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Suspicious looking 1916-D Mercury Dime -- Altered 1936-D?

ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
Actually, looks like a rather schlock alteration -- incredibly it has 14 bids up to $530. But you know what P.T. Barnum said . . . . .

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    yep, bogus
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    I think the other 16-D he has up for auction is real, but this one is bogus...
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    Even in the photo it looks like a '36.
    Paul
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    coinmickeycoinmickey Posts: 767 ✭✭
    We at buyerselite are not graders or authenticaters so please do not ask me to say whether this or any other coin we sell is authentic or if you think our grades ar too high or too low as it is only our opinion on such coins....As with all our auctions all estate items are sold as is with no returns and I mean dont even ask because the answer is NO!

    'Nuff said...
    Rufus T. Firefly: How would you like a job in the mint?

    Chicolini: Mint? No, no, I no like a mint. Uh - what other flavor you got?



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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They used the e-word...that's enough for me to pass even without seeing the coin.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the other 16-D he has up for auction is real, but this one is bogus... >>



    yep
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    Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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    Doesn't look right!
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    gummibeargummibear Posts: 786 ✭✭✭
    That guy is a total crook. I once bought a morgan he listed as dmpl years ago. He sent me one that was dmpl obverse. This was back when no photo was not uncommon. It was slabbed by one of those companies that would list it that way on the slab. He claimed he didn't know coins and it said DMPL. Then claimed it was consigned so he couldn't do anything. I battled with the shmuck for months and lost some of my money on the deal. He was new to ebay then and I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. He clearly rips off as many people as possible, just look at the rating. I ran out of time trying to negotiate with him and missed my chance to neg him. He should be taken out and shot.
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    has anyone ever considered teaching one of these scammers a lesson and doing a big chargeback on them? i get sick of seeing that sort of crap

    last year sometime i got scammed on a "proof" indian from a guy in i think it was north carolina...by the time the coin arrived the paint was chipping off to reveal an AU coin
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    I see that Bogus Bob is selling another altered coin!
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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Reported. And I e-mailed the seller. It's always fun to read the responses.
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
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    << <i>Reported. And I e-mailed the seller. It's always fun to read the responses. >>



    if you get a response, post it here image
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭



    ah the bayimage
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sent this message to this dishonest seller. We'll see what his reply is. Of late I've seen an obvious non-proof 1936 Buffalo sell for $800 and a number of obviously altered 3 legged Buffs that sold for several hundred dollars. These ignorant buyers must assume a lot of the responsibility for this stuff, too.

    I sent this message to this This is an OBVIOUSLY altered coin-probably an altered 1936-D. You would do well to remove the listing since I'm sure you don't want someone to get burned and especially since you have no return policy.
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We at buyerselite are not graders or authenticaters so please do not ask me to say whether this or any other coin we sell is authentic >>



    Selling coins since atleast 2001 and still has no clue. Yea...Right. Some of the sellers on eBay make me puke and puke and puke and puke. How can a person type descriptions about coins when they have two coins in front of them like this puke did? One of the two is fake for sure and the person cannot see the difference. Puke, Puke and more Puke.

    Ken
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    << <i>I sent this message to this dishonest seller. We'll see what his reply is. Of late I've seen an obvious non-proof 1936 Buffalo sell for $800 and a number of obviously altered 3 legged Buffs that sold for several hundred dollars. These ignorant buyers must assume a lot of the responsibility for this stuff, too.

    I sent this message to this This is an OBVIOUSLY altered coin-probably an altered 1936-D. You would do well to remove the listing since I'm sure you don't want someone to get burned and especially since you have no return policy. >>



    nice going and good move - obviously bogus - the date is totally out of whack and altered - as stated before by many on this forum - NEVER BUY RAW KEY DATES ON EBAY!!!
    currently putting together a EF/AU/BU 18th & 19th Century Type Set; and CC Morgan Set

    just completed 3d tour to Iraq and retired after 28+ years in the US Army
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one has an altered date. Note the style of the 9.
    The other has an added mint mark.
    Both reported.
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's not all that easy to make silver coins look as dark as the ones in his pics.I was going to lighten it up in Photoshop so I could see the alteration on the date.....ah.....the hell with it.

    The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
    Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)

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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Shoot, kinda makes you wish that e-bay would go the Teletrade route and require everything to be in top tier slabs, period.
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll also post his response, if any, to my message. Based on his previous answer posted here I'm sure it will be somewhat less than courteous.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    160216633732, 160216634253

    Both fakes per our Capt. so reported both.

    Made it easy for everyone, just copy and pasteimage
    Becky
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    The "9" is a closed "9" which was not used in 1916. Don't even need to look at the MM. It's fake.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,178 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We at buyerselite are not graders or authenticaters so please do not ask me to say whether this or any other coin we sell is authentic or if you think our grades ar too high or too low as it is only our opinion on such coins....As with all our auctions all estate items are sold as is with no returns and I mean dont even ask because the answer is NO!

    'Nuff said... >>



    Not really. eBay rules do not allow fake coins to be listed. If the coin is fake I believe he must accept a return and issue a full refund regardless of what he says in his description. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This one has an altered date. Note the style of the 9.
    The other has an added mint mark.
    Both reported. >>



    Which coin are you talking about? The one coin appears to have the right reverse for a 1916 coin. The 9 is very hard to make out on my monitor and could be just a poor picture. The portion shown here appears to be correct for the 1916 design but is blurry also. Either way the coin is damaged and a better example could be found.

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    Ken
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    erroiderroid Posts: 795
    I also wrote the seller and notified eBay; I'll post his answer, if I get one.
    John G Bradley II
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    Dawg144Dawg144 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭
    "The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale."
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    erroiderroid Posts: 795
    The seller wrote me back last night(I was in bed):

    Thanks, we are having the coin looked at by a local daeler again since there was another person saying the same thing. Coin will be taken off until found out to be real.. Thaks again!!

    All well that ends well.

    John G Bradley II

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