Somebody needs to stick it to Ebay once and for all. $30,000 is nothing to them. I think most of us realize the main problem is they are a monopoly, Kind of like the horrid Charter Internet services I have
Instead of policing their auctions, looking for zero feedback sellers from China offering expensive hand bags, Ebay will most likely just not allow any hand bag sales at all.
It’s like with the retaliatory negative feedback (which was an absolutely legitimate issue) but instead of cracking down on the scammers and bogus sellers with “stock photos”, grab bags, and other crap… they just don’t allow any seller (good or bad) to post negative feedback.
EBay overreacts and everyone suffers for the actions of a few.
Since eBay has the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program, should Hermes. Louis Vuitton, Dior Couture, etc. be responsible? I'd imagine those companies know what to look for in counterfeit versions of their goods more than eBay does.
Obviously VeRO wouldn't work for raw coins, but it may work for slabs where there is a TPG in business. Is PCGS enrolled in the VeRO program?
<< <i>Since eBay has the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program, should Hermes. Louis Vuitton, Dior Couture, etc. be responsible? I'd imagine those companies know what to look for in counterfeit versions of their goods more than eBay does.
Obviously VeRO wouldn't work for raw coins, but it may work for slabs where there is a TPG in business. Is PCGS enrolled in the VeRO program? >>
Exactly, holding eBay responsible for the actions of fraudulent sellers is like holding a shopping mall owner responsible because one of the stores in the mall has counterfeit goods for sale in the store they are leasing. Ultimately, copyright enforcement lies soley with the rights holder which is why eBay has the Vero program to allow copyright holders to protect their brand name and allow eBay to take action against the sellers violating their rights. To expect eBay to be an expert in every item listed on the site in completely unresonable.
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Wouldn't it have been a hoot to see what eBay would have done if the fine was $3 million instead?
And, does the French ruling now set a precedent that other suits involving counterfeit merchandise sales could point to and make the claim that eBay is a habitual offender that does not exercise proper and appropriate oversight of its venue?
<< <i>And, does the French ruling now set a precedent that other suits involving counterfeit merchandise sales could point to and make the claim that eBay is a habitual offender that does not exercise proper and appropriate oversight of its venue? >>
Have French rulings in other areas affected more general sales? For example, have any rulings on iTunes filtered to the US market?
<< <i>Since eBay has the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program, should Hermes. Louis Vuitton, Dior Couture, etc. be responsible? I'd imagine those companies know what to look for in counterfeit versions of their goods more than eBay does.
Obviously VeRO wouldn't work for raw coins, but it may work for slabs where there is a TPG in business. Is PCGS enrolled in the VeRO program? >>
Exactly, holding eBay responsible for the actions of fraudulent sellers is like holding a shopping mall owner responsible because one of the stores in the mall has counterfeit goods for sale in the store they are leasing. Ultimately, copyright enforcement lies soley with the rights holder which is why eBay has the Vero program to allow copyright holders to protect their brand name and allow eBay to take action against the sellers violating their rights. To expect eBay to be an expert in every item listed on the site in completely unresonable. >>
To expect eBay to be an expert in every item listed on the site in completely unresonable
Worth repeating I thought. Rulings like this can result in literally thousands of disgruntled buyers to sue eBay directly. Might as well shut the site down immediately.
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Instead of policing their auctions, looking for zero feedback sellers from China offering expensive hand bags, Ebay will most likely just not allow any hand bag sales at all.
It’s like with the retaliatory negative feedback (which was an absolutely legitimate issue) but instead of cracking down on the scammers and bogus sellers with “stock photos”, grab bags, and other crap… they just don’t allow any seller (good or bad) to post negative feedback.
EBay overreacts and everyone suffers for the actions of a few.
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<< <i>The fine was a slap on the wrist, being forced to display the ruling on the e-bay main page for 3 months is genius. >>
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Obviously VeRO wouldn't work for raw coins, but it may work for slabs where there is a TPG in business. Is PCGS enrolled in the VeRO program?
<< <i>Since eBay has the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program, should Hermes. Louis Vuitton, Dior Couture, etc. be responsible? I'd imagine those companies know what to look for in counterfeit versions of their goods more than eBay does.
Obviously VeRO wouldn't work for raw coins, but it may work for slabs where there is a TPG in business. Is PCGS enrolled in the VeRO program? >>
Exactly, holding eBay responsible for the actions of fraudulent sellers is like holding a shopping mall owner responsible because one of the stores in the mall has counterfeit goods for sale in the store they are leasing. Ultimately, copyright enforcement lies soley with the rights holder which is why eBay has the Vero program to allow copyright holders to protect their brand name and allow eBay to take action against the sellers violating their rights. To expect eBay to be an expert in every item listed on the site in completely unresonable.
And, does the French ruling now set a precedent that other suits involving counterfeit merchandise sales could point to and make the claim that eBay is a habitual offender that does not exercise proper and appropriate oversight of its venue?
<< <i>And, does the French ruling now set a precedent that other suits involving counterfeit merchandise sales could point to and make the claim that eBay is a habitual offender that does not exercise proper and appropriate oversight of its venue? >>
Have French rulings in other areas affected more general sales? For example, have any rulings on iTunes filtered to the US market?
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
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<< <i>Since eBay has the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program, should Hermes. Louis Vuitton, Dior Couture, etc. be responsible? I'd imagine those companies know what to look for in counterfeit versions of their goods more than eBay does.
Obviously VeRO wouldn't work for raw coins, but it may work for slabs where there is a TPG in business. Is PCGS enrolled in the VeRO program? >>
Exactly, holding eBay responsible for the actions of fraudulent sellers is like holding a shopping mall owner responsible because one of the stores in the mall has counterfeit goods for sale in the store they are leasing. Ultimately, copyright enforcement lies soley with the rights holder which is why eBay has the Vero program to allow copyright holders to protect their brand name and allow eBay to take action against the sellers violating their rights. To expect eBay to be an expert in every item listed on the site in completely unresonable. >>
To expect eBay to be an expert in every item listed on the site in completely unresonable
Worth repeating I thought. Rulings like this can result in literally thousands of disgruntled buyers to sue eBay directly. Might as well shut the site down immediately.
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