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Why do coin dealers put sheets and chairs on their showcases at the end of the day?

MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
Do they really think that this is an adequate security system?
Andy Lustig

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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    So the janitorial staff can vacuum?

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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    The honest answer is that I started doing it because I saw you doing it.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do they really think that this is an adequate security system? >>



    was it a way of saying i am closed, please come back some other time?
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    << <i>Do they really think that this is an adequate security system? >>



    I guess its better than being able to see through each case and see the huge pricetags. Far from sight far from mind and might help just one "security" person stay away from trouble.

    Cameron Kiefer
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    IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Cultic ritual. Actually, the sheets make some sense to me. The chairs not so much.
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    WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    Three sheets means to the wind. Chairs up means they wouldn't be able to sit in them in that condition anyway.
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797

    Same as jewelers, to cover up the odds and ends (cheap stuff ) they left in some of the cases.......or because they saw someone else do it...
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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you know when a coin dealer is on vacation?



    When his lawn furniture is on the roof!
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you know when a coin dealer is on vacation?



    When his lawn furniture is on the roof!
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Apparently I stutter.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Apparently I stutter.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    GFourDriverGFourDriver Posts: 2,366
    Because they cant lift the sofas.
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    remumcremumc Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭
    I do the same thing at gun shows. Keeps tempting things out of sight. The showcases are locked, not much security, but some. Then they are covered. I put the chairs over the seams or overlaps so no one can easily flip a corner to see what's underneath. All in all, pretty much what Cameron said. I've never had a problem during the closed times. They've always got me when I was open and watching. Never lost anything big. Sure hope I get to catch one of the bastages someday.

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    Wayne
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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    Because lifting those chairs roughly doubles the amount of daily exercise us numismatists get, and coin geeks love to stay in shape! image
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Because it pleases Baal.
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    To me it is out of sight out of mind. If someone was scanning the floor the quick and sure thing would be the cases that are not covered. less commotion with no chairs on top. Could you imagine waking up security if you drop the chair trying to peek inside? image
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Is it kinda like covering a bird cage at night?
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    northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It comes from a primordial urge to slab. Keeps fingerprints and dust off the cases just like the plastic does. Placing the chairs is the sealing ritual and removing them replicates the cracking.
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    The reason for the chairs on top is to keep other thieving dealers from taking the chairs. It seems that if a chair is left on the floor in front of a table it disappears. Nothing like paying $800 bucks for a table and having no chairs for your customers and then having the bourse chair (pun intended) tell you they are out of chairs and you will have to make due. As far as security and the sheets go well get a body bag.
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    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Do they really think that this is an adequate security system? >>



    was it a way of saying i am closed, please come back some other time? >>



    That plus it gives a false sense of security. Plus, everybody else does it....image
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    ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Many dealers are not at the table the minute the show opens or closes. If other dealers or security notice anyone milling around a covered table, it alerts them to a potential problem.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I wonder what would happen if some rebel dealer did not cover his case in the evening. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If they do not put the sheets on the cases, WTH else are they going to do with those sheets? And once placed on the tables, how else are they going to keep the sheets from falling off the cases? image
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    IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    PNG funded a study on security and discovered that a high percentage of thieves are allergic to linen.
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    CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭✭
    There isn't a criminal mastermind alive today who can penetrate such a security system.

    When potential thieves see those sheets and those chairs, they run away and get an honest job.
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭

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    FinallyHereFinallyHere Posts: 821 ✭✭✭
    1) Dealers are like lemmings
    2) Keeps your chairs from being stolen by other dealers who might feel they don't have enough chairs to put on their own showcases at their own table
    3) Because it's easier to put the chairs on the showcases than the showcases on the chairs image
    4) A long time ago John Agre came by my table as I was closing and said: "Aren't you going to put your chairs up?"
    5) I'm sure glad show promoters don't set couches out....that would really suck!
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's why there aren't shows in Chicago anymore. Union thugs won't let you put up your own chairs.
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,635 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's why there aren't shows in Chicago anymore. Union thugs won't let you put up your own chairs. >>



    Do they require you to have a union electician plug in your frikken desk lamp too?
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There isn't a criminal mastermind alive today who can penetrate such a security system.

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    Without attracting some attention from either the dealers in attendance (who presumably know each other) or the security guard.
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    GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    Didn't any of you see Fiddler on the Roof... TRADITION!!! (insert lame music here)image
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why do coin dealers put sheets and chairs on their showcases at the end of the day?


