Yes Another E-Bay Rant....Buyer to Block

segoja · June 2, 2008 11:59PM

What am I missing....Buyer leaves me negative feedback stating

<< sent outdated guide with different title-braindead hosers >>

Link to Auction

I send the book (coin book) same day he pays. The title of the auction and the book are identical. It's the 2008 version and according to this guy it's already outdated.

The guy never calls or communicates in any way, and has not responded to my communications.

Might be wise to block...

blueduck440

ziggy29 · June 3, 2008 12:07AM

More proof that the seller should always leave feedback as soon as they are paid.

rgCoinGuy · June 3, 2008 12:11AM

Appears this buyer is selective on when they take their meds

Edited to change to too much negative left for others for me. Thanks for the heads up.

codamyer · June 3, 2008 12:17AM

Thats a shame!! Fools like that guy should be banned from Ebay. You even had a clear photo of the item.

segoja · June 3, 2008 12:18AM

Ziggy,

Not sure that would have helped. I think this guy is missing a coin or two from a full roll.

ModernCoinMart · June 3, 2008 12:20AM

Thanks for the heads up Sego. Looking at the other negatives this guy has left, he has a habit of pulling stuff like this on other sellers. Unfortunately, now there's no way to warn other sellers of these kind of buyers. It's impossible to find the warnings in the feedback, since everything is positive.

ziggy29 · June 3, 2008 12:22AM

<< Ziggy,

Not sure that would have helped. I think this guy is missing a coin or two from a full roll. >>

Looking at the feedback he has left recently, yeah.

It's unfortunate that the only way you can out a crappy buyer with feedback now is to give them a positive.

greghansen · June 3, 2008 12:22AM

Seems to be a rash of losers lately on EBAY. This is the 3rd guy I've blocked in last couple of weeks and I normally am not quick to block. Reading this guys negative feedback left for others, however, convinces me I don't want to roll the dice with this clown. Blocked.

ziggy29 · June 3, 2008 12:24AM

<< Seems to be a rash of losers lately on EBAY. This is the 3rd guy I've blocked in last couple of weeks and I normally am not quick to block. Reading this guys negative feedback left for others, however, convinces me I don't want to roll the dice with this clown. Blocked. >>

Notice also that the recent cluster of irrational negatives this guy left corresponded with the change of feedback rules. Yes, he gave some foam-at-the-mouth negs before that, but has gone into overdrive since May 21.

Nice work, eBay.

Silverstate · June 3, 2008 12:25AM

<< What am I missing....Buyer leaves me negative feedback stating

<< sent outdated guide with different title-braindead hosers >>

Link to Auction

I send the book (coin book) same day he pays. The title of the auction and the book are identical. It's the 2008 version and according to this guy it's already outdated.

The guy never calls or communicates in any way, and has not responded to my communications.

Might be wise to block...

blueduck440 >>

This buyer is winner.
You are not special!
Check out feedback left for others....Go to the 2nd page!! WOW.

This buyer must have been dropped on his head as a child.

SpaceMonkey · June 3, 2008 12:26AM

all i have to say is ebay sucks... segoja's sigline Ike is awesome

-sm

Casman · June 3, 2008 12:37AM

Blocked...

OPA · June 3, 2008 12:50AM

blocked ...

19Lyds · June 3, 2008 1:00AM

Blocked.

James, have you contacted your eBay rep to look at this situation?

SUMORADA · June 3, 2008 1:03AM

Done...........thanks

GRANDAM · June 3, 2008 1:11AM

<< James, have you contacted your eBay rep to look at this situation? >>

eBay could care less about the sellers. I received my one and only negative from a guy who never completed the sale or paid for the coin. He left me a negative and eBay wouldn't remove it

GrandAm

ziggy29 · June 3, 2008 1:24AM

<< eBay could care less about the sellers. >>

Which is really stupid. The more they screw the sellers, the fewer sellers there will be, and with fewer sellers come fewer buyers. Idiots.

