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Are Restocking Fees a bunch of bs?

pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭
I'm not sure if it's different for a regular merchant account, but if you refund someone through Paypal, you get all the fees refunded... Is a Restocking fee legit, or just a way for a dealer to deter unnecessary returns?

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    YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    Time is money, you think this is Mexico?
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    It's a way to pay for labor which is assumed her to be free...personally, I think handling charges for routine shipping labor are reasonable but restocking fees should be absorbed. If you're getting hit with a lot of returns then you're doing something wrong. --Jerry
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No experience with it but I'm guessing a dealer has to take the time to look it over to be sure it's the same coin in the same condition. Write you a check or pay you back somehow. Log it back into inventory, etc. Shouldn't be much of a fee though otherwise it would be bs.

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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    I think a small restocking fee is reasonable. Take TT for example. It's not ridiculous for them to take a coin back, after losing money on the labor shipping it out, putting it back into inventory, taking pics, etc.

    -Paul
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Taking back returns is the cost of doing business - it shouldn't be charged to sight-unseen sales. If you accurately describe and illustrate the coin, the return rate should be low. If you hype ugly coins, you deserve to get them back.
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    percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
    Not unless you're really desperate and on the brink of financial ruin, me thinks.
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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I interpret a restocking fee to be a preemptive admission by the seller that there is a good chance that inferior or misrepresented goods will be sent to the buyer and that the threat of the restocking fee will serve as a deterrent to a valid return.
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    <<I interpret a restocking fee to be a preemptive admission by the seller that there is a good chance that inferior or misrepresented goods will be sent to the buyer and that the threat of the restocking fee will serve as a deterrent to a valid return>>




    Exactly what I was thinking.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Kinda the same as "Handling" fee's.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I interpret a restocking fee to be a preemptive admission by the seller that there is a good chance that inferior or misrepresented goods will be sent to the buyer and that the threat of the restocking fee will serve as a deterrent to a valid return. >>



    Not necessarily Tom, perhaps a restocking fee is aim at quelling "Buyers Remorse"?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    Me thinks those in favor of "restocking fees" are they themselves frequent sellers.

    Sure, time (and gas) is money, but the Vast majority of those requesting restocking fees are simply, and in my opinion, obviously, doing it solely to recoup some finances out of the annoyance of it all. Those same sellers usually have high shipping charges, too. Go ahead and check it out and post examples.

    In short, and to make to too simple, restocking fees is all a bunch of crap when it comes to coins. It's not like you have a Sam's Club for coins and it costs a lot to "restock", and even if you do, those businesses don't charge those fees anyway because of their customer service. Does Heritage? I don't think so. Does Russ? I don't think so. WAIT! WTF!? Did I just use Heritage and Russ in the same sentence? WTH?!

    For those of you that charge "restocking" fees: YOU SUCK! YOU SUCK BALLS! There. I said it.

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    << <i>Taking back returns is the cost of doing business - it shouldn't be charged to sight-unseen sales. If you accurately describe and illustrate the coin, the return rate should be low. If you hype ugly coins, you deserve to get them back. >>



    Exactly. Wut he sed.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I can help it, I won't buy from anyone with a restocking fee. Same thing for handling fee, and also the ones that have decided they are in the insurance business and self insure. Just sick and tired of being sick and tiredimage of what IMO is a bunch of shenanigans.
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    Mar327Mar327 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭
    I don't see the need for them. If you're selling an item and have a return policy, then you should expect to get things back once in awhile and it's part of business. Especially coins with questionable pictures, people need to see them in hand to decide. Suck it up!

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    RarityRarity Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭
    I do not buy coin with 15% restocking fee charge. 15% of a $1000 coin is $150 which is high in my opinion.
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    returning coins purchased at auction is a bunch of bs
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the term "restocking fee" is really just a euphemism for "if you want to return its not going to be free to you because this is not an approval service."

    I think 15% fee is outrageous.3-5% is not unreasonable in my opinion,however.

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    I agree with sinin and mr1874. When I sell a coin on ebay, and its not very often, I am not sending a coin out for you to inspect and return at your leisure. Although I have had only a single return from about 200 ebay sales, and never had a restocking fee, lets face it, im not an "approval service". Im simply a collector thining out my collection whenever I upgrade. As a buyer, remember, YOU set the final sale price, not me. If I was trying to make a living selling coins online (and thank god I dont), I would have some type of moderate restock fee just to deter those buyers who are never quite happy, no matter what. And I think you guys know what im talking about.
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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I interpret a restocking fee to be a preemptive admission by the seller that there is a good chance that inferior or misrepresented goods will be sent to the buyer and that the threat of the restocking fee will serve as a deterrent to a valid return.

    Tom absolutely nailed it. i.e. buy from me and you'll pay either way.

    Dave
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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I don't buy from dealers using restocking fees.image
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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    ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Remember SeatedKingo?? He had a 10% restock fee for a reason......as a scam to still make $$$ on returns, AND to deter returns of his junk. I would never consider a restock fee on an EBAY coin anything but ghetto tactics and a warning sign.
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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It costs the same to restock a 1985 pr67 DCAM lincoln cent as it does a high relief saint in ms65. So, yes its BS.
    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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    BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    For what it's worth, personally, I DO NOT charge restocking fees and on the rare occassion of a return I reimburse the ENTIRE amount paid .... BUT that's just Me!

    Many sellers ( not inclusive to eBay) DO CHARGE a restocking fee AND contrary to what another poster stated, Teletrade DOES charge a fee when returning coins. MOST mail order companies charge a fee. This is NOT an uncommon Business practice and there IS a Good Cause to enlist restocking fees in many cases.

    Pick up any Numismatic periodical and read the terms of sale and you will find that MANY sellers/ auctioneers DO charge this fee, for various, legitimate reasons.

    I have yet to charge to restock and I refund ALL a buyers money.image
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    At one point I had a restocking fee policy of 5% up to $5 maximum, but have since removed it.
    Trustworthy BST sellers: cucamongacoin
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would never consider a restock fee on an EBAY coin anything but ghetto tactics and a warning sign.

    Well, depends on the percentage with me. For moderately priced item, say $100 to $200, it's not unreasonable for seller to say,euphemisticly, of course, "its going to cost you about $5, in addition to return postage,if you want to return this item." I can live with that if I'm looking at a coin that has captured my imagination and I just gotta find out if it's the real deal.

    As a buyer, I understand that sellers on ebay are not in the business of being approval service for finicky collectors. It behooves the buyer to pick and deal with sellers they are comfortable with and not get caught up in unrealistic expectations about the coin(s), being offered by whoever, that have captured their imagination.

    It's kind of like going to the movies. I watch movies because of the known-by-me-good-actors in the movie not because of the "fantastic" reviews.

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