<< <i>SSolars, That Brown would be fine in my set, if you're ever selling it send me a PM. John >>
Well, if I still had possession of the card I would be happy to sell it and recoup some of my losses. But part of being on the winning side of a Paypal dispute is you must return the item to the seller (at your expense) before a refund can be credited. The card was returned (w/confirmation) to the seller and Paypal confirmed its delivery. They then sent me an email stating that I would be credited a refund of $200 (within 5 business days).
However, in the same email it also states something about if they can’t obtain the funds from the seller they will take action against them and/or their account. But, it doesn’t say anything about not getting the refund (as stated earlier in the email) if this is the case.
It would seem that their concept of “Buyer Protection” requires the cooperation of the seller!
You may get lucky and get some $$ back and one of the Paypal coupons that some have received pretty recently. Maybe there will be some gold at the end of the rainbow. Be patient Grasshopper.
Because one needs a lawyer to understand the Paypal buyer protection policy I am not sure if this applies:
13.9 eBay Items Eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection. Every item on eBay (except Live Auctions and vehicles) that meets the above requirements is eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $200.00 USD (Basic Tier Coverage Amount), but items are only eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $2,000.00 USD (Top Tier Coverage Amount) and should be identified as eligible items in the eBay listing if:
1. sellers eBay feedback rating is at least 50; 2. At least 98% of the sellers eBay feedback is positive; 3. The seller has a Verified Premier or Verified Business Account in good standing; 4. The listing was on an eligible eBay site (eBay.com and certain other eBay sites self identified as such) 5. PayPal is listed as an acceptable payment method; and
I am not sure you are covered. Was your seller at 50 feedback? and at 98%?
<< <i>Because one needs a lawyer to understand the Paypal buyer protection policy I am not sure if this applies:
13.9 eBay Items Eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection. Every item on eBay (except Live Auctions and vehicles) that meets the above requirements is eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $200.00 USD (Basic Tier Coverage Amount), but items are only eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $2,000.00 USD (Top Tier Coverage Amount) and should be identified as eligible items in the eBay listing if:
1. sellers eBay feedback rating is at least 50; 2. At least 98% of the sellers eBay feedback is positive; 3. The seller has a Verified Premier or Verified Business Account in good standing; 4. The listing was on an eligible eBay site (eBay.com and certain other eBay sites self identified as such) 5. PayPal is listed as an acceptable payment method; and
I am not sure you are covered. Was your seller at 50 feedback? and at 98%?
Why that should matter is beyond me.
Steve >>
I believe those 5 things are only needed to be eligible for the $2000 protection not the $200 protection. Seems the $200 applies to all eBay items (except Live Auctions and vehicles).
I'm likely in a distinct minority, but I kind of enjoy getting burned on Ebay. There's something very uplifting about being reminded that a startlingly large percentage of my fellow Americans are willing to shamelessly sell themselves out for $10. Whenever I'm feeling down, or like I haven't accomplished enough, I can always take solace in the fact that at least my circumstances haven't degenerated to the point where I'm forced to rip people off on $2 cards.
My experience with the PayPal Buyer protection was that they tried to recover the funds for about ten days. Then they sent me a nasty letter saying they couldn't recover the money, but they would refund the money. However if the seller should ever send me the refund they would make reclaim on me.
I agree with you completely. If I'm going to commit fraud against someone, really, what's $100.00, $1,000.00, $10,000.00 or even $100,000.00. I certainly can't retire off any of those amounts for the rest of my life. But then again, the amount that I could retire off of, e.g. > $5,000,000.00, I'm nowhere near intelligent enough to conjure up a plan to defraud someone of that amount. Or that if I could come up with a plan, I wouldn't carry it out for fear that if I were caught, I would likely be in the big house for a very, very long time due to the amount in question. Essentially a lose, lose proposition. I guess I'll keep grinding away practicing law.
Hope you get your money back. I had to file a SNAD once and got my refund within a couple of days of paypal's confirming my return of the item. If you can'y get your money back in this case, I guess buyers don't have nearly the protection that I thought they did.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
They got suspended for not paying Ebay. I was told by billing a couple of months ago that the invoices go out on the 15th, restrictions go out on the 20th for accounts that are a month past due. Suspensions go out on the 20th as well for those more than 2 months behind. Since the 20th was a Sunday it makes since they did it today.
