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I'm thinking of collecting strictly American Silver Eagles and Gold Eagles now. Slabbed by PCGS of course.LOL These coins seem to be hot right now so that's the direction I'm leaning towards. What do you guys think about it?? Ya'll think this is the best way to upgrade my Silver and Gold portfolio??
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  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭✭
    one word " SPOTS " image
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  • You'll pay a premium above melt for even MS69 pieces. Around here, the MS69 Silver Eagles sell for about $45 usually.

    I'd buy them in bulk, raw, for the best return on your investment, and the least premium over spot.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    You just wait. Spots might not be in favor today, but someday folks will be saying things like...

    "Wow, what amazing spotting" "I need to get my sunglasses out for those spots, they are wickedly brilliant!" "Wow, psychedelic spots!"

    And then you'll have artificially spotted (AS) coins, and various products will be available to make authentic looking spots in no time.

    Spot price will have a new meaning.

  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You'll pay a premium above melt for even MS69 pieces. Around here, the MS69 Silver Eagles sell for about $45 usually.

    I'd buy them in bulk, raw, for the best return on your investment, and the least premium over spot. >>



    I purchased (2) 2008 ASE MS-69 First strikes on the 'Bay for $55.00 shipped to my door image
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  • I've seen spotting on Silver Eagles but no Gold Eagles. Do the gold ones spot as bad as the Silver's???
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  • RarityRarity Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭✭
    For the gold, I would start with Gold Buffalo for its purity of 99.99%
  • What I was planing to put in ASEs I am moving to Silver Brittannas, no spots and much lower mintages. I know at least one other person so sick of milkspots that they are seriously thinking of making the same move. If I want to see milkspots I can go look in the kitchen after my kids have fixed a bowl of cheeros. ASEs are wonderfull spots are horrid. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gold does not have milkspots. (Actually.. neither do any of my silver eagles) Cheers, RickO
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Even 24k Gold Buffalos can be born with spots.

    It's not a milk spot.

    No, it's not blood either.

    Apparently, a fleck of copper got onto the die and contaminated the surface. This occurred during manufacture and apparently does not develop years later.

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  • Might be a stupid ? but I'll ask anyway. What exactly causes the "spotting" on Silver Eagles??
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  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm thinking of collecting strictly American Silver Eagles and Gold Eagles now. Slabbed by PCGS of course.LOL These coins seem to be hot right now so that's the direction I'm leaning towards. What do you guys think about it?? Ya'll think this is the best way to upgrade my Silver and Gold portfolio?? >>



    In the worst case you probably cant loose much. In the best case you will do very well. But it's certainly not a very exciting collection.
  • It sounds like you are collecting them more for bullion than for 'collecting'...if this is true, then I fully agree with SilverEagles92.
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Might be a stupid ? but I'll ask anyway. What exactly causes the "spotting" on Silver Eagles?? >>



    it's okay to ask, no questions are stupid, especially if you are thinking of putting your money somewhere.

    The ASE's tend to develop spots, more so in slabs than raw and some think more spots develop in PCGS slabs than NGC and also near coastal waters more than inland.

    something on the planchet either after a rinse and before it is struck, or if the coin is stuck then rinsed i dunno. (my guess)

    many think a rinse in pure acetone will neutralize any chance of spotting.

    i vacuum seal the slabbed silver.

    some of these spots can be removed from mirror proof areas of ASE, but if the spot is on the frost or any part of a MS then it is usually toast....

    though you do have a PCGS and NGC guarantee...it will take a long time for turn -a -round.

    you can get caught up in grading as only a 70 in modern is worth a significant amount over a 69....

    if i wereyou i'd buy 90% and even 40% and EVEN war nickels for getting into upgrading a silver portfolio.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Well, the value would never go down to zero but this is a scary time to start. If you buy little by little over time maybe.

    I don't think it's a smart idea, what if the value dropped in half after you make your purchase? Or it could go up.

  • Two things here baffle me:
    Why slab bullion, and why buy slabbed bullion? You will surely pay a premium.
    Why buy something that is "hot?" When something is "hot" that means that
    everyone else is buying it, and you will be buying in at the high. If you want
    to make money, buy something that is not "hot" right now. Buy stocks, buy
    real estate, but please, do not buy bullion just because everyone else is.
  • tmcsr69tmcsr69 Posts: 1,307


    << <i>Two things here baffle me:
    Why slab bullion, and why buy slabbed bullion? You will surely pay a premium.
    Why buy something that is "hot?" When something is "hot" that means that
    everyone else is buying it, and you will be buying in at the high. If you want
    to make money, buy something that is not "hot" right now. Buy stocks, buy
    real estate, but please, do not buy bullion just because everyone else is. >>



    Great thinking and advice. If you are insistent on purchasing slabbed bullion-I would stick with gold and only those items graded MS/PR70. Anything less than 70 just doesn't appreciate according the price guides I have seen.
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  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 1,039 ✭✭
    I say don't limit yourself to those two items, and dont' waste money to get them graded.

    You will have a more enjoyable collection and a lot more coins to show for the money.

  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    It's very important to know that interest in the ASE and AGE are mainly on the internet. Go to a coin show and you'll find very, very little material, and very little interest from dealers.
  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's very important to know that interest in the ASE and AGE are mainly on the internet. Go to a coin show and you'll find very, very little material, and very little interest from dealers. >>



    I'm pretty sure dealers aren't interested because of the low margins and that may explain the paucity of specimens at shows. But based on sales, these bullion "coins" are very popular among collectors and investors alike.
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