Why was this auction cancelled?

eagle7 · May 20, 2008 9:23PM

I know why, and I think it is over reaching on the part of EBAY. I dont make such comments lightly and I also know that what I said in the item description is absolutely true. My problem with this is why EBAY felt it violated their listing policies, when, in my opinion, it clearly does not. What say you? Auction

notwilight · May 20, 2008 9:26PM

When they remove an item nobody can view it, even the lister. If you want to relist, you have to start all over. PITA. --Jerry

edit: and if you don't have a copy of it, you can't even go back and try to figure out why they cancelled it. In this case, apparently you know what rule you voilated. --Jerry

Connecticoin · May 20, 2008 9:27PM

Hard to tell when the listing is gone and we cannot read it.

eagle7 · May 20, 2008 9:35PM

Well, I learned two things today. But I can read the listing. Evidently no one else can. Sorry for the confusion. Case closed.

UtahCoin · May 20, 2008 10:25PM

If you can still see it, save it as a screen shot then post it here

cho10 · May 20, 2008 10:29PM

If I understand correctly you posted a coin for auction and it was "pulled" by EBay.
They have a lot of rules.
To get an opinion on here in the forum you may be able to post a screen shot of the page onlòy you CAN see.
In other words, if you can view the "pulled" page using your browser, do a screen capture and post the resulting image for review.
A screen capture can be made using many software programs (such as Snag-It(tm) for ex.).
The simplest away is to press the "Print" button while keeping the "ALT" button pressed.
A copy of your screen will then be stored in your coimputer's "Clipboard"
Then open the Paint program (Start->Programs-Accessories->Paint) and selct "Paste" from the Editr menu.
Then you can save that image wherever you wish. I would select the JPG format for saving the image.
Then you can include the image in a message here on the forum (if the forum rules here allow that).

notwilight · May 20, 2008 10:36PM

even the seller can't see it. --Jerry

eagle7 · May 20, 2008 11:06PM

It was worded exactly like this auction!

cho10 · May 20, 2008 11:08PM

<< Well, I learned two things today. But I can read the listing. Evidently no one else can. Sorry for the confusion. Case closed. >>

I think that the statement above is either wrong (in which case the page cannot be seen) or, if correct, the seller can capture an image of it.

UtahCoin · May 20, 2008 11:08PM

Probably because you mentioned PCGS & NGC in the sub title....

AUandAG · May 20, 2008 11:49PM

Keyword spamming.

Can't use PCGS and NGC in the tille unless the coins are so graded.

bob

OPA · May 20, 2008 11:49PM

<< All coins will grade at PCGS or NGC, no cleaned coins >>

That's a "no no" ... you'r coins are not graded & it's only your opinion that they would. Not allowed to use qualified TPG's Names in your Title or Subtitle unless they are graded by them.

ttxp · May 20, 2008 11:50PM

Looking at the auction example you gave I would think eBay closed the auction because of key-word Spam? I don't disagree with that action.

<< This is a very nice set with the half having light cameo on both the obverse and reverse but not quite enough to trigger the designation at PCGS or NGC, in my opinion. All coins are gradeable at PCGS or NGC. >>

If I were doing a search for (PCGS,NGC) Cameo this auction would pop up and this has absolutely nothing to do with my actual search? If everyone used such a description that a coin could be certified by a particular grading service, a keyword search for a coin already certified would become useless?

sonoranmonsoon · May 21, 2008 12:20AM

Yep, key word spamming, and stating they will grade at PCGS or NGC when you do not know that for a fact. Bad boy.

notwilight · May 21, 2008 12:30AM

<< Yep, key word spamming, and stating they will grade at PCGS or NGC when you do not know that for a fact. Bad boy. >>

Keyword spamming doesn't seem to work in the subtitle anymore. I put real keywords in the subtitle and my auction doesn't come up in searches.

OP I think you could have gotten away with this in the description if you said it was your opinion. --Jerry

seemyauction · May 21, 2008 12:39AM

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<< Yep, key word spamming, and stating they will grade at PCGS or NGC when you do not know that for a fact. Bad boy. >>

Keyword spamming doesn't seem to work in the subtitle anymore. I put real keywords in the subtitle and my auction doesn't come up in searches.

OP I think you could have gotten away with this in the description if you said it was your opinion. --Jerry >>

Jerry you are 100% correct, the sub title has never been searchable, what real function does it provide?. I my opinion it is a worthless option designed only to make money for ebay.

Alan

Res · May 21, 2008 1:01AM

<< 

<< All coins will grade at PCGS or NGC, no cleaned coins >>

That's a "no no" ... you'r coins are not graded & it's only your opinion that they would. Not allowed to use qualified TPG's Names in your Title or Subtitle unless they are graded by them. >>

I've seen a couple of tricky folks get around this by including a pcgs box with their auctions.

mrpotatoheadd · May 21, 2008 1:11AM

<< OP I think you could have gotten away with this in the description if you said it was your opinion. --Jerry >>

I'm not sure that still wouldn't get your listing pulled. From eBay's "Selling Currency" policy:

A raw or uncertified coin is defined as any coin not graded by one of the authorized grading companies. Sellers are permitted to list these items on eBay under the following conditions:

A numeric grade is not included in the title of the listing, such as MS-65, VF-25, etc. A numeric grade may only be included in the description of the listing.

The grading company or price guide is not referenced in the title or description.

A dollar value (even if personal opinion) is not included in the title or description.

eagle7 · May 21, 2008 1:26AM

Thank you all for your replies and insight. I have since relisted the two which got cancelled and am sure they will make it to term!

notwilight · May 21, 2008 1:29AM

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<< 

<< Yep, key word spamming, and stating they will grade at PCGS or NGC when you do not know that for a fact. Bad boy. >>

Keyword spamming doesn't seem to work in the subtitle anymore. I put real keywords in the subtitle and my auction doesn't come up in searches. OP I think you could have gotten away with this in the description if you said it was your opinion. --Jerry >>

Jerry you are 100% correct, the sub title has never been searchable, what real function does it provide?. I my opinion it is a worthless option designed only to make money for ebay. Alan >>

Alan, I'm aghast that it took me this long to figure this out. I've been putting alternate spellings etc in subtitles for a long time. What a waste of money. --Jerry

AlixTCat · May 21, 2008 4:23AM

<< Thank you all for your replies and insight. I have since relisted the two which got cancelled and am sure they will make it to term! >>

I don't see them. Did they sell that quickly?

You are BuddySeven, correct?

Jonathan

CoinKing1969 · May 21, 2008 1:21PM

I had the same happen to me except I used the PCGS price guide to give a reference on a coin value. I have done this for about 6 years and now just had about 20 coins cancled because of this. I really did not know you couldn't use a price guide in your description, even if the coins are PCGS grades. I understand that Ebay is trying to police the sellers to protect the buyers, but they are biting the hand that feeds them. To me it really insulst the buyers. If collectors went to coin shows and was policed the same way as Ebay has, nobody would go to coin shows. Imagine a collector came up to me and asked how much is the value of your PCGS coin in your display case, and the reply would be I couldn't. Pretty lame.

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