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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a 38 cent I bought at a show in an old non-designated ANACS holder for a song. Sent it to PCGS and it came back 65 cam.image
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    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    sweet and thanks for posting your 38
    these are...tough years on cameos...
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,129 ✭✭✭✭
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    (pcgs 66cam)
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    stunning buff my friend
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  • wow! nice buffalo whats it grade ? image
  • what is a cameo?
    -Rome is Burning

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    Okay, it isn't quite a cameo but it's pretty close.

    Russ, NCNE
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    <<< what is a cameo? >>>

    a coin that has a mirror surface with a frosted opposing surface

    better yet kick back and let some holders of these 1936 to 1942 cameo proofs display their cream of the crop here as there aren't many at all during these years

    you'll see first hand
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Now those are some sweet proof coins. Yow! I hope you guys have some more out there to post.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • NicNic Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet coins! Someone needs to post a half. Please? It would help if it's for sale! image . K
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice Walker Russ... and that Buff is really nice. Cheers, RickO
  • Super! I love those coins. I see we need a dime to make a proof set. This one has a touch of frost, it would never get a cameo designation, but it does look part way there. image

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    Okay, it isn't quite a cameo but it's pretty close.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Russ, you been playing around with the contrast?... that certainly looks Cameo to me.



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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    skyman,

    why ya gotta toss a crappy photshop of that 38 in...that's a terrible job someone did on that image
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  • At a quick glance that '38 WLH looks like a modern day DCAM Proof ASE.

    But after a closer look, it's obviously been messed with. image
  • This is not the first time people questioned Skyman's Walker photo. Nobody every questioned the coin once they saw it on person. I don't know about Russ' because I haven't seen that one. But Skyman's is the real thing. I've seen it in hand. It has more cameo contrast than any other proof Walker I've seen by far. It even has a touch of frost on the sun which I didn't think you could ever find. I've also seen a PCGS certified Cameo 1937 Buffalo. At that time there were only 2. I turned it down at 10 grand. Anyway I could make my dime look way better but I could also take a more accurate photo. Clearly I need to do one or the other. image
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    I have no doubt SkyMan's WLH is a nice coin and heavily (for the era) cameo'ed, but the bottom picture has clearly been messed with and the fields have been blackened to strengthen the cameo appearance.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    that bottom image is sad
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  • Paul - Sy likes the photo. He owns the coin. The photo reminds him of the coin. When I look at the coin I can see black and white cameo contrast. Russ' photo shows frostier devices except the sun. Since I've seen Sy's coin in hand I know it is the only frosty proof Walker I've seen with even the slightest bit of frost on the sun. I didn't even think frost on the sun was possible. So, given what I've seen, Russ' photo is less accurate than Skyman's. Was Skyman's photo altered with Photoshop? Sounds likely. Did Russ' photo blast the devices with white light? I don't know, I didn't take the photos nor did I see the coin. Russ says that Walker isn't cameo but close. What do the coins look like in hand? If you are lucky you may get a chance to photograph them and compare your work with the excellent photos presented.
  • StellaStella Posts: 732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Basically, all of the 1936-1942 Proof coins are scarce to rare with full cameo contrast (or full for the date). As such, few are graded of most issues from the Walkers to Proof Lincolns by either of the two major services. Walking Liberty proof halves with completely (or more likely mostly complete) cameo contrast are especially scarce. In fact, certain years of each early proof series do not have a single cameo coin certified by either PCGS or NGC.

    Also, despite more proof coins being sent in, the populations have not been increasing dramatically as of late. The scarcity of these coins seems to have remained more solid than many modern "rarities."

