection that I
purchased and bought a bunch of nickel rolls at face ($76 worth!). This is
the only one that stuck out when I opened and resealed. All were circulated
to BU (pulled from circulation however). My first thought was AT but seeing that
the entire collection was absent of toners, with only a few Morgan exceptions,
I'm beginning to think NT. Electric blues with electric copper/peach colors.
Beautiful in hand.
bob
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Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    AT, IMO.

    -Paul
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT... but a dip will cure it.... image Cheers, RickO
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,940 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NT... but a dip will cure it.... image Cheers, RickO >>



    How did I know that that's what Rick would say????

    lol
    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • Id say NT. I have a few "blue" Jeffersons. Mostly proof ones, but afew buisness strikes.
    Looking for Au Classic Commems...
    Also looking for VF-EF Seated halves.

    Sell me your old auction catalogs...image
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    Nickels are one of the hardest coins to AT with chemicals. The same components that interact easily with silver and copper do virtually nothing to the typical nickel and very little to war nickels. You can usually spot them a mile away because they are so splotchy. Typically both obverse and reverse will be completely treated with chemicals on nickels as spot treating is impossible to control.

    Heat, however, is fairly easy to AT nickels but if "baked" they tend to have a target pattern with the darker colors at the rims. The colors can vary somewhat depending on what is done with it after the heating. When dropped into bleach while hot you can end of with dark/olive green, allowed to cool naturally you usually end up with a smokey color, etc. When "baked", either side of the coin can be done without having to treat the other.

    When heat is applied by torch you usually get results that are bright blue and purple. You usually end up with a streaky or swirly appearance that looks nowhere near natural. As with chemicals, torching is nearly impossible to spot treat so you will end up with both sides AT'd.

    When electricity is used to AT you will end up with much more natural looking blues, purples and sometimes sea greens. They will blend together nicely and be a lot more subtle. They will stink really, really bad just like anything else that has an electrical burn smell to it. The smell can be tamed by storing wrapped in a dryer sheet in a Ziploc bag but it will still be noticeable. It's not possible to spot tone but you can tone one area of the coin. It's giveaway is that it will "bleed" through to the other side more times than not, something you won't see on NT coins.

    Colors that seem to appear in NT nickels but not AT nickels are peach, red and orange hues. Sulfur can be used to get these colors out of other metals but tends to make nickel a hazy yellow.

    From my experience of busting $100 nickel bricks from the bank, NT nickels are not very common but when they do show up they look a lot like yours. Based on your pictures I would say NT. The only thing that makes me think otherwise is the fact that toning can be hard to capture and your description states "electric blues with electric copper/peach colors". If your description is more accurate than the picture, I'm not so sure.
    imageRIP
  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    For comparison and for visuals to go with Robb's post, here are some examples of AT nickels made using some of what Robb said.

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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    so how were the colors created on that last ocean view nickel?
    just curious
  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭


    << <i>so how were the colors created on that last ocean view nickel? >>



    A combination of creating a heat gradient in the presence of vaporized chemicals
  • Nice toning on the nickel. NTimage
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have seen toning, like in the OP, in mint issue cello's.... that being said, they can be doctored to produce anything... heat and chemicals will provide the full spectrum. In truth, most of the sparklers or really eye catching toning is AT... Cheers, RickO
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Tough one, but I would say NT.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson


  • << <i>I have seen toning, like in the OP, in mint issue cello's.... that being said, they can be doctored to produce anything... heat and chemicals will provide the full spectrum. In truth, most of the sparklers or really eye catching toning is AT... Cheers, RickO >>



    How do they doctor the coin and is it possible to doctor and know what's going to happen or just hope?
    -Rome is Burning

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends on the method used, and your competance.. usually gained through experimentation. The 'good' doctors can be pretty consistent. Of course, some of the coloration depends on the condition of the coin surface - always best to start with a 'clean' coin.... acetone, DI rinse and dry. Cheers, RickO

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