Is the "you-grade" system of ebay auctions unethical if the coin has issues?

GoldenEyeNumismatics · January 28, 2008 11:42AM

Issues that aren't easily detected in the photo?

Fairlaneman · January 28, 2008 11:46AM

"you grade" is crap and the sellers know it. You struck a nerve with this one.....

Ken

seateddime · January 28, 2008 11:49AM

ebay is buyer beware,

I used to send back 50% of what I bought, now I eat a lot of crap and buy 10% of what I used to

tightbudget · January 28, 2008 11:49AM

Usually. It's a way of sellers not admitting the coin has problems. I think most sellers say "you grade it" in an attempt that someone might buy it as a problem free coin.

fc · January 28, 2008 11:50AM

i do not mind "you grade" with good photos.
bad photos of coins with no descriptions i simply pass by.
so many other auctions to take a chance at then to gamble
on a sure loser :-|

ArizonaJack · January 28, 2008 11:51AM

not really, unless you make a habit of selling problem coins or ANACS crackouts, i tend to ignore any sellers grade and grade for myself, that includes plastic covered coins

ArizonaJack · January 28, 2008 11:52AM

<< <i>i do not mind "you grade" with good photos.
bad photos of coins with no descriptions i simply pass by.
so many other auctions to take a chance at then to gamble
on a sure loser :-| >>

YEP !!!

GoldenEyeNumismatics · January 28, 2008 3:57PM

ttt

BECOKA · January 28, 2008 4:01PM

80% of them are people who look like they have a clue as to the trouble their coin is by the words they use. They think everyone is a moron and will bid their item to the moon and back with a photo take from the moon.

I think it is wrong for dealers to do this but for the rare honest person selling part of a family collection it's ok. It's just getting harder to tell the truthful ones from the big fat liars.

jamakin · January 28, 2008 4:07PM

buying coins by photo is a dicey game.
Most sane people bid accordingly , and a small ever changing , seemingly inexhaustible pool of delusional foolish bidders chase their dream. I think most people fall into both catagories at some time.

ArizonaJack · January 28, 2008 4:08PM

Is THIS considered misleading?

Not being sarcastic, an actual question.....

BlindedByEgo · January 28, 2008 4:25PM

<< <i>Is THIS considered misleading?

Not being sarcastic, an actual question..... >>

I think that the photos speak volumes.

OKbustchaser · January 28, 2008 9:38PM

No, "You grade" should be used for ALL coin purchases--yes, even those in so-called "blessed" plastic. If you are the one buying it you should be the one grading it.

OKbustchaser · January 28, 2008 9:44PM

<< <i>Is THIS considered misleading?

Not being sarcastic, an actual question..... >>

What is mis-leading about it? He shows several high quality (for ebay at least) pics of a corroded mid-grade cent. Admittedly, he does call it high-grade rather than the mid-grade I think it is but that is normal for ebay sellers.

UtahCoin · January 28, 2008 10:04PM

I ebay'd a 1877 IHC a couple of years ago that had been beat to death, then 1/2 of it was cut away. Listed it as "Former Mint State example"

dsessom · January 28, 2008 11:18PM

I don't think anything is wrong with the "You Grade" system as long as the scans/photos are good. If the photos are too bad to make a judgement on grade, I don't even bid.
Likewise, I conduct my Ebay sales the same way, providing the best photos I can so potential bidders can clearly see what they are bidding on. I only buy from sellers with 99% or better rating and have had good luck with it so far.
I personally prefer buying raw coins for a lesser amount than the premium that you will pay for pre-slabbed coins. If you know what you are doing (and most of you here do), you can make money this way IMHO.

ricko · January 28, 2008 11:47PM

Not a problem.... if you CAN grade, and if the photo IS good OR the return policy is good.... combined with seller feedback. Caveat Emptor... Cheers, RickO

jdillane · January 29, 2008 2:57AM

<< <i>Is THIS considered misleading?

Not being sarcastic, an actual question..... >>

I have no problems with this auction. Sure there is a little puffery but that is a seller's prerogative.

messydesk · January 29, 2008 3:14AM

That depends on if you're disguising or disclosing the issues. I almost never put a grade on raw coins, but I will say if there's a problem that's not glaringly evident from the photo, including slight wear on a high grade AU coin. I figure if I grade the coin, I've established an upper limit on what a potential buyer thinks about it.

Is the "you-grade" system of ebay auctions unethical if the coin has issues?

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