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This has got to be fake!

Just wonder how he did it.... any ideas?1955 Triple Die

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    Rob41281Rob41281 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wierd that theres no doubling/tripling of the date.
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    ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    WOW
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭
    Is it possible he made his own dies from an original coin? Pretty impressive work on his part, I have to admit that.

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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wierd that theres no doubling/tripling of the date. >>

    Actually, there is. Look where Lincoln's bust meets with the rim below the date. You can see another '55' down there, in the field just above that point.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Surfaces don't look right
    2. Color doesn't look right
    3. Overseas seller
    4. Run, Forrest, Run!
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1. Surfaces don't look right
    2. Color doesn't look right
    3. Overseas seller
    4. Run, Forrest, Run! >>

    I totally agree with everything you just said... It's still an impressive work of art!
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    First, consider the Die rotation. Respectfully, John Curlis
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Minor strike doubling
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Minor strike doubling >>

    Now that sir... was funny!!image
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No shortage of bids.... would be a curiosity.... if only to determine the method used.... Cheers, RickO
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭
    The weird part for me is... the last impression should be the strongest, yet the "O" and "E" in "ONE CENT" have overmarkings from the previous impressions? Is it just me or is that weird?
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it's a fake although the coin definitely looks like it's been cleaned. It appears to be an ejection error where the coin was struck several times as opposed to a "Triple die" error.





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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a fake, made with False Dies.

    Tom Delorey explained how these are made:

    (paraphrased)

    A Sheet of aluminum or brass is folded over,
    and a coin is placed between it, and then pressed into a vise.

    The incused impression of the coin design will be on the
    metal sheet. Do it again, moving the coin a bit, and press
    it once more in the vise. Some of the coin's design will
    emboss up into the negitive impression of the "false die",
    leaving a false 2nd (or 3rd) strike.

    Credit again to Tom (Capt. Henway) for the concise explaination.

    These have been done for many, many decades - most of the D/S and
    Multi-Strikes in all of the editions of the Spadone book on Error
    Coins are fakes, made like this. ( book from the 1960's).......


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    What a way to ruin a perfectly good wheat cent image
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    coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    And both the obverse and reverse dies were tripled wow what are the odds of that?
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a fake, made with False Dies.

    Tom Delorey explained how these are made:

    (paraphrased)

    A Sheet of aluminum or brass is folded over,
    and a coin is placed between it, and then pressed into a vise.

    The incused impression of the coin design will be on the
    metal sheet. Do it again, moving the coin a bit, and press
    it once more in the vise. Some of the coin's design will
    emboss up into the negitive impression of the "false die",
    leaving a false 2nd (or 3rd) strike.

    Credit again to Tom (Capt. Henway) for the concise explaination.

    These have been done for many, many decades - most of the D/S and
    Multi-Strikes in all of the editions of the Spadone book on Error
    Coins are fakes, made like this. ( book from the 1960's)....... >>




    Great explaination. Thank you Fred for sharing!


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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a fake, made with False Dies.

    Tom Delorey explained how these are made:

    (paraphrased)

    A Sheet of aluminum or brass is folded over,
    and a coin is placed between it, and then pressed into a vise.

    The incused impression of the coin design will be on the
    metal sheet. Do it again, moving the coin a bit, and press
    it once more in the vise. Some of the coin's design will
    emboss up into the negitive impression of the "false die",
    leaving a false 2nd (or 3rd) strike.

    Credit again to Tom (Capt. Henway) for the concise explaination.

    These have been done for many, many decades - most of the D/S and
    Multi-Strikes in all of the editions of the Spadone book on Error
    Coins are fakes, made like this. ( book from the 1960's)....... >>



    (What I said.....)
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    partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    The seller also had a Mercury dime listed many months ago as well. Same triple struck concept. Definelty a ebayer to avoid.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Really interesting......if there is a way to cheat someone out of his money, someone will come up with a way to do it.image
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Also note that the guys is (or says he is) in France.

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    DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Also note that the guys is (or says he is) in France. >>



    Perhaps the coin was smashed between two layers of cheese to create the false dies initially?

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    DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭✭
    C'est fantastique!

    The seller is correct in identifying this error as "fantastic," in the strictest sense of the word (as similarly used in the title of The Fantastic 1804 Dollar, by Ken Bressett and Eric Newman). It's a fantasy.

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    edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388


    << <i>Also note that the guys is (or says he is) in France. >>


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    direwolf1972direwolf1972 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This one is interesting too, (same seller as the 55) >>



    Some sucker is in for a big ride it looks like.
    I'll see your bunny with a pancake on his head and raise you a Siamese cat with a miniature pumpkin on his head.

    You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.


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