Ebay forcing use of Paypal???
Greeniejr
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I was in the process of listing an item on eBay today and accidentally deleted our Paypal email address from the box where it requests payment info. It says that as a security feature it requires that all buyers accept Paypal. I know they tried this BS in Australia and that it was shot down for anti-trust violations. Has this happened to anyone else here and if so, how long is it going to take to have our anti-trust people stop the madness.
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After I tried it out, it was convenient and all, buying and selling, but the charges wasn't all that convenient
I think that it's almost like they're "double-dipping"
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<< <i>Newer" accounts that offer items for sale are required to accept Paypal. "Older" accounts were grandfathered into the rules and may list items for sale without accepting Paypal. >>
Correct. Accounts registered after Jan 2007 are required to offer it as a payment option.
Right now, though, there is a system glitch that's causing the message to appear for many sellers who would not normally be required to accept PayPal.
Russ, NCNE
They charge you to list the auction, they charge you based on what your auctions sells for, then the charge you to accept the pay pal payment which you have to accept.
It often works about to about 15% of the sale goes to Ebay/Pay Pal.
Of course no one is forcing us to sell on Ebay and it is FAR less expensive than paying for a small coin shop in my area but, 15% to fees is tough.
I also dont' like the new "best Match" default search feature which means if someone selling GARBAGE their auction is still ahead of yours as a "best match" becuase they paid an additional $10 to list their auction. Your auction might be a FAR FAR FAR better match but, you have to pay to be that match.
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<< <i>Newer" accounts that offer items for sale are required to accept Paypal. "Older" accounts were grandfathered into the rules and may list items for sale without accepting Paypal. >>
Correct. Accounts registered after Jan 2007 are required to offer it as a payment option.
Right now, though, there is a system glitch that's causing the message to appear for many sellers who would not normally be required to accept PayPal.
Russ, NCNE >>
A glitch? gotcha that answers my question.
<< <i>I also dont' like the new "best Match" default search feature which means if someone selling GARBAGE their auction is still ahead of yours as a "best match" becuase they paid an additional $10 to list their auction. Your auction might be a FAR FAR FAR better match but, you have to pay to be that match. >>
I do not use the Best Match feature. I use the ending soonest feature
peacockcoins
I'm not saying quit selling on ebay, I'm saying sell on any web site where you can sell..........
<< <i>I'm saying sell on any web site where you can sell.......... >>
Thank you Al Gore.
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<< <i>I think that it's almost like they're "double-dipping"
What do you mean almost? They are definatly double dipping
Baskin Robins doesn't even have that many scoops
It is utter nonsense all the crap both of them do. Yes I know there are other sites to use, but I see it like this...they are crack dealers!!! Yes, you heard me correctly...crack dealers!!!
They gave us free usage (paypal) and a universal countrywide/international sales venue (ebay) teased us all, got us hooked and whamo!!! right in the pocketbook.
I will quit now while I still have some sanity left...I don't want to launch into a long diatribe and lose readers!
morris
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Don't take life so seriously...nobody gets out alive.
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My thoughts exactly.....
Dave
<< <i>I'm a bit surprised there would still be sellers (buyers excluded from my reaction), old or new, who would not offer Paypal anyway whether eBay forced it on them or not. >>
We had a dealer in the store today when David's question came up who told us that he had sold an item in the $120 range, where the buyer insisted he did not want to pay for any shipping and to send the item first class mail. He got the buyer to confirm the shipping instructions via fax, got proof of shipping anyways, and had the buyer claim he did not receive the item. Paypal immediately refunded the money from the dealer's account and refused to liste to the dealer's protest.
THAT is why many sellers don't want to take Paypal.
As a buyer, I used it for a while until they insisted I had to give them my bank account information for direct withdrawal rather than put it on my credit card. I do not trust them with my bank information.
MOO
TD
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<< <i>I'm a bit surprised there would still be sellers (buyers excluded from my reaction), old or new, who would not offer Paypal anyway whether eBay forced it on them or not. >>
We had a dealer in the store today when David's question came up who told us that he had sold an item in the $120 range, where the buyer insisted he did not want to pay for any shipping and to send the item first class mail. He got the buyer to confirm the shipping instructions via fax, got proof of shipping anyways, and had the buyer claim he did not receive the item. Paypal immediately refunded the money from the dealer's account and refused to liste to the dealer's protest.
THAT is why many sellers don't want to take Paypal.
As a buyer, I used it for a while until they insisted I had to give them my bank account information for direct withdrawal rather than put it on my credit card. I do not trust them with my bank information.
MOO
TD >>
The dealer made the mistake of allowing the buyer to dictate mode of shipment, something that a buyer cannot do (I'm assuming eBay auction/BIN
and PayPal with this posting...). The mode of shipment is specified by the seller in the eBay listing. At a minimum, the lowest shipping option should
have been first class mail with delivery confirmation, and insurance. You have to comply with PayPal's seller protection policy, which, for a $120 item
would be, shipment to confirmed address, and delivery confirmation, as opposed to proof of shipment.
If the buyer does not want to pay the eBay invoice, he is a non-paying bidder, period. The seller then could file a NPB dispute and relist, or sell
to the next highest bidder. Another option would have been to ship as outlined above and eat the extra costs.
The scenario, as given, is hardly PayPal's fault, since the seller apparently did not comply with minimum requirements...
John
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<< <i>Paypal immediately refunded the money from the dealer's account and refused to liste to the dealer's protest. >>
That's a load of bull. PayPal doesn't do anything immediately. There is a step-by-step process to a dispute and two of those steps directly depend on what the seller submits as proof of receipt, not proof of mailing, and what the seller chooses to do from there be it continuing the dispute, offering a partial refund or a full refund.
I resent ebay's heavy-handed tactics, and I will not buy from paypal-only sellers. Never have, never will.
I've also had buyers who've tried to dictate MY auction terms and have tried to jam paypal down my throat.
I think ebay makes plenty of money anyway, and it's obnoxious the way that they try every trick in the book to squeeze more money out of loyal longtime customers.
I knew it would happen.