Upgradable? Update: Regrade results in...

GoldenEyeNumismatics · December 1, 2007 8:23AM

Looks like it has a shot up. Opinions?

fresh off the bay

Fresh back from NGC (yes, I send coins across the street often)...

grip · December 1, 2007 8:28AM

I dont see much luster a dip will bring out,I would leave as is.

Al

AUandAG · December 1, 2007 8:30AM

I think they were generous with the XF45. That may not grade the next time!
Hmmmmmm
bob

ricko · December 1, 2007 8:31AM

Seems dicey to me.... let us know.. Cheers, RickO

GoldenEyeNumismatics · December 1, 2007 8:35AM

<< Seems dicey to me.... let us know.. Cheers, RickO >>

I will!

GoldenEyeNumismatics · December 1, 2007 8:49AM

<< I think they were generous with the XF45. That may not grade the next time!
Hmmmmmm
bob >>

I think what you are seeing is weak strike. The coin has barely any wear. There are not breast feathers because it was struck that way.

bigmansam88 · December 1, 2007 9:11AM

I passed on it because I saw no chance for it to upgrade.

IMO the coin didn't even look like it belonged in an XF holder.

19Lyds · December 1, 2007 9:19AM

Old Hot Lips looks like she has a cold sore!

IRCWCoins · December 1, 2007 9:22AM

Dipping that any further would ruin it. It looks accurately graded in its current holder.

DJCoinz · December 1, 2007 9:29AM

I do not think that coin will upgrade...it may have a hard time getting back into a 45 holder. Good luck though.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · December 1, 2007 9:41AM

for your viewing pleasure
less luster than the one I bought
one more

AngryTurtle · December 1, 2007 10:11AM

Soap and water wash would be the first thing I would try. Has the same look of a Peace Dollar I have that I think only needs a bath. Have not treied it yet, so dont know the results, but should not hurt.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · December 1, 2007 12:37PM

<< Soap and water wash would be the first thing I would try. Has the same look of a Peace Dollar I have that I think only needs a bath. Have not treied it yet, so dont know the results, but should not hurt. >>

I never use soap and water. It would imagine it requires rubbing the coin, which would cause hairlines.

Diluted dip in eZest would be best.

commoncents05 · December 1, 2007 12:40PM

Any non-MS coin that is dipped end up looking like crap. I wouldn't mess with it.

-Paul

Connecticoin · December 1, 2007 12:43PM

<< I think they were generous with the XF45. That may not grade the next time!
Hmmmmmm
bob >>

Agreed. On a crackout and regrade, a 40 or a bodybag appear more likely than an upgrade.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 11, 2008 10:32AM

ttt

AUandAG · February 11, 2008 10:35AM

Congrats and I'll eat my words....Just shows what you see when it's in hand and not just a pic, no matter
how good the pic is! AU anything is awesome!
bob

Rampage · February 11, 2008 10:39AM

Congratulations! I remember that coin from eBay and had forgotten to bid on it. I currently own two XF45 PCGS Hot Lips.

So, what is the price differential between an XF45 PCGS and an AU50 NGC coin?

tightbudget · February 11, 2008 10:40AM

Congrats!

smokincoin · February 11, 2008 10:41AM

You downgraded TPGs so the coin hasn't been upgraded!!!

Russ · February 11, 2008 10:49AM

<< So, what is the price differential between an XF45 PCGS and an AU50 NGC coin? >>

I was just wondering that myself. I have a hunch that the answer is "not much".

Russ, NCNE

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 11, 2008 10:53AM

<< 

<< So, what is the price differential between an XF45 PCGS and an AU50 NGC coin? >>

I was just wondering that myself. I have a hunch that the answer is "not much".

Russ, NCNE >>

The most recent AU50 (graded by NGC) to sell on Heritage went for about $1100.

Russ · February 11, 2008 10:56AM

<< << So, what is the price differential between an XF45 PCGS and an AU50 NGC coin? >>

I was just wondering that myself. I have a hunch that the answer is "not much".

Russ, NCNE >>

The most recent AU50 (graded by NGC) to sell on Heritage went for about $1100. >>

Well, that begs the question - who got screwed? The eBay seller where you picked off the coin, or the Heritage buyer?

Russ, NCNE

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 11, 2008 11:04AM

<< 

<< << So, what is the price differential between an XF45 PCGS and an AU50 NGC coin? >>

I was just wondering that myself. I have a hunch that the answer is "not much".

Russ, NCNE >>

The most recent AU50 (graded by NGC) to sell on Heritage went for about $1100. >>

Well, that begs the question - who got screwed? The eBay seller where you picked off the coin, or the Heritage buyer?

Russ, NCNE >>

It was the first AU50 to sell on Heritage in about around 6 months. The last AU50 (also NGC), which was a real turd of a coin, sold for a little over $800 in mid 2007. A PCGS AU50 sold in January 2007 for $920.

No one got screwed. Knowledge is power.

CoinKing1969 · February 11, 2008 12:09PM

<< 

<< 

<< << So, what is the price differential between an XF45 PCGS and an AU50 NGC coin? >>

I was just wondering that myself. I have a hunch that the answer is "not much".

Russ, NCNE >>

The most recent AU50 (graded by NGC) to sell on Heritage went for about $1100. >>

Well, that begs the question - who got screwed? The eBay seller where you picked off the coin, or the Heritage buyer?

Russ, NCNE >>

It was the first AU50 to sell on Heritage in about around 6 months. The last AU50 (also NGC), which was a real turd of a coin, sold for a little over $800 in mid 2007. A PCGS AU50 sold in January 2007 for $920.

No one got screwed. Knowledge is power. >>

Buy the coin, not the slab

Nice coin N.E.G.

cupronik · February 11, 2008 12:37PM

Now submit the coin to PCGS via crossover. Only "risk" is the grading & postage fees.

DJCoinz · February 11, 2008 1:11PM

Wow, didn't see that coming. Very nice Goldeneye.

DennisH · February 11, 2008 1:55PM

XF45 and AU50 is a pretty significant price break point, although I'm on the road at the moment and don't have my price data to give you hard numbers.

Monstavet · February 11, 2008 2:35PM

Seems to me the original seller said 'would go AU in another TPG holder' Guess he was right. Same coin, two different holders, $700 price difference...says a lot about our hobby.

But good score for you!

BECOKA · February 12, 2008 4:41AM

Good eye.

dorkkarl · February 12, 2008 5:16AM

so 1st it was overgrade by pcgs, later it was overgraded even more by ngc

what exactly did we learn here?

K S

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 12, 2008 5:19AM

<< so 1st it was overgrade by pcgs, later it was overgraded even more by ngc

what exactly did we learn here?

K S >>

The coin is properly graded as an AU50. What about it leads to you the "overgraded" conclusion?

doh · February 12, 2008 5:23AM

<< You downgraded TPGs so the coin hasn't been upgraded!!! >>

I'm glad you got an upgrade and all, but IMHO, all you're gonna do is pass on an overgraded coin to whomever you sell it to.

Wolf359 · February 12, 2008 8:23AM

Well done.

BlindedByEgo · February 12, 2008 8:55AM

<< 

<< so 1st it was overgrade by pcgs, later it was overgraded even more by ngc

what exactly did we learn here?

K S >>

The coin is properly graded as an AU50. What about it leads to you the "overgraded" conclusion? >>

His hatred of plastic

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