    Just so they can claim that everything on their table is priced "under sheet."image
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    nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PNG funded a study on security and discovered that a high percentage of thieves are allergic to linen. >>



    Good one!
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    nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just so they can claim that everything on their table is priced "under sheet."image >>

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    Also good!
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,635 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why do coin dealers put sheets and chairs on their showcases at the end of the day?


    Just so they can claim that everything on their table is priced "under sheet."image >>



    They are gettin a little extra bull sheet for the next day.image
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Has anyone seen how Julian hoists that big leather highback office chair onto his case in the evening?
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has anyone seen how Julian hoists that big leather highback office chair onto his case in the evening? >>



    I would pay strong money to see that. image
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    Probably uses a collector that didn't make it out in time as a ramp. Respectfully, John Curlis
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does it have anything to do with the PNG Dealer Chair Handstand Competition image

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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    The chairs and covers may not be totally adequate security, but it beats leaving the cases and all of their contents in full view when your table is unattended.
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    BBQnBLUESBBQnBLUES Posts: 1,803
    You know.... I thought it was to keep the Artificial Toning from fading b4 the coins sell.. image
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    dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do they really think that this is an adequate security system? >>



    From my experience, that is not the case. What it means, IMHO, is that "we're closed for the day - come back tomorrow." Seen it lots of times at shows.
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    dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That's why there aren't shows in Chicago anymore. Union thugs won't let you put up your own chairs. >>



    What a minute - I don't think that is a legitimate reason.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    From the Great Book of NumisMysteries:

    The Real Reason Dealers Put Cloths and Chairs on Top of Their Cases At Night

    As many collectors can testify, coin dealers are really a form of vampire that will suck the life-blood from you in an instant. Less well known is that they also prey on one another. Coin shows present the perfect venue for them to drain one another dry or, better yet, salt their competition with inferior product.

    The usual talismans – garlic worn around the neck, a christian cross of silver, a hair from the beard of the prophet Mohammed – protect non-vampires, but do not protect one vampire coin dealer from their colleagues. However, at the ANA convention of 1937, it was discovered that by placing a plain cotton sheet over the cases of coins at night, other vampire dealers could not suck the value and profit out of one’s stock. This is called the “Shroud of Tourin’” in recognition of the table shroud’s constantly being with the vagabond coin dealer on his tours of coin shows.

    To prevent accidental removal of the cloth, heavy objects were placed on the cloths – the drained corpses of coin collectors were used until health officials raised objection to the odor. Chairs are now used as being the most convenient, and this also helps discourage other dealers from swiping them.

    The above is secret to you and you alone, so do not divulge it to anyone….
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>From the Great Book of NumisMysteries:

    The Real Reason Dealers Put Cloths and Chairs on Top of Their Cases At Night

    As many collectors can testify, coin dealers are really a form of vampire that will suck the life-blood from you in an instant. Less well known is that they also prey on one another. Coin shows present the perfect venue for them to drain one another dry or, better yet, salt their competition with inferior product.

    The usual talismans – garlic worn around the neck, a christian cross of silver, a hair from the beard of the prophet Mohammed – protect non-vampires, but do not protect one vampire coin dealer from their colleagues. However, at the ANA convention of 1937, it was discovered that by placing a plain cotton sheet over the cases of coins at night, other vampire dealers could not suck the value and profit out of one’s stock. This is called the “Shroud of Tourin’” in recognition of the table shroud’s constantly being with the vagabond coin dealer on his tours of coin shows.

    To prevent accidental removal of the cloth, heavy objects were placed on the cloths – the drained corpses of coin collectors were used until health officials raised objection to the odor. Chairs are now used as being the most convenient, and this also helps discourage other dealers from swiping them.

    The above is secret to you and you alone, so do not divulge it to anyone…. >>



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    DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    to soak up any spilled Ketchup and other condiments that missed the mark during the day.
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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856


    << <i>Why do coin dealers put sheets and chairs on their showcases at the end of the day?


    Just so they can claim that everything on their table is priced "under sheet."image >>

    Now that one had me laughing. image
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    northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It comes from a primordial urge to slab. Keeps fingerprints and dust off the cases just like the plastic does. Placing the chairs is the sealing ritual and removing them replicates the cracking. >>




    I have to concur that the response about dealers wanting to be able to say they are offering their coins below sheet has to take the cake. image

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