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had an amazing trip to a new coin shop

has anyone here heard of Edelman's in Northeastern Philadelphia? Amazing inventory. Little if any cleaned coins, fairly priced and graded. Imagine that? Picked up an amazing vf35 bust dime, dark grey toned with the devices in nice contrast to the fields. The coin got better and better as I looked at it which is not usually the case with me, and was superb, no faults at 5x, no bumps, dings, spots, just even wear for the grade! Not terribly friendly, just good stuff without hassle.
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  • JohnZJohnZ Posts: 1,732
    The bust coins are some of the nicest-looking coins you can own in lower grades.

    We ARE watching you.

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1907Quarter: It's always fun & exciting to discover a new coin shop where you can find new quality material. We'd love to see a picture of your new Bust Dime find.

    Is it a Capped or a Draped Bust Dime?

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • 1832 capped bust. hopefully will be getting a scanner down the road, at which point, once I've learned how to do it, I'll be posting pics till the cows come home!
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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They have been around for along time and are great to deal with!
    Spring National Battlefield Coin Show is April 3-5, 2025 at the Eisenhower Hotel Ballroom, Gettysburg, PA. WWW.AmericasCoinShows.com
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    Interesting. This is my local coin shop as well. I've been there 4 or 5 times since I moved to the area.
    They are pretty good and I've had decent luck. I think their coins are usually priced very well for the grades.

    One knock I have is the first few times I went in there Jon (the owner) seemed like he was just far too busy
    to deal with a YN. I ask mostly intelligent questions (IMO). So I wasn't sure if it was me or not. Well, I kept
    giving him more chances because it's the only shop reasonably close to me. Stopped in one day when I was
    working nearby and it was quite hectic. Turns out I think he acts that way towards everyone. It's not that
    he's rude, he just tells it like it is. Sometimes, his few words could come across as being rude, but I've
    adjusted, realizing every dealer is different, and now that I know he recognizes me, he seems even more
    willing to help out.

    One thing that I just cannot stand, however, is he always picks up UNC pieces bare handed!!! Has anyone
    else experienced dealers that do this, and if so how did you deal with it? Did you mention it or just stop going.
    I don't want to stop going because the inventory is decent and it's convenient for me.

    Also, I thought perhaps he only did this on bullion (ASE's) because maybe he didn't care about them as a
    numismatic item. But one day I purchased a raw MS Indian Head Cent and he did the same thing. image
    Successful BST transactions:
    commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
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  • I have been there and noticed this too. I havent been there in a little while though. If he owns the coin he can touch it all he wants. If I buy it and he does it, we will be returning it on the spot.image I wear gloves.
    Theres a great dealer in Cherry Hill on 70. I forget the name of the place, but He is a great dealer and honest guy. Its a hobby shop, but he has alot of coins. I mean alot.


  • << <i>I have been there and noticed this too. I havent been there in a little while though. If he owns the coin he can touch it all he wants. If I buy it and he does it, we will be returning it on the spot.image I wear gloves.
    Theres a great dealer in Cherry Hill on 70. I forget the name of the place, but He is a great dealer and honest guy. Its a hobby shop, but he has alot of coins. I mean alot. >>



    I think that you are referring to Rich Dutkin. He was one of my favorite dealers until I recently moved to Colorado.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One thing that I just cannot stand, however, is he always picks up UNC pieces bare handed!!! Has anyone
    else experienced dealers that do this, and if so how did you deal with it? Did you mention it or just stop going. >>



    Hello-

    There is nothing inherently wrong with handling raw MS or PF coins with bare hands if you know what you are doing. It's just a matter of being careful. Rather that approaching the dealer with how "wrong" the practice may be, maybe you can ask him if it is "okay" to handle coins that way and he can use it as a teaching moment and you can learn from him.

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • Yup. He is a good one. I scored afew 56 type ones there.
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>One thing that I just cannot stand, however, is he always picks up UNC pieces bare handed!!! Has anyone
    else experienced dealers that do this, and if so how did you deal with it? Did you mention it or just stop going. >>



    Hello-

    There is nothing inherently wrong with handling raw MS or PF coins with bare hands if you know what you are doing. It's just a matter of being careful. Rather that approaching the dealer with how "wrong" the practice may be, maybe you can ask him if it is "okay" to handle coins that way and he can use it as a teaching moment and you can learn from him.

