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Here's an Idea - What if the Mint Started Producing limited mintages of moderns using Pre-1836 stand

I think I'd be interested in moderns if that would happen.
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  • Arent all coin dies "hand carved", and then master hubs made of them after a trip on a reducing lathe Brandon?


  • << <i>Arent all coin dies "hand carved", and then master hubs made of them after a trip on a reducing lathe Brandon? >>



    I mean like they did in the old days like for capped bust halves. Sorry, I guess a bad choice of words.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • I would. image


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    << <i>Arent all coin dies "hand carved", and then master hubs made of them after a trip on a reducing lathe Brandon? >>



    I mean like they did in the old days like for capped bust halves. Sorry, I guess a bad choice of words. >>




    You mean hand punched with dates and stars and other minor devices once a basic working die is made? And I assume because of potential varieties?
  • Here's a version of a medal, made from hand-carved dies, that I picked up last night during the auction at the close of my local coin club's monthly meeting. The photo also shows the edge lettering and stamped serial number:

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  • << <i>I think I'd be interested in moderns if that would happen. >>



    That is really a good thought.image


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    << <i>Arent all coin dies "hand carved", and then master hubs made of them after a trip on a reducing lathe Brandon? >>



    I mean like they did in the old days like for capped bust halves. Sorry, I guess a bad choice of words. >>




    You mean hand punched with dates and stars and other minor devices once a basic working die is made? And I assume because of potential varieties? >>



    Yes, along with being produced with pre-1836 methods. image
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭
    That is a great idea Poorguy.
    That is also a really cool medal edix2001.


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    << <i>Arent all coin dies "hand carved", and then master hubs made of them after a trip on a reducing lathe Brandon? >>



    I mean like they did in the old days like for capped bust halves. Sorry, I guess a bad choice of words. >>




    You mean hand punched with dates and stars and other minor devices once a basic working die is made? And I assume because of potential varieties? >>



    Yes, along with being produced with pre-1836 methods. image >>




    As in made with a screw press? Sorry Brandon, but those days are long gone. Cant see the mint clearing out an area for the ox to sleep and poop!
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I think it would be neat but I think we are getting so far away from the original idea of collecting coins. At what point are we no longer collecting coins? They should be made for cicrulation and the challenge of finding high quality examples etc..

    If they made them high relief I might be more inclined.
  • Maybe just a limited mintage of 1000 or so pieces. I would appreciate the aesthetics of the old-time methods and this might help blend the line between moderns and classics. Produce moderns with classic hardware and standards.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com


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    << <i>Arent all coin dies "hand carved", and then master hubs made of them after a trip on a reducing lathe Brandon? >>



    I mean like they did in the old days like for capped bust halves. Sorry, I guess a bad choice of words. >>




    You mean hand punched with dates and stars and other minor devices once a basic working die is made? And I assume because of potential varieties? >>



    Yes, along with being produced with pre-1836 methods. image >>




    As in made with a screw press? Sorry Brandon, but those days are long gone. Cant see the mint clearing out an area for the ox to sleep and poop! >>



    I'm not saying drag a few oxen in there but the force applied to each die on the surface of the planchet by a screw press can be emulated by machinery giving striking pressures similar (if not precisely) to a screw press.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com


  • << <i>Maybe just a limited mintage of 1000 or so pieces. I would appreciate the aesthetics of the old-time methods and this might help blend the line between moderns and classics. Produce moderns with classic hardware and standards. >>




    Or a more realistic, and possibly more popular idea. Use modern equipment to remake classic designs on all our circulating stuff. How cool would it be to see seated dimes in circulation? The mint could start with the flowing hair design on all denominations, and every year or 2 could move on up the ladder. Now THAT would be awesome, and give me a reason to collect anything post 1938.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great idea. Since it would be very labor intensive, the US Mint could contract the work out to China.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Maybe just a limited mintage of 1000 or so pieces. I would appreciate the aesthetics of the old-time methods and this might help blend the line between moderns and classics. Produce moderns with classic hardware and standards. >>




    Or a more realistic, and possibly more popular idea. Use modern equipment to remake classic designs on all our circulating stuff. How cool would it be to see seated dimes in circulation? The mint could start with the flowing hair design on all denominations, and every year or 2 could move on up the ladder. Now THAT would be awesome, and give me a reason to collect anything post 1938. >>



    While that would be neat, where is the creativity that made those to begin with.

    I would be more for new designs based on the classic elements. The same kind of elements that created the flowing hair.
  • With a limit of 1000 pieces, the Mint would have to charge $$$$$$$$ a copy or else everyone that wanted one would have to win a lottery just to have ONE!
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Sales by lottery?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The mint isn't in the business to knowingly create rarities to enrich a few collectors.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire



  • << <i>With a limit of 1000 pieces, the Mint would have to charge $$$$$$$$ a copy or else everyone that wanted one would have to win a lottery just to have ONE!
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    Well, the idea IS to keep them rare enough to be sought after but not impossible to locate.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    I voted for "get back to work brandon"

    Adrian apparently needs to crack that whip a little harder image
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  • << <i>The mint isn't in the business to knowingly create rarities to enrich a few collectors. >>



    They used to be in the good ol' days of the 19th century until "Slick Willy" DuBois died in 1881.
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