1981-S SBA type 1 or type 2?

coinsarefun · May 6, 2008 6:26AM

Which mm is it?

Stefanie

SeattleSlammer · May 6, 2008 6:27AM

i think that's type 2........i think

JupitarCoins · May 6, 2008 6:32AM

That is type 1 because of the rounded S

commoncents05 · May 6, 2008 6:33AM

Looks like a T-1 to me.

-Paul

Smittys · May 6, 2008 6:34AM

Type 2 is flat with bulbs on the end

TorinoCobra71 · May 6, 2008 6:34AM

T1, not clear like the T2.

TC

SeattleSlammer · May 6, 2008 6:34AM

dang it!

tahoe98 · May 6, 2008 6:36AM

try this.

http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/1979SAnd1981STypes.htm

JupitarCoins · May 6, 2008 6:36AM

<< dang it! >>

Well you had a fifty-fifty chance

percyb · May 6, 2008 6:38AM

Type 1... The Type 2 has some opening and a chubby end tail (Correct me if I'm wrong, please).

Edited to add --See smitty's post above...

19Lyds · May 6, 2008 6:42AM

According to small dollars.com it looks like a Type 1.

Had it been a 79-S, then yes, Type 2.

coinsarefun · May 6, 2008 6:47AM

My mm is the middle one.
And, IMO it looks like neither

Stefanie

cladking · May 6, 2008 7:20AM

<< My mm is the middle one.
And, IMO it looks like neither

>>

There are frequently little differences that can be seen in mint marks and
between one die and another. These tend to primarily be caused by strik-
ing characteristic, of course, but every little difference in dies isn't import-
ant enough to get people interested to call it a variety. This can be seen
on quite a few of the type I '81-S coins (especially quarters).

Your '81-S would probably get attention as a "type III" if anyone cared. It
is pretty common (~10%) and looks a lot like the type I so no one cares.

coinsarefun · May 6, 2008 7:31AM

<< 

<< My mm is the middle one.
And, IMO it looks like neither

>>

There are frequently little differences that can be seen in mint marks and
between one die and another. These tend to primarily be caused by strik-
ing characteristic, of course, but every little difference in dies isn't import-
ant enough to get people interested to call it a variety. This can be seen
on quite a few of the type I '81-S coins (especially quarters).

Your '81-S would probably get attention as a "type III" if anyone cared. It
is pretty common (~10%) and looks a lot like the type I so no one cares. >>

Does my mm look doubled to you?
It may be just strike doubling.

Stefanie

erroid · May 6, 2008 7:37AM

Type 1

keets · May 6, 2008 8:58AM

from what i've seen there are more than just the two MM's referenced by most books and in pictures such as those in the links. the koinpro link shows the one i most often see and associate with Type One and it's very easily recognized. then there are a couple others that don't look like either of the two, but that may just be die state or the progression of the wear as the punch was being used on successive dies. they always have the telltale "points" which look like they connect the ends of the "S" with the center, i just have to look at the MM for more than a glance to be sure. with the Type 2 MM, they are easily recognized.

just last week the local shop owner had a group of about 25-30 Sets that he asked me to double check before he wholesaled them. one had the b ox marked "T2" and it was indeed a Type 2 SBA, but there were also three others in the group. three of the four sets had Type 2 MM's on all six of the coins and the other set was mixed. he was happy and we are both amazed at how often he ends up with set from other dealers that have good SBA's in them. too many dealers are either lazy, uneducated or just insist on trading the sets as commodity and never look at them.

cladking · May 6, 2008 9:15AM

<< from what i've seen there are more than just the two MM's referenced by most books and in pictures such as those in the links. the koinpro link shows the one i most often see and associate with Type One and it's very easily recognized. then there are a couple others that don't look like either of the two, but that may just be die state or the progression of the wear as the punch was being used on successive dies. they always have the telltale "points" which look like they connect the ends of the "S" with the center, i just have to look at the MM for more than a glance to be sure. with the Type 2 MM, they are easily recognized.

just last week the local shop owner had a group of about 25-30 Sets that he asked me to double check before he wholesaled them. one had the b ox marked "T2" and it was indeed a Type 2 SBA, but there were also three others in the group. three of the four sets had Type 2 MM's on all six of the coins and the other set was mixed. he was happy and we are both amazed at how often he ends up with set from other dealers that have good SBA's in them. too many dealers are either lazy, uneducated or just insist on trading the sets as commodity and never look at them. >>

Indeed.

Solid type II sets are pretty elusive but it's the demand for specific
coins that cause some of these to be expensive. These valuable coins
are not that tough in mixed sets.

pb2y · May 18, 2008 3:11PM

<< Which mm is it? Stefanie

>>

Both photos show the type 1 MM.

1981-S SBA type 1 or type 2?

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