Is this forum considered the "media" in the context of Noe's appeal of his Ohio conviction
Longacre
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Everyone thinks the life of an international tax lawyer is all glamor-- traveling to exotic locales, dining at the finest eating establishments around the globe, and the ever present onslaught of Tax Groupies and paparazzi, who follow us around, continually trying to get an autograph or photo. The reality is that it is Friday night, and I am alone in my hotel room in Beijing reading Coin World. 
In the recent issue, there is an article about ex-dealer Tom Noe, and the fact that he is appealing his conviction in Ohio. One of the reasons why his lawyers are seeking a reversal of the conviction is as follows: "Overwhelming negative media against Noe before and during the trial deprived him of a fair trial."
I know that we discussed the Noe case on these boards to a great extent. At one point, there was no less than a full page worth of threads on the issue. In your opinion, are these boards considered "the media" in any form, and might they have had an impact on Noe's trial (or at least had an impact on the perception of Noe before and during the trial)? We have a lot of experts on these boards, so I don't think we can immediately discount the impact that we might have. What do you think?
In the recent issue, there is an article about ex-dealer Tom Noe, and the fact that he is appealing his conviction in Ohio. One of the reasons why his lawyers are seeking a reversal of the conviction is as follows: "Overwhelming negative media against Noe before and during the trial deprived him of a fair trial."
I know that we discussed the Noe case on these boards to a great extent. At one point, there was no less than a full page worth of threads on the issue. In your opinion, are these boards considered "the media" in any form, and might they have had an impact on Noe's trial (or at least had an impact on the perception of Noe before and during the trial)? We have a lot of experts on these boards, so I don't think we can immediately discount the impact that we might have. What do you think?
Always took candy from strangers
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
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Now if his verdict was influenced by lies, he might have a case. But IMO, there is no case. There was negative impact because he performed negative actions.
Joe.
And while forums might be considered "media", I doubt these had any impact at all.
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Agree.
Methinks his lawyers are after the Toledo Blade, who essentially broke the story and followed it to its conclusion. Sour grapes.
email is still right out apparently, though.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
Honestly, I don't think this forum is large enough to have an impact on a pool of jurors.
If the lawyer was concerned about the impact of this forum, the lawyer could have asked "are you aware of the Collectors Universe forums on the internet" during jury selection.
To argue that this forum has a general impact on the American public and could poison a jury pool? That's a stretch and I don't buy it. HSN has more of an impact, unfortunately.
Is it "media" in the context as used by Noe's lawyers, i.e., is it what the lawyers were referring to that prevented Noe from getting a fair trial? No.
When this broke my mom followed it on the Blade (she reads it daily online) and we were both quite surprised when we found out that we had both been in his shop.
-donn-
PS: Longacre, while you're in Beijing, it means there are several dozen fewer paparazzi chasing after Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton......
-donn-