Russ · June 3, 2008 1:36AM

The buyer is also a seller. Make a note.

Russ, NCNE

PerryHall · June 3, 2008 1:41AM

Anyone know this guy? If so, send him a link to this thread to let him know that screwing someone can hurt his bottom line.

Res · June 3, 2008 1:50AM

One of his victims changed the 'U" to an "I" in duck. Pretty funny.

BlindedByEgo · June 3, 2008 1:53AM

<< The buyer is also a seller. Make a note.

Russ, NCNE >>

He's now added to my favorites with a special note

segoja · June 3, 2008 1:58AM

HMMMM I see a runaway auction in this sellers near future

dac076 · June 3, 2008 2:03AM

It's unfortunate that the only way you can out a crappy buyer with feedback now is to give them a positive.

I think that's a mistake because 1)Nobody reads positive comments and 2)By leaving him a positive, you improve his feedback %. The better option is to report it to Ebay. And yes, they will do nothing for you, but hopefully they cross reference reports so the repeat offenders will get caught.

As Russ pointed out, this guy is also a seller. That's rare for psycho buyers. I'd definitely watch his auctions!

ebaytrader · June 3, 2008 2:05AM

I've had to block more users in the last 2 weeks than in the last 2 years.

I've already told a feedback extortionist to eph off and been scammed with a PayPal claim in the last 2 weeks...just waiting on the negs to arrive and I expect it to get much worse.

Not much you can do if you intend to stay there.

dac076 · June 3, 2008 2:14AM

I've had to block more users in the last 2 weeks than in the last 2 years.

I've already told a feedback extortionist to eph off and been scammed with a PayPal claim in the last 2 weeks...just waiting on the negs to arrive and I expect it to get much worse.

Not much you can do if you intend to stay there.

Same here. First neg/Paypal claim in over 2500 transactions.

OnlyGoldIsMoney · June 3, 2008 4:22AM

Thanks. blueduck440 is added to the hit parade of losers to avoid.

Mark

aficionado · June 3, 2008 4:53AM

<< I've had to block more users in the last 2 weeks than in the last 2 years.

I've already told a feedback extortionist to eph off and been scammed with a PayPal claim in the last 2 weeks...just waiting on the negs to arrive and I expect it to get much worse.

Not much you can do if you intend to stay there.

Same here. First neg/Paypal claim in over 2500 transactions. >>

Don't forget to complain to Ebay. Once they see how bad things are getting, they might modify the policy.

chiefbob · June 3, 2008 5:10AM

Added.

One of his sellers said he received a death threat from Blueduck. If true, I would have forwarded the message or email to ebay. Possibly to law enforcement.

Not surprised at the increase of negs for sellers since the new policy went into effect. It encourages them due to the ebay statement that "sellers can no longer neg buyers". What a crock.

Mar327 · June 3, 2008 5:11AM

I'm very sorry that happened to you - he's a real whack job and it gives me great pleasure to block him.

sanitarium1inmate · June 3, 2008 5:27AM

Blocked

AlixTCat · June 3, 2008 5:36AM

rant/
People with mental disorders can live relatively normal lives. However, sometimes things out of their control can cause them to do or say things that they wouldn't normally say or do. If a person with diabetes loses their foot, you don't blame them do you? If a person with a seizure disorder has a seizure, you don't blame them do you? It is obvious from reading this person's feedback left for others that something is awry in their life right now. Perhaps they can't afford their meds or just plain forgot to take them.

Should you avoid this person by blocking them? You betcha! But calling them names because of a disorder they have is just plain rude and heartless. Think about the people close to this person and what they have to deal with. All the OP had to deal with was a negative feedback. Not that I take negative feedback lightly, mind you. Just don't go calling this person names when you don't know the whole situation.