    Cameo proofs from 1936-42 are actually a specialty of mine. I have bought and sold multiple Cameo Mercury dimes, early cameo Lincolns, and even contrasted Buffalos, so these coins have a certain appeal for me. Keep posting pictures if you have them!
    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    <<<Cameo proofs from 1936-42 are actually a specialty of mine. I have bought and sold multiple Cameo Mercury dimes, early cameo Lincolns, and even contrasted Buffalos, so these coins have a certain appeal for me. Keep posting pictures if you have them! >>>

    and you're a y/n

    way to go and hang on to some images as they slip by you
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    this should arrive monday or tueday...a pair of um...at $70 a piece i'm not holding my breath but know they may make a future thread like this.

    yes i asked this guy 3 questions about coin and images i can expect to receive and at least he has a return that i asked about too...

    i think it's worthy for this thread
    image<<<i am in reserve until coins are in for a do i get a you suck thread finally
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Carl! Thanks for the comments! Are you going to Alameda on the 22nd for the show?





    << <i>skyman,

    why ya gotta toss a crappy photshop of that 38 in...that's a terrible job someone did on that image >>





    LVT, unless you've seen the coin you won't understand. Here is the original thread it was in:

    Walker

    You'll note the comments about photoshopping start to appear about halfway into the second page. You will also note that the photographer (not me) created the photoshop to better show HOW THE COIN ACTUALLY LOOKS. You will also note that there are 3 people (aside from the photographer and myself) WHO HAVE SEEN THE COIN who support what was done with the photoshopping. You decide whether what Bruce did was right. I think it was, and it is an excellent representation of the coin. I'll probably be bringing it to the November Santa Clara show if you want to see it and make up your own mind.

    EDITED TO ADD: Fun looking Merc, Carl. image
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    <<<LVT, unless you've seen the coin you won't understand. Here is the original thread it was in:>>>

    i find that image sad as someone put black over a nice mirror and even did a poor job of it as they got lazy by the sun

    i like real images of real coins unless there is artwork involved---"not enhancing" as that didn't even enhance it my friend

    there are some who can shoot cameo coins that bring out what they look like in hand without a juiced failed attempt

    i in no way am bashing your coin at all...but there are some who speak the truth and too find like me

    why would someone sport a unjustifiable image of their coin--especially a coin like that

    i am in full agreement with "tomb"in that it does a discredit to it and

    sorry bruce if i hurt any feelers here...but why???

    carl...you honestly say russ's photo is less accurate over sky's photoshop'd one...hmmm

    as to russ's image and coin...russ can image a coin and doesn't play the photoshop way...it's a real coin and image too...no disrespect there

    i'm not here thinking everyone will like me as i'm sure you and carl now have opposing view of that

    but if you sell your coin with that bottom image...only those who have seen it in hand will make an honest bid...not those looking at that image

    and as too is it cameo by pcgs...the world may never know...the first 2 images aren't even enough to tell





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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pops for cameo Lincolns are overstated. I personally sent back 3 "painted" cameos and there has been no change in the pops in 3 years. These coins are truly rare.

    Also, using "lampshade" lighting for photography oversells the frost.
    Doug
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cameo was an accidental benefit of our early proof coinage. Those dies didnt carry that frost through many impressions, and thankfully TPG only view the "best" cameos to retain the designation.

    My entrant into the thread, 1937 Buffalo PCGS PR66CAM
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Purchased a few years ago on eBay from jwcameo in a PCI PR-67DCAM slab...submitted to NGC via NCS, and, voila! (I sold this coin long before I got my camera, so these are scans)

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  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>i wunna see some >>




    Well here you are. Shiny birdie.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wish the obverse of my 42 matched the reverse....
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    Airedale ;

    jezzes......... that 36 penny is the bomb ; are there ANY holdered by PCGS as Cameo ?
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can toss in my 2 cents worth.

    I also have seen Sy's 1938 Cameo Walker in hand. It is so much better in person, in hand, than it appears in the posted pictures. It looks like a modern ASE Cameo Proof. It is the best looking 1936-42 Cameo proof I have seen [though I have not seen many of these coins]. It would be interesting to see what it brings, if he ever chooses to sell it. There would be quite a buzz about this coin if sold.