    Lane >>



    Lane, sorry if I wasn't clear in my post. It's not that he handles them with bare hands by the edges. But I've noticed him a few times just picks them up non-chalantly to place them in a plastic flip and his thumb will be touching the obverse or reverse. As if he were picking up a coin off the ground. And maybe I'm over-reacting. The pieces I've purchased have been ok and I haven't noticed any big greasy fingerprints transfer onto them. Perhaps this is because he just keeps his hands so clean all day that there's no oils. I think I've just been lucky though. I haven't said anything to him or approached him about being "wrong" because I'm still fairly new in this hobby. It's intimidating. A couple of times I thought about saying something like "Oh, I'm surprised you don't wear gloves" or something to that affect, but I haven't yet.

    If you handle MS pieces do you handle them by the edges or the face of the coin?

    Matt

    Successful BST transactions:
    commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
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  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    PS: thanks for the tip Lane. I think that's a good way to bring it up. Although I have a feeling he'll just shake his head at me, as if "of course it's ok!" image


    Ahooka- Thanks as well. I get over there every so often to the Cherry Hill area and will have to check him out!
    Successful BST transactions:
    commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
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  • << <i>Yup. He is a good one. I scored afew 56 type ones there. >>




    He is without a doubt the best B&M dealer I have ever done business with. His sell prices are great and his buy prices are more than fair. I also have a little hint for any of you that might deal with him. The coins he has in his display cases are certainly not all that he has to offer. If you are looking for something that isn't on display, just ask him for it. While Rich may not always be able to accommodate, he has plenty of other items in his safe as well as an off site warehouse.
  • I agree. Just ask and youll be amazed. Everytime I have to go back to the area, I stop by and its a coinfest. I have to go to Jersey on the 16 of April and will be stopping in to see him.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lane, sorry if I wasn't clear in my post. It's not that he handles them with bare hands by the edges. But I've noticed him a few times just picks them up non-chalantly to place them in a plastic flip and his thumb will be touching the obverse or reverse. As if he were picking up a coin off the ground. And maybe I'm over-reacting. The pieces I've purchased have been ok and I haven't noticed any big greasy fingerprints transfer onto them. Perhaps this is because he just keeps his hands so clean all day that there's no oils. I think I've just been lucky though. I haven't said anything to him or approached him about being "wrong" because I'm still fairly new in this hobby. It's intimidating. A couple of times I thought about saying something like "Oh, I'm surprised you don't wear gloves" or something to that affect, but I haven't yet.

    If you handle MS pieces do you handle them by the edges or the face of the coin?

    Matt >>



    Hi Matt-

    Ah...now I understand a bit better. I see it happen all the time. Not to be a cynic, but you are probably right that a comment or question will just lead to a "what a rookie" look from the dealer and a "I know what I am doing" type of comment. Keep in mind that many dealers do this because they just don't care and they are merchants who will not have to deal with the results of their "bad" handling. BUT, there are plenty of dealers who care and know what they are doing. Interestingly, ancient coins are usually handled this way as it does not adversely affect the coin and collectors are not nearly as obsessed with "perfect" coins as those who collect US coins.

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    Is there another name under which this company does business? There's nothing close to "Edelman's" in Philadelphia PA according to yellowpages.com.
  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭
    Would someone PLEASE bring a damn coin shop like that do the Denver metro area?!
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭


    << <i>Is there another name under which this company does business? There's nothing close to "Edelman's" in Philadelphia PA according to yellowpages.com. >>




    Correct. Some people have called it Philadelphia on here, but it's actually located in a suburb called Jenkintown, PA.

    Edelman's
    301 Old York Road
    Jenkintown, PA 19046-3284

    215-572-6480
    Successful BST transactions:
    commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
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  • <<Ahooka- Thanks as well. I get over there every so often to the Cherry Hill area and will have to check him out! >>


    Youll be happy you did. He is great.
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is there another name under which this company does business? There's nothing close to "Edelman's" in Philadelphia PA according to yellowpages.com. >>




    Correct. Some people have called it Philadelphia on here, but it's actually located in a suburb called Jenkintown, PA.

    Edelman's
    301 Old York Road
    Jenkintown, PA 19046-3284

    215-572-6480 >>



    Thanks so much Matt, and here's a bump to boost visibility for a B&M store. Those guys deserve credit for doing what they do.

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