/rant

Jonathan

greghansen · June 3, 2008 5:44AM

Just don't go calling this person names when you don't know the whole situation.

What is the whole situation? Do you know? If not, your speculating just the same as some of our creative name callers.

What kind of a mental disorder is it that causes one to leave an exponential increase of negative EBAY feedbacks. I don't think I've seen that set of symptoms in my old copy of DSM-IV.

Bear · June 3, 2008 5:55AM

We hold these truths to be

self evident....All jerks are

created equal.

AlixTCat · June 3, 2008 5:55AM

<< Just don't go calling this person names when you don't know the whole situation.

What is the whole situation? Do you know? If not, your speculating just the same as some of our creative name callers.

What kind of a mental disorder is it that causes one to leave an exponential increase of negative EBAY feedbacks. I don't think I've seen that set of symptoms in my old copy of DSM-IV. >>

I'm sorry. For a minute I thought your comment was worth my reply.
My mistake.

Jonathan

DennisH · June 3, 2008 6:06AM

Blocked.. and thanks for the heads-up.

Mar327 · June 3, 2008 6:20AM

There are people with mental disorders, then there are just mean spirited people - if I knew his was a medical disorder, I wouldn't call him a whack job. But I tend to believe he's just a mean-spirited individual with an ax to grind, hence a whack job. How he got away with using profanity in that one feedback is questionable on eBay's part.

Sincerely and with no apologies... Marlene

nutz4coinz · June 3, 2008 6:22AM

Used to be never any seller with under a 99%...looks like that may have to re-adjusted to any seller with under a 95%.....definitely makes me cringe, as it seems selling an item is almost an invite for a neg. Disputes, claims are going to rise, sellers are going to get screwed over more and more, to the point that ebay may not need to have someone pop up and have a solid alternative to them. They may drive people to other venues which could definitely tear ebay apart. Not all sectors of ebay, but specialized sectors, such as coins, and any collectible, for that matter. I think, more sooner than later, ebay is going to realize that by handicapping a seller, was not such a good move. Sellers are now leaving their heads on the chopping block. ANY venue is better than one that basically tells a buyer he/she's in charge. I have always been one to leave feedback immediately following receipt of payment, as the buyer has upheld his/her end of the transaction by paying for an item....the seller, so long as he/she ships the item in a timely manner, and ships what is actually represented shouldnt have to worry, and this is what ebay is doing. It aint worth worrying about having disputes filed, getting negatives at random for no reason at all, losing money when paypal sides with the buyer (which they seem to do a large portion of the time)....this will come back to bite ebay in the arse, I firmly believe.

BUT, what it also does, is along with alienating sellers (I'll use coins specifically), it takes coins away from the general public, those that are just beginning, those that may be too lazy to look elsewhere for coins (except TV shopping channels)...could have a negative impact on the hobby.

The fun is just starting with the 'new' ebay, and it aint gonna get any better. Sellers, watch your backs.

CarlWohlforth · June 3, 2008 6:30AM

Blocked, thanks for the heads up.

I have %100 pos feedback, all recent comments are like "great coin!", "super fast ship!" and so on. However my detailed seller ratings have taken a huge nose dive. I don't get it.

lathmach · June 3, 2008 6:30AM

Is the author of that book the same fellow that owns ACG?

Ray

segoja · June 3, 2008 7:23AM

Yep Al Hager.....but that shouldn't be a part of this thread.

It's about the buyer and completely unwarranted feedback and how E-Bay is changing because of it's new policies

BlindedByEgo · June 3, 2008 7:41AM

<< rant/
People with mental disorders can live relatively normal lives. However, sometimes things out of their control can cause them to do or say things that they wouldn't normally say or do. If a person with diabetes loses their foot, you don't blame them do you? If a person with a seizure disorder has a seizure, you don't blame them do you? It is obvious from reading this person's feedback left for others that something is awry in their life right now. Perhaps they can't afford their meds or just plain forgot to take them.