    As for me, I have a 1942 proof Walker that has moderate obverse frost and heavy reverse frost. It would never get a Cameo designation. I also have a 1942 dime with some frost and decent fields. I also have a 1942 non silver nickel that has moderately frosted devices and decent fields under fairly attractive toning. I also have a 1940 cent that has light frost on the devices, deep watery fields and fiery orange color. Finally, the best I have is a 1940 dime. The devices are moderately frosted. However the fields are deep, black and watery on both sides. The fields really set off the frosted devices nicely. The kicker is that the dime also has developed very attractive rim toning. It is a very beautiful dime and is one of my favorite coins in my collection.

    Cameos from 1936-1942 are even better than cameos from 1950-1970 and I love those coins. What would be great fun would be assembling a run of cameo coins [cents through halves] from 1936-1970.
  • <<carl...you honestly say russ's photo is less accurate over sky's photoshop'd one...hmmm>>

    No, I can't say that because I haven't seen Russ' coin in hand to compare with the photo. I will say that Skyman's Walker is the only one I've ever seen with even a hint of frost on the sun. It is there on the coin. Russ' photo doesn't show any frost on the sun but appears to show very frosty fields. I would just love to see both coins in hand along with all the other coins posted here! There are some sweet coins posted here!

    lasvegasteddy - Just because I disagree with you about how well photos represent actual coins doesn't mean I don't like you. I'm sure we'd have great fun if we all got together for a show and tell.

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    hey carl,

    you're prolly right...we'd end laffin a bit...i'd still throw better darts though as i'd be tossin um at juiced photos...gettin good

    ok...i'm sorry...prolly not the best way of puttin that but...

    i'd cover sky getting a better image if he threw that bottom one in the trash...do we have a deal?

    keep posting these treasures ya'll as it's the closest some of us will ever come to um
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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone know when the last time PCGS made a cameo Proof Lincoln?
    Doug
  • I love these cameos...they look great.
    -Rome is Burning

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    <<< Anyone know when the last time PCGS made a cameo Proof Lincoln?>>>

    steward probably knows...hehehe
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are there any Cameo 1938 nickels?
    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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  • Lehigh96Lehigh96 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭
    I figured I would bump this thread with my new attempts to image my cameo proof Jefferson Nickel. No matter where I place the lights, part of the cameo contrast disappears. I really am terrible at imaging proof coins.

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Basically, all of the 1936-1942 Proof coins are scarce to rare with full cameo contrast (or full for the date). As such, few are graded of most issues from the Walkers to Proof Lincolns by either of the two major services. Walking Liberty proof halves with completely (or more likely mostly complete) cameo contrast are especially scarce. In fact, certain years of each early proof series do not have a single cameo coin certified by either PCGS or NGC.

    Also, despite more proof coins being sent in, the populations have not been increasing dramatically as of late. The scarcity of these coins seems to have remained more solid than many modern "rarities."

    Cameo proofs from 1936-42 are actually a specialty of mine. I have bought and sold multiple Cameo Mercury dimes, early cameo Lincolns, and even contrasted Buffalos, so these coins have a certain appeal for me. Keep posting pictures if you have them! >>



    A great subject of study. These coins are really rare with cameos. I've paid little attention to Linc's and Jeff's, but the silver coins and Buff's are really tough.

    5c
    1936 - never seen or heard of one. Any on the pop report (asks Mr. Lazy)?
    1937 - more of these than any other denomination/cameo of the era. Hyper-brilliant fields accentuate the contrast. I have seen a few of these "done".

    10c
    1939 - more than any other date 10c
    1942 - more often than any other besides 1939

    50c
    1936 - saw one that might actually qualify
    1938 - a few
    1939 - a few more than that.

    "or full for the date" is usually as far as it goes.

    LOL, a registry set (all series within date range) winner could have 5 coins !
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FYI, there are no (zero) cameo 1936 Buffalo nickel proofs in the PCGS Pop Report.
    There are a dozen from 1937.
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I figured I would bump this thread with my new attempts to image my cameo proof Jefferson Nickel. No matter where I place the lights, part of the cameo contrast disappears. I really am terrible at imaging proof coins.

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    Lehigh,image, Mmmmmmmmmm, Ya I like your Lafayette 1$ too!

    Great Pics, I like it, image

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