Nobody here has said a find like that cannot happen, but the facts point to it not being. First how it was found is suspect. Second the fact that you went out and WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FIND 20 reprints of the same card is suspect. Third you don't want to mail the card because you already know PSA will say its fake.
I will say it now. IMHO you bought the 20 reprints and doctored this one to look real by erasing the reprint and then tried to come here and show it off as real to see if it would fool us before trying to pass it off as real on Ebay or something.
This is the first card I have ever had to be grade I know nothing about the shipping security.If you had it would you ship it or take it there personally?
Can someone pull up the guide to spotting fake 52 Topps Mantles, and prove to this gentleman that the word reprint does not need to be printed on the card?
And can we start calling this card what it is? Counterfeit. You do realize that if you try to sell this card to someone in another state, it is a federal crime, and will be investigated on by the FBI? They take this sort of thing VERY seriously.
Also most of us are as good or better than PSA at uncovering fraud. Last time I checked there is not a college degree program for it. If you will look here when they were hiring new graders one of the first places they came looking was right here on these very boards.
<< <i>This is the first card I have ever had to be grade I know nothing about the shipping security.If you had it would you ship it or take it there personally? >>
I would save your money and focus on your resale empire.
I bought the reprints off of e-bay I dint just find them but you know what.I came here for help and get a bunch of egotistical idiots so what a joke you guys have turned out to be, thanks for nothing .
<< <i>I bought the reprints off of e-bay I dint just find them but you know what.I came here for help and get a bunch of egotistical idiots so what a joke you guys have turned out to be, thanks for nothing . >>
<< <i>I bought the reprints off of e-bay I dint just find them but you know what.I came here for help and get a bunch of egotistical idiots so what a joke you guys have turned out to be, thanks for nothing . >>
I bought the reprints off of e-bay I dint just find them but you know what.I came here for help and get a bunch of egotistical idiots so what a joke you guys have turned out to be, thanks for nothing .
Thanks that helps. TO PROVE ITS REAL. Mine has none of the things they have pointed out. Like I said Im not an expert but I will be taking it to psa.If indeed it is real then I will be calling myself an expert over at least twenty so called experts on here.
<< <i>Thanks that helps. TO PROVE ITS REAL. Mine has none of the things they have pointed out. Like I said Im not an expert but I will be taking it to psa.If indeed it is real then I will be calling myself an expert over at least twenty so called experts on here. >>
And if it is a reprint?
Edited to add: Will you videotape yourself eating it and post the video here if it is a reprint?
Well without a REAL photo its still hard to tell, which you obviously are incapable of understanding that. How can anyone give a true opinion with a photo like you provided?
I find it funny though you claim you bought the reprints on Ebay, but most of the reprints sold on Ebay are in alot better shape than the one you show. It would seem if you were just buying reprints on Ebay tou would take the better shape ones.
For those who think we were too hard on this gentleman, if someone has the link to the actual "find" that was first discovered on the net54 boards, please post it here. Notice the difference in attitude between that Lucky Gentleman and the one who posted here.
Wheee, I always miss all the action. Just got in and read about 4 pages to see what was going on (I think maybe the first entry was enough).
Oh, did I mention that when I was out, I came across a pretty old card with some guy holding a wooden stick and a silly hat when I was tossing my Yoo Hoo bottle in the trash at the gas station. It looked like his name was "Even Game/Lace Up/Cravat/Traverse Timber/Secure" Cobb or something like that. I'm more of an American Gladiator kind of guy and since he looked so wussy like and everything, in went the Yoo Hoo bottle and the Slim Jim wrappers on top.
<< <i> Oh, did I mention that when I was out, I came across a pretty old card with some guy holding a wooden stick and a silly hat when I was tossing my Yoo Hoo bottle in the trash at the gas station. It looked like his name was "Even Game/Lace Up/Cravat/Traverse Timber/Secure" Cobb or something like that. I'm more of an American Gladiator kind of guy and since he looked so wussy like and everything, in went the Yoo Hoo bottle and the Slim Jim wrappers on top. >>
Hey - Good luck on your school alphabet tests coming up. I remember those q's used to give me trouble. I still can't figure out why the letter u almost always seems to follow the letter q?
The first ones I bought out of St .Louis were old and faded.I have since bought gem mint 10 reprints.The foot worries me but everything else matches.When I researched them one year showed more of the foot than the other and they were originals.So i guess I will ship it out Fed -EX and take my chances.thanks for all the sincere input.
