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POLL: AT or NT?
Dave99B
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Could those spots on the obverse indicate AT?
Are the colors too electric?
Curious.
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Hoard the keys.
Well, just Love coins, period.
My opinion of course.
Interestingly, the people who are more sure are deadlocked, 16 to 16, as of my voting.
I dunno if it's AT or NT, but it's definitely WT. Really weird toning.
The colors are kind of nice but the "sneeze spots" do nothing for me.
I wouldn't call it attractive and I wouldn't call it hideous, personally... just weird. And interesting.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
I am not a Peace collector but I believe I heard somewhere on here that Peace dollars do not tone...but I guess there are exceptions to the rule!
Still split right down the middle.
A piece of garbage? Well, if that's what you consider garbage, lemme know where you put your cans out on the curb, will you?
Like I said before, I personally neither love it nor hate it. I just find it strange. It has both attractive AND ugly aspects to it. Weird coin.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Well, just Love coins, period.
–John Adams, 1826
<< <i>Cooked halo effect is AT, have seen it before & the cause is what is at issue. >>
Right you are! I can't believe the results of this poll.
Looks like the doctors are still going to be in business for a long time if this poor example has fooled so many.
I know the cause, I've produced it before and can replicate it time and again.
I've got a handful of much better looking examples and I know they are AT as I did them myself while experimenting.
The rays area in the tiara, 12 o'clock high are the first to begin turning and that is nearly always the color that shows first.
First a yellow/gold color, then shades of blue and violet begin to fill in and around it.
If you mean "cooked" as a reference to heat, I don't know about that. Cooked as in a sulfur based agent is what I'm referring to.
If the coin had been dipped or at least had an acetone bath first, the white/untoned spots probably wouldn't be there.
The outrage against the coin doctors and AT'd coins seems to be a mile wide, but only a quarter inch deep.
Peace Dollars don't tone like this naturally or from an envelope or an album.
This would be a body bag at PCGS and hopefully at NGC.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
Dave
I have seen so many AT Ikes my attitude is AT unless clearly NT. I see only one characteristic clearly in favor of NT on this Peace Dollar, the relatively un-toned reverse, and that's not enough for me to vote NT. Rob
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I would add that the reason for this can be found in The Morgan and Peace Dollar Textbook by Wayne Miller. Even if this coin spent many decades in a mint bag,obverse next to the cloth, it wouldn't look like this.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
<< <i>If you ever dipped a coin that heavily toned, it would come out a creamy powderly look >>
Well, if your intent is to AT it, you dip it first, or at least clean it with an acetone bath.
I dunno though, I've dipped coins that had toned/turned virtually black and had them slabbed with a nice cartwheel luster in MS grades.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff