Ebay problem......guy makes an offer, I accept, now

SUMORADA · May 29, 2008 8:42PM

I get this.............

Hi,

I apologize, but I will not be able to complete this transaction. Please let me know what to do so that you can recover your fees.

Thanks

Manorcourtman · May 29, 2008 8:51PM

Now that Feedback is so one-sided it's not worth your time to make a big deal out of it. I'd just start the process to recover your fees and move on. Here is a perfect example of why eBay feedback is so stupid to not allow sellers to leave negative feedback for buyers.....especially deadbeats like this guy.

cmerlo1 · May 29, 2008 9:55PM

File the NPB, block him, and move on. It's about all you can do...

SUMORADA · May 29, 2008 10:12PM

The new ebay policy on feedback is just going to get out of hand, this guy knows exactly what he is doing.......he is abusing the new policy....if anyone wants to block him,pm me and i'll give him to you...

notwilight · May 29, 2008 10:50PM

<< The new ebay policy on feedback is just going to get out of hand, this guy knows exactly what he is doing.......he is abusing the new policy....if anyone wants to block him,pm me and i'll give him to you... >>

I don't think it has anything to do with the new policy. I got that occasionally with the old policy. If he is communicating with you, do the mutual withdrawl. If not, then do an NPB 30 days from now. No big deal. Your returns are much less than Nordstroms. --jerry

dorkbar · May 29, 2008 10:54PM

Cool...time to become an abusive eBay buyer. Just think how long a guy could dance around and bother evil sellers before being eliminated once and for all.

WinPitcher · May 29, 2008 11:50PM

I don't see the problem either, he apologized and said he would do whatever he could to get your fees back.

Chit happens.

Steve

garsmith · May 29, 2008 11:58PM

<< File the NPB, block him, and move on. It's about all you can do... >>

but one other thing you can do - out the turd so we all can block him!

rgCoinGuy · May 30, 2008 12:02AM

I have had this happen once or twice on auctions. I agree with the others about just filing a NPB and moving on.

Edited to add, blocking if you feel like it would also be appropriate.

Casman · May 30, 2008 12:29AM

I just had the same thing happen, a buy it now ngc 70, I priced it high cause I'm probably gonna hold but this guy buys it, then says oops I accidently got distracted and hit the commit button. He did offer to pay the listing fee but I have since blocked him. I see this as becoming more and more common with the new feedback rules. All we can do is block and out them here so others don't have to deal with it. My buyer was t_koo5bn8

DeusExMachina · May 30, 2008 12:56AM

<< Now that Feedback is so one-sided it's not worth your time to make a big deal out of it. I'd just start the process to recover your fees and move on. Here is a perfect example of why eBay feedback is so stupid to not allow sellers to leave negative feedback for buyers.....especially deadbeats like this guy. >>

I don't sell much on ebay but the new feedback has totally turned me off as a seller. If I need to sell on ebay I probably just consign because it is not worth the potential hassle. SUMORADA, I don't think you can do anything other than file an NBP and block. You might as well start the fee recovery process too.

ziggy29 · May 30, 2008 12:59AM

In order to recover your fees, you either need to file an NPB or the deadbeat has to be willing to reimburse you for them. I'd give the deadbeat those two choices -- either pay my fees or eat an NPB strike.

notwilight · May 30, 2008 1:01AM

<< Cool...time to become an abusive eBay buyer. Just think how long a guy could dance around and bother evil sellers before being eliminated once and for all. >>

Fortunately, I think there are more bad attitudes on this forum that with ebay buyers. --Jerry

57loaded · May 30, 2008 1:01AM

he does want to pay your fees, so give that ONE chance.

if you think he deserves to be blocked them by all means do so.

he will probably go NARU, so act fast

notwilight · May 30, 2008 1:02AM

<< In order to recover your fees, you either need to file an NPB or the deadbeat has to be willing to reimburse you for them. I'd give the deadbeat those two choices -- either pay my fees or eat an NPB strike. >>

Thre is no need for reimbursement. If you file a mutul agreement then nobody gets a strike. --Jerry

ziggy29 · May 30, 2008 1:02AM

<< he will probably go NARU, so act fast >>

But if he does go NARU, doesn't filing an NPB result in an immediate refund of your fees?

ziggy29 · May 30, 2008 1:03AM

<< Thre is no need for reimbursement. If you file a mutul agreement then nobody gets a strike. --Jerry >>

True. I forgot about that option. If you want to be nice about it, this is probably the first option.

OPA · May 30, 2008 1:06AM

<< 

<< Thre is no need for reimbursement. If you file a mutul agreement then nobody gets a strike. --Jerry >>

True. I forgot about that option. If you want to be nice about it, this is probably the first option. >>

Russ · May 30, 2008 1:06AM

I would rather have a bidder contact me right away like this with a straight up "sorry, can't pay" then one who strings me along and jacks me around. And, Jerry is right, this has nothing to do with the new policy. I've had plenty of these over the years.

Russ, NCNE

notwilight · May 30, 2008 1:14AM

<< 

<< Thre is no need for reimbursement. If you file a mutul agreement then nobody gets a strike. --Jerry >>

True. I forgot about that option. If you want to be nice about it, this is probably the first option. >>

You always want to be nice. If you don't go into sales with that attitude you're fishing for negative feedback. --Jerr

percyb · May 30, 2008 1:22AM

Move on. Life is too short.

RBinTex · May 30, 2008 1:36AM

Where's the icon for the little whining cryin' baby?

Sounds like he was being honest and upfront. Put the ball in his court and if he does the right thing it can still be a win-win both in terms of feedback AND future business.

If you can offer it as a second chance and it gets accepted and he covers any difference in price &/or fees (and what you think fairly compensates you for the extra time/effort) how are you REALLY hurt?

If you have to relist it and he covers any additional expense and any difference in realized price &/or fees (and what you think fairly compensates you for the extra time/effort) how are you REALLY hurt?

If you had a return policy anyway (& if you didn't YOU are the lowlife) and he went thru the motions of buying it and then returning it would that make you happier?

p.s. for a mere accepted offer, you are not out anything if you relist it except the time to get the final value fee back and the relist fee. Sounds like you're out a few bucks at most. A mere PITTANCE to lever against the opportunity to offer EXCELLENT customer service and really impress the buyer.

Walmann · May 30, 2008 2:17AM

I wonder if Ebay had taken into to consideration the reaction of sellers having to increase the number of bidders they will block. Somehow I don't think this is a result they may have anticipated.

BECOKA · May 30, 2008 2:20AM

<< In order to recover your fees, you either need to file an NPB or the deadbeat has to be willing to reimburse you for them. I'd give the deadbeat those two choices -- either pay my fees or eat an NPB strike. >>

As far as I know when you choose to mutually withdraw from the deal there is no strike or record of the issue when you do a NPB. All he has to do is agree when the form comes up and you get your fees back.

mike92694 · May 30, 2008 2:33AM

<< I get this.............

Hi,

I apologize, but I will not be able to complete this transaction. Please let me know what to do so that you can recover your fees.

Thanks >>

I have a question.

You're a well-respected seller on eBay. Is the purpose of your post to rant, or is it to complain about the buyer? On a related note, if you sell items for more than just pleasure, there will always be unpleasant transactions.

SUMORADA · May 30, 2008 2:35AM

RBinTex

f you had a return policy anyway (& if you didn't YOU are the lowlife)

You have a big mouth with just a keyboard in front of you, you would be wise to pick someone else to call names........................get it!

BlindedByEgo · May 30, 2008 3:05AM

People make mistakes. I personally prefer to move on. Stuff happens.

TavernTreasures · May 30, 2008 5:01AM

The guy shouldn't have bid. He should be thrown off EBAY.

ksteelheader · May 30, 2008 5:09AM

<< RBinTex

f you had a return policy anyway (& if you didn't YOU are the lowlife)

You have a big mouth with just a keyboard in front of you, you would be wise to pick someone else to call names........................get it! >>

Actually, what he said was exactly the way I see it. Need my address??

RBinTex · May 30, 2008 6:01AM

You ARE one of those bottom feeder eBay sellers with a B.S. return policy:

"Item must be returned within: 3 Days

Refund will be given as: Money Back

Return policy details: no returns on slabbed coins,returns on RAW coins accepted only if item is misrepresented !"

And apparently NOT above making threats (clearly in violation of the PCGS Terms of Membership)

halfhunter · May 30, 2008 6:11AM

<< I just had the same thing happen, a buy it now ngc 70, I priced it high cause I'm probably gonna hold but this guy buys it, then says oops I accidently got distracted and hit the commit button. He did offer to pay the listing fee but I have since blocked him. I see this as becoming more and more common with the new feedback rules. All we can do is block and out them here so others don't have to deal with it. My buyer was t_koo5bn8 >>

This guy has been posting on the eBay coin forum. This was a just posted comment he made about buying an ASE set:

t_koo5bn8 (97 ) View Listings | Report May-30-08 13:03 PDT 381 of 381

Yeah, I didn't take into account ebay or paypal fees. That's going to eat into the profit by what...5-6%? Oh well...I'm still glad I bought it though. Hm...another auction for the same products ending tommorrow. Maybe if that one goes for lower than the one I just got...(the one I just spoke to requires payment by check...so it's not eactly a done deal yet).

Evidently he doesn't feel that pressing the commit to buy button has any kind of commitment attached!

Regards, John

mrearlygold · May 30, 2008 6:14AM

<< I don't see the problem either, he apologized and said he would do whatever he could to get your fees back.

Chit happens.

Steve >>

Casman · May 30, 2008 6:30AM

<< 

<< I just had the same thing happen, a buy it now ngc 70, I priced it high cause I'm probably gonna hold but this guy buys it, then says oops I accidently got distracted and hit the commit button. He did offer to pay the listing fee but I have since blocked him. I see this as becoming more and more common with the new feedback rules. All we can do is block and out them here so others don't have to deal with it. My buyer was t_koo5bn8 >>

This guy has been posting on the eBay coin forum. This was a just posted comment he made about buying an ASE set:

t_koo5bn8 (97 ) View Listings | Report May-30-08 13:03 PDT 381 of 381

Yeah, I didn't take into account ebay or paypal fees. That's going to eat into the profit by what...5-6%? Oh well...I'm still glad I bought it though. Hm...another auction for the same products ending tommorrow. Maybe if that one goes for lower than the one I just got...(the one I just spoke to requires payment by check...so it's not eactly a done deal yet).

Evidently he doesn't feel that pressing the commit to buy button has any kind of commitment attached!

Regards, John >>

Nice detective work, you tools wouldn't see a problem if it sat on your faces!

ksteelheader · May 30, 2008 6:40AM

<< 

<< 

<< I just had the same thing happen, a buy it now ngc 70, I priced it high cause I'm probably gonna hold but this guy buys it, then says oops I accidently got distracted and hit the commit button. He did offer to pay the listing fee but I have since blocked him. I see this as becoming more and more common with the new feedback rules. All we can do is block and out them here so others don't have to deal with it. My buyer was t_koo5bn8 >>

This guy has been posting on the eBay coin forum. This was a just posted comment he made about buying an ASE set:

t_koo5bn8 (97 ) View Listings | Report May-30-08 13:03 PDT 381 of 381

Yeah, I didn't take into account ebay or paypal fees. That's going to eat into the profit by what...5-6%? Oh well...I'm still glad I bought it though. Hm...another auction for the same products ending tommorrow. Maybe if that one goes for lower than the one I just got...(the one I just spoke to requires payment by check...so it's not eactly a done deal yet).

Evidently he doesn't feel that pressing the commit to buy button has any kind of commitment attached!

Regards, John >>

Nice detective work, you tools wouldn't see a problem if it sat on your faces! >>

Whoop-de-doo!!!

Not everyone spends all their time cracking ebay cases that don't mean squat.

Casman · May 30, 2008 7:00AM

Get back in the Shed, Tool#1...you spend too much time focused on balls, others like to read....

WinPitcher · May 30, 2008 7:06AM

f you had a return policy anyway (& if you didn't YOU are the lowlife)

Not called for, actually Sumo is one top notch person.

Steve

coinman420 · May 30, 2008 7:16AM

<< f you had a return policy anyway (& if you didn't YOU are the lowlife)

Not called for, actually Sumo is one top notch person.

Steve >>

my thoughts also, not called for!

ksteelheader · May 30, 2008 7:34AM

<< Get back in the Shed, Tool#1... >>

halfhunter · May 30, 2008 7:37AM

Whoop-de-doo!!!

Not everyone spends all their time cracking ebay cases that don't mean squat.

Just a slow day!

Regards, John

seatedcoins · May 30, 2008 7:38AM

<< I have had this happen once or twice on auctions. I agree with the others about just filing a NPB and moving on.

Edited to add, blocking if you feel like it would also be appropriate. >>

He should have followed through with the deal. He was courteous though and did not drag this on for three weeks though which believe me is a much bigger headache.

Casman · May 30, 2008 7:39AM

<< 

<< Get back in the Shed, Tool#1... >>

>>

Wow, 2 cheeks and you in the middle.....

IwantNonCCs · May 30, 2008 9:50AM

Two comments.

I had a kid buy a $50 item on their parents account. I told the parent no problem, we do a mutual withdrawl. I click the boxes to ebay, they
send the buyer a confirmation, they check the box THEY still wish to complete the transaction. Then I never hear from them. I try to file a NPB, but ebay won't let you after you tried a mutual withdrawl. So, now any person who choses not to pay gets the NPB. Won't get stuck paying fees again for nothin.

Other comment, I like the polite note, "I am unable to complete....". What they mean to say is "I changed my mind and your stuck." I agree with file a NPB, block the seller, move on. If they do pay, you'll have to decide if you want to deal with them.

pennyannie · May 30, 2008 1:17PM

There is a lot of unhappy people in the world.

Ebay problem......guy makes an offer, I accept, now

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