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<< <i>Uh let me think. YESSSSSSSSSSSSS you dont work for psa so wheres your credintials.You know the one in cracker jacks dont count >>
You found Cracker Jacks in the dumpster too? Any Matty's, Wagner's, or Cobb's?
I will say it now. IMHO you bought the 20 reprints and doctored this one to look real by erasing the reprint and then tried to come here and show it off as real to see if it would fool us before trying to pass it off as real on Ebay or something.
but it was eaten
And can we start calling this card what it is? Counterfeit. You do realize that if you try to sell this card to someone in another state, it is a federal crime, and will be investigated on by the FBI? They take this sort of thing VERY seriously.
<< <i>This is the first card I have ever had to be grade I know nothing about the shipping security.If you had it would you ship it or take it there personally? >>
I would save your money and focus on your resale empire.
Spotting Fake M101-4/5 Sporting News Cards
<< <i>Also most of us are as good or better than PSA at uncovering fraud. >>
Ripken in the Minors * Ripken in the Minors Facebook Page
<< <i>SMITTY, READ THIS!
Spotting Fake M101-4/5 Sporting News Cards >>
Nice. So what exactly does that say for the average group of halfway-knowledgable collectors vs. an infallible grading company?
<< <i>I bought the reprints off of e-bay I dint just find them but you know what.I came here for help and get a bunch of egotistical idiots so what a joke you guys have turned out to be, thanks for nothing . >>
Here's your help, Smitty.
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<< <i>SMITTY, READ THIS!
Spotting Fake M101-4/5 Sporting News Cards >>
<< <i>I bought the reprints off of e-bay I dint just find them but you know what.I came here for help and get a bunch of egotistical idiots so what a joke you guys have turned out to be, thanks for nothing . >>
No problem buddy.
Imagine that this one must be real too.
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I am on to something on Ebay.. Give me a few minutes and I may have some real good dirt.
<< <i>Thanks that helps. TO PROVE ITS REAL. Mine has none of the things they have pointed out. Like I said Im not an expert but I will be taking it to psa.If indeed it is real then I will be calling myself an expert over at least twenty so called experts on here. >>
And if it is a reprint?
Edited to add: Will you videotape yourself eating it and post the video here if it is a reprint?
I find it funny though you claim you bought the reprints on Ebay, but most of the reprints sold on Ebay are in alot better shape than the one you show. It would seem if you were just buying reprints on Ebay tou would take the better shape ones.
<< <i>Here's your proof, your card side by side with the real example.
OWNED!
Steve
<< <i>Here's your proof, your card side by side with the real example.
<< <i>Ill be sick and appoligize to everyone on here but if its real they can kiss my ...well I think you know >>
Dude,
No need to apologize. You've provided quite a bit of entertainment for us here this evening. Thanks!
Here is a PSA7 with the foot clearly showing.
Thanks for the entertainment Smitty.
<< <i>I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Smitty again. >>
We better, he owes me a video.
Golden Rule, folks.
Steve
<< <i>My comment was sardonic.
Steve >>
Like the fish?
<< <i>My comment was sardonic.
Steve >>
Main Entry:
sar·don·ic
Pronunciation:
sär-ˈdä-nik
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
French sardonique, from Greek sardonios
Date:
1638
: disdainfully or skeptically humorous : derisively mocking <a sardonic comment>
synonyms see sarcastic
Oh, did I mention that when I was out, I came across a pretty old card with some guy holding a wooden stick and a silly hat when I was tossing my Yoo Hoo bottle in the trash at the gas station. It looked like his name was "Even Game/Lace Up/Cravat/Traverse Timber/Secure" Cobb or something like that. I'm more of an American Gladiator kind of guy and since he looked so wussy like and everything, in went the Yoo Hoo bottle and the Slim Jim wrappers on top.
<< <i> Oh, did I mention that when I was out, I came across a pretty old card with some guy holding a wooden stick and a silly hat when I was tossing my Yoo Hoo bottle in the trash at the gas station. It looked like his name was "Even Game/Lace Up/Cravat/Traverse Timber/Secure" Cobb or something like that. I'm more of an American Gladiator kind of guy and since he looked so wussy like and everything, in went the Yoo Hoo bottle and the Slim Jim wrappers on top. >>
How sardonic of you.
Steve
<< <i>So, besides being a pawn shop owner he is also a flag raiser?
Steve >>
<< <i>
How Sardinia of you.
<< <i>The foot worries me but everything else matches. >>
Sorry, big guy
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