I do hope you end up getting your money back but with the time that has passed you may be up a creek
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Steve
<< <i>SSolars, That Brown would be fine in my set, if you're ever selling it send me a PM.
John >>
Well, if I still had possession of the card I would be happy to sell it and recoup some of my losses. But part of being on the winning side of a Paypal dispute is you must return the item to the seller (at your expense) before a refund can be credited. The card was returned (w/confirmation) to the seller and Paypal confirmed its delivery. They then sent me an email stating that I would be credited a refund of $200 (within 5 business days).
However, in the same email it also states something about if they can’t obtain the funds from the seller they will take action against them and/or their account. But, it doesn’t say anything about not getting the refund (as stated earlier in the email) if this is the case.
It would seem that their concept of “Buyer Protection” requires the cooperation of the seller!
Steve
13.9 eBay Items Eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection. Every item on eBay (except Live Auctions and vehicles) that meets the above requirements is eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $200.00 USD (Basic Tier Coverage Amount), but items are only eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $2,000.00 USD (Top Tier Coverage Amount) and should be identified as eligible items in the eBay listing if:
1. sellers eBay feedback rating is at least 50;
2. At least 98% of the sellers eBay feedback is positive;
3. The seller has a Verified Premier or Verified Business Account in good standing;
4. The listing was on an eligible eBay site (eBay.com and certain other eBay sites self identified as such)
5. PayPal is listed as an acceptable payment method; and
I am not sure you are covered. Was your seller at 50 feedback? and at 98%?
Why that should matter is beyond me.
Steve
<< <i>Because one needs a lawyer to understand the Paypal buyer protection policy I am not sure if this applies:
13.9 eBay Items Eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection. Every item on eBay (except Live Auctions and vehicles) that meets the above requirements is eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $200.00 USD (Basic Tier Coverage Amount), but items are only eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $2,000.00 USD (Top Tier Coverage Amount) and should be identified as eligible items in the eBay listing if:
1. sellers eBay feedback rating is at least 50;
2. At least 98% of the sellers eBay feedback is positive;
3. The seller has a Verified Premier or Verified Business Account in good standing;
4. The listing was on an eligible eBay site (eBay.com and certain other eBay sites self identified as such)
5. PayPal is listed as an acceptable payment method; and
I am not sure you are covered. Was your seller at 50 feedback? and at 98%?
Why that should matter is beyond me.
Steve >>
I believe those 5 things are only needed to be eligible for the $2000 protection not the $200 protection. Seems the $200 applies to all eBay items (except Live Auctions and vehicles).
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That is the primary key to the $200 vs $2K.
There are lots of reasons that folks don't want to get "verified."
But, if you don't, $200 is the max that will display in your listings.
I would not buy anything expensive from somebody at the $200
level. The $2K tags are very useful in building confidence in the
minds of buyers.
The OP is covered for $200 under the seller's scheme. PP noted
the $200 in their email to the OP.
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Looks like Laura does have an alter ego or at least maybe a crook as a boyfriend that lives in the burbs!
Any advise us how to notify eBay or Paypal and connect this two together?
I agree with you completely. If I'm going to commit fraud against someone, really, what's $100.00, $1,000.00, $10,000.00 or even $100,000.00. I certainly can't retire off any of those amounts for the rest of my life. But then again, the amount that I could retire off of, e.g. > $5,000,000.00, I'm nowhere near intelligent enough to conjure up a plan to defraud someone of that amount. Or that if I could come up with a plan, I wouldn't carry it out for fear that if I were caught, I would likely be in the big house for a very, very long time due to the amount in question. Essentially a lose, lose proposition. I guess I'll keep grinding away practicing law.
/s/ JackWESQ
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Added link to original seller!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I do hope you end up getting your money back but with the time that has passed you may be up a creek
<< <i>Lookie what's up for sell AGAIN! He put it in a new holder but there it is...
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Looks like Laura does have an alter ego or at least maybe a crook as a boyfriend that lives in the burbs!
Any advise us how to notify eBay or Paypal and connect this two together? >>
Although not related to the re-listing of the item...
The refund has been received! I repeat, the refund has been received!!
Thanks to all that followed this little escapade.
Scott
Either way congrats.
Steve
<< <i>Full refund? or 200.00 in buyers protection?
Either way congrats.
Steve >>
Just the $200, which was the winning bid. Luckily only lost out on the S&H on the auction and to return the item back to the seller.
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