(: A thought for my next "Type Set"... Indian Theme? - suggestions and help needed :)

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 12:24PM

Hello all... so I have been surching for another "Type Set" to collection along the lines of my Buffalo Type Set (seen here).
I really enjoyed finishing that set and have been looking ever since on another to build.

well today I think i have it figured out... I thought it would be a great companion to this set to create a type set with all INDIAN REPRESENTATIONS.

So I could use some help in creating a list of necessary coins.

Depending on the complexity I would either like to do the following:

1) Collect every "type" within a series... ie if there are P,D,S,etc I would need 1 of each & also any design variations (mottos, no mottos, etc)
2) Collect 1 "type" within a series... ie denomination based and major design changes.

basicly... need some help!!

thanks very much in advance!

can't wait to see this one in a NGC MULTIHOLDER!!!

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SirAnthonyAC · June 22, 2008 12:34PM

Well, if you go with an Indian theme, you'll need to add a nice $5.00 large note too!

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 12:35PM

<< Well, if you go with an Indian theme, you'll need to add a nice $5.00 large note too! >>

funny you should say... yes... I was thinking the same thing and need to add the Bison note to the Buff collection... that would be VERY cool indeed.

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MidLifeCrisis · June 22, 2008 12:39PM

But..but..what about your colonials?

Does this mean you'd be willing to sell them?

Seriously though, an Indian type set sounds really cool. What grade range would you want to shoot for?

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 12:41PM

<< But..but..what about your colonials?

Does this mean you'd be willing to sell them?

Seriously though, an Indian type set sounds really cool. What grade range would you want to shoot for? >>

oh, colonials are still in the mix...

I just love completing mini sets along the way... kinda fills in the time between the colonial purchases as they tend to be a little draining on the wallet!

Grade wise... hummm... that's a good question... I guess because of the high price of the gold pieces I might need to stay on the lower side... maybe MS63 or AU58?

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SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 12:46PM

also something i just realized... a Sacagawea would need to be included as well!

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TomB · June 22, 2008 12:52PM

The MA half-cent and cent would be good items to include in any such set.

Dawg144 · June 22, 2008 12:59PM

Sounds like a neat idea! Though I think it would be pretty ambitious to do it by mintmark and by major variety.

Here's a list of all the main representations I know of:

1) IHC, no shield (P)
2) IHC, shield (P,S)
3) Buffalo nickel, ty. I (P,D,S)
4) Buffalo nickel, ty. II (P,D,S)
5) Sacagawea dollar (P,D,S(for proofs))
6) Gold dollar, ty. II (P,C,D,O,S...yikes)
7) Gold dollar, ty. III (P,C,D,S)
8) Indian $2.50 (P,D)
9) $3 Gold (P,D,O,S)
10) Indian $5.00 (P,D)
11) Indian $10.00 (P,D)

Classic Commemoratives (Since you already have an impressive type set of these, I'm sure you can tell if I'm missing any):
12) Boone (P,D,S)
13) Missouri (Star, no star)
14) Oregon (P,D,S)
15) Rhode Island (P,D,S)

Modern Commemoratives:
16) Buffalo Dollar (D, proof)
17) Jamestown Dollar (P,W)
18) Jamestown Gold $5.00 (P,W)

19) Gold $50 buffalo (P,W)

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 1:03PM

thanks Dawg144... holy carp! when you see it like this it is getting a bit scary... so probably will be staying away from mintmarks... and also I am going to have to bump the proofs because that could get nuts.

but that's ok... it will take a lot of pressure off in the end

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SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 1:07PM

<< The MA half-cent and cent would be good items to include in any such set. >>

that's a great idea tom... did not even think to go back THAT far

...

so are there any other colonials that would be needed... a quick flip through the red book and it seems like the answer might be yes.

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Broadstruck · June 22, 2008 1:19PM

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 1:29PM

those girls look like lordmarcovan groupies!

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Broadstruck · June 22, 2008 1:34PM

<<

those girls look like lordmarcovan groupies!

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Holy Cow (Pun Intended) Your right!