Should you avoid this person by blocking them? You betcha! But calling them names because of a disorder they have is just plain rude and heartless. Think about the people close to this person and what they have to deal with. All the OP had to deal with was a negative feedback. Not that I take negative feedback lightly, mind you. Just don't go calling this person names when you don't know the whole situation.

/rant

Jonathan >>

Or maybe he is just a butthole. Not too many Psychiatrists I know could diagnose mental illness over the internet.

AlixTCat · June 3, 2008 7:57AM

<< 

<< rant/
People with mental disorders can live relatively normal lives. However, sometimes things out of their control can cause them to do or say things that they wouldn't normally say or do. If a person with diabetes loses their foot, you don't blame them do you? If a person with a seizure disorder has a seizure, you don't blame them do you? It is obvious from reading this person's feedback left for others that something is awry in their life right now. Perhaps they can't afford their meds or just plain forgot to take them.

Should you avoid this person by blocking them? You betcha! But calling them names because of a disorder they have is just plain rude and heartless. Think about the people close to this person and what they have to deal with. All the OP had to deal with was a negative feedback. Not that I take negative feedback lightly, mind you. Just don't go calling this person names when you don't know the whole situation.

/rant

Jonathan >>

Or maybe he is just a butthole. Not too many Psychiatrists I know could diagnose mental illness over the internet. >>

I'll grant you that. But the change in his feedback comments seem to belie an underlying condition as of late. That was just my point. If he had always been a butthole, I would not think he was having medical problems. Look at his feedback he has left over time. It either shows that he is off his meds, OR he always wanted to be an a$$40le but waited until sellers could no longer retaliate.

I guess unless I contact him, we'll never know.

Jonathan

TavernTreasures · June 3, 2008 8:08AM

I know there are crooks and scammers on both sides of transactions. But, EBAY was fun before they started with all these stupid rules over the last couple of years. I am holding off selling there for a while. With buyers running the show, I am afraid it is going to be too hostile an enviroment.

zeebob · June 3, 2008 8:25AM

blueduck440 - SO BLOCKED.

Russ · June 3, 2008 8:29AM

<< But the change in his feedback comments seem to belie an underlying condition as of late. >>

Yeah, it must be a mental illness. It couldn't be that eBay just eliminated the seller's ability to leave anything other than positive.

Russ, NCNE

Gandyjai · June 3, 2008 9:07AM

BLOCKED!!

Thanks for the heads up!

Brian

I Love

Variety & Error Ike Dollars!

AlixTCat · June 3, 2008 9:22AM

<< 

<< But the change in his feedback comments seem to belie an underlying condition as of late. >>

Yeah, it must be a mental illness. It couldn't be that eBay just eliminated the seller's ability to leave anything other than positive.

Russ, NCNE >>

I already said that.

Jonthan

morgansforever · June 3, 2008 9:34AM

If the sellers are the ones generating the fee's, and making them 100's of millions yearly, why does the buyer have so

much leverage? It's free to buy. I currently have a buyer that hasn't paid, going on 12 days.

Should be fun, I want my 2k, you bought it!

atom48coin · June 3, 2008 11:14AM

Blocked!! Who needs the headache?!

stockwiz · June 3, 2008 11:23AM

lol.. some of his feedback reminds me of when I browse the yahoo finance boards. All kinds of people there who are supposedly traders with tens of thousands in stock yet they post comments like they are in high school, talking about people's moms and stuff like that.

Here's just one of the many examples that are on every board any given day...

LINK

If these boards are any indication, I expect ebay to reverse this policy in short order. Give people relative anonymity, give them an audience, give them a sort of immunity to do what they want, and watch them go psycho.

19Lyds · June 3, 2008 11:25AM

<< The buyer is also a seller. Make a note.

Russ, NCNE >>

I di but he doesn;t have anythng for sale.

Yes Another E-Bay Rant....Buyer to Block

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