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When Buying Proof Franklin's, What should I be Looking for...

Say that I was looking for Proof Franklin's in the 50's. Maybe a 1956 example in Cameo.

What characteristics should I be looking for? I'm assuming the usual characteristics would apply, no haze, strong strike, nice eye appeal, etc. Anything in particular for Proof Franklin's?

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find spots on these to be unappealing

    depth of cameo contrast (do you want cameo or maybe deep cameo)
    lack of hairlines
    clarity of mirrors
    type 1 (rarer) VS type 2

    I believe strike is not much of an issue with franklin proofs

    I like R Tomaska's book guide to franklin half dollars


    here's a 1955

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    forgot to post the reverse

    the dcams are much rarer than cameo

    and it seems to be harder to get a high grade with PCGS so I think they go for more
    LCoopie = Les
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    The 56 Franklin in deep cameo is common. the type 1 in uncommon in high grade cameo 67 to 69.
    Look for higher grade deep cameo franklin's in PR 68-69 Deep cams after 1955
    Look for high grade cameos to ultra cameos in high grades before 1955. PR 68 to 69 cameo, or 65 to 68 deep cameos.
    The 50, 51,52, 53 are a challenge to find in the highest cameo grades.
    My experience is the 67 cameos are a mediocre investment wile higher grades are better.
    the 58 has milk spots, seek only highest grades in deep cam without spotting in the fields.

    yes, no haze, strong strike, nice eye appeal, etc. Anything in particular for Proof Franklin's?

    Only seek high grades with deep even frost on both sides, not just one side.
    re polished dies exhibit hairlines, seek non hair lined Franklin's, from original die pairs.
    That have not been re polished, unless they meet the proper criteria.
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    NGC Franks. Because you can buy the nice one's for a bargain.
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    21Walker21Walker Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭
    The 56 Franklin in deep cameo is common. the type 1 in uncommon in high grade cameo 67 to 69.

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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OneCent, these guys have pretty much nailed it, but let me add a caveat. If you do not have much money to spend try and get the NGC PR* coins that are cameo'd on the obverse. You can get a really nice looking collection for not much money. Granted it won't be much on the investment side, but you will get a LOT of bang for your buck. If you have a little more money to spend then go for cameo's in the 67-68 grade. There are plenty of them out there so you can cherry pick for only a fraction of the cost some that truly should be in UCAM/DCAM slabs.

    Also, I personally for the common date cameo Franklins; 1956, 1962, 1963, much prefer a screamer contrasted PR68UCAM/DCAM to your garden variety PR69UCAM/DCAM. The 68 will only cost you 1/3 - 1/5 as much money, and I challenge anyone to tell the difference between a nice 68 and a 69. I sure can't, and I've been collecting these things for 20 years.
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    OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561
    Thanks for the comments, folks.

    I'm currenly looking at a 1956 PR68 UCAM that appears to have very nice contrast. I'll let you know how it works out.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Avoid toning... image Cheers, RickO
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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


    << <i>Say that I was looking for Proof Franklin's in the 50's. Maybe a 1956 example in Cameo.

    What characteristics should I be looking for? I'm assuming the usual characteristics would apply, no haze, strong strike, nice eye appeal, etc. Anything in particular for Proof Franklin's? >>



    The 1956 has the finest cameo contrast in the series. If you're looking for a type coin, this is the date I would go for. There are two distinct types for the proof '56 T1, the rarer of the two, has a weakly defined eagle on the reverse. T2 has a much bolder eagle.

    If you are able to view the coin in hand proir to purchase, look carefully for hairlines.

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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


    << <i>re polished dies exhibit hairlines, seek non hair lined Franklin's, from original die pairs.
    That have not been re polished, unless they meet the proper criteria. >>



    Polished dies exhibit die polish lines. Hairlines are a different animal entirely.
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    Avoid raw coins until you get a firm handle on how to interpret the various degrees of hairlines.
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    Coin I used to own:

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