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 1:39PM

hopefully LM will not mind this endulgence...

OK... NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND!

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Broadstruck · June 22, 2008 1:43PM

<< hopefully LM will not mind this endulgence...

OK... NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND!

-sm >>

CarlWohlforth · June 22, 2008 2:14PM

Wow! Man! That is a very cool Buffalo type set. And how could you not collect Indians as well? I think you could display one set along side the other. The center piece would be the Indian/Buffalo nickel set. You could just mount that one on a rotating display so you could get double usage out of that one set!!!!

I do love the themes. Both are very American. You would get lots of attention at coin shows with such a super display. I'm so glad I clicked your link and was able to see your buffalo set. I love the Internet! This would not have been possible when I first started collecting coins! Go for it! Get the Indians!

Considering some of the Indians are expensive gold coins I, now this is a very personal decision, would get high grade coins and not bother getting examples from the various mints. So my set would include a MS 63 Indian Eagle but if I wasn't me and I felt inclined to get the branch mints I would then be very, very happy with AU coins. The incuse gold designs can look so very good in AU...

Have fun!

SpaceMonkey · June 22, 2008 2:21PM

thanks for the added inspiration Carl... getting pretty excited about it... I think the 63 grade with no branch mints is a good place to be... though if the price is right I would not object to higher grades.

This indeed would go superbly with the Buffalo set!

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BECOKA · June 22, 2008 2:48PM

Well, luckily you already have a nice set of Indians with the buffalo set.

Oh don't forget the O and S mint for the $5.

Finally, I just can't stop laughing.

SpaceMonkey · June 23, 2008 4:49AM

Bump for more thoughts on this endeavor?

also, what dealers are the Indian (Gold) specialists?

thanks!

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charley · June 23, 2008 4:57AM

I wonder if Tribal Attribution would play a part in the endeavor? It would of course require research into the original design intent, model, etc., but could be very interesting. Respectfully, John Curlis

PerryHall · June 23, 2008 5:06AM

As far as circulating coins, there are only four types with Indians---$2 1/2 & $5 Indian gold, the buffalo nickel, and the Sacagewea dollar. The Indian cent, $3 gold, etc have caucasian females wearing feathered headdresses which don't make them Indians.

SpaceMonkey · June 23, 2008 5:10AM

<< As far as circulating coins, there are only four types with Indians---$2 1/2 & $5 Indian gold, the buffalo nickel, and the Sacagewea dollar. The Indian cent, $3 gold, etc have caucasian females wearing feathered headdresses which don't make them Indians. >>

quite an interesting point...

though... the Indian "Theme" could still apply.

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MidLifeCrisis · June 23, 2008 6:35AM

<< 

<< The MA half-cent and cent would be good items to include in any such set. >>

that's a great idea tom... did not even think to go back THAT far

...

so are there any other colonials that would be needed... a quick flip through the red book and it seems like the answer might be yes. >>

TomB made a great suggestion to include Massachusetts half cents and cents in your Indian themed type set. But I'm not sure what other colonial era coins would be appropriate or obtainable in high grades.

You could try to obtain the apparently unique 1776 Massachusetts Indian Copper. Or an example of the Indian and New York Arms or Indian and Eagle on Globe coppers...or even one of the 3 known Indian and George III coppers.

Still, this is a great idea for a focused collection that ties in nicely with your Buffalo Type Set. As for grade, I would shoot for AU58 instead of MS63. I think overall AU58 is a nicer, more eye-appealing coin than most 63s.

PerryHall · June 23, 2008 7:03AM

<< 

<< As far as circulating coins, there are only four types with Indians---$2 1/2 & $5 Indian gold, the buffalo nickel, and the Sacagewea dollar. The Indian cent, $3 gold, etc have caucasian females wearing feathered headdresses which don't make them Indians. >>

quite an interesting point...

though... the Indian "Theme" could still apply. >>

Yes. You can always include Indian wannabes.

(: A thought for my next "Type Set"... Indian Theme? - suggestions and help needed :)

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