PCGS First Strike for half dollars
jessewvu
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Does PCGS offer the First Strike designation on all US Mint coins within the first 30 days of first sale or do they pick and choose which coins they will give the First Strike Designation for. I was wondering about getting a first strike designation on the three Bald eagle coins coming out next week, the $5 gold, $1 silver, and clad half dollar...
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<< <i>i think its only on bullion, not commems >>
They also offered the First StrikeSM designation on the Presidential Proofs. I believe that is the only non-bullion coin they have offered the designation for. PCGS does classify the First Spouse coins as gold commemoratives and does offer the First StrikeSM designation on them.
does the so called first strike bring more money? i can't see any logic in building a set..............course that's
just me.
<< <i>does the so called first strike bring more money? i can't see any logic in building a set..............course that's
just me.
I like them, and I suppose the collectors that pay big money for them do to. But that's just me
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In addition, the last time I checked, isn't the mint making a whole lot of commemorative coins now-a-days? It doesn't take a Harvard business grad to realize there is a lot of money to be made by charging $10 for a .01 cent color label.
PCGS screams consistency in their grades but they are not very consistent at all in their business practices. JMHO
<< <i>does the so called first strike bring more money? i can't see any logic in building a set..............course that's
just me.
Some are willing to pay more just for the label since a coin that is minted all year long (i.e. SAE's in BS and Proof) only wualify for the label during the first 30 days of release. Thta means that there are potentially less of the First Strike slabs than regular BS slabs.
Yes, I have First Strike™ SAE's and I like em.
Well.........the ones with the milk spots really suck but the clean ones are cool!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Why not? What are they protecting by not giving the first strike designation on all US Mint coins? How is one coin more deserving of it than another? You would think it people were willing to pay for it, why not? >>
In order for a coin to qualify for First Strike™ means I cannot open the package from the mint ...meaning that I am NOT allowed to look at the coins I have just recieved and purchased and they must be submitted at some given time etc... or whatever..
The mint has issued a time disclaimer for these coins of their mintage.Only shipping matters........Sooooo........!!!!!....ask yourself ?!?!?!
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<< <i>Why not? What are they protecting by not giving the first strike designation on all US Mint coins? How is one coin more deserving of it than another? You would think it people were willing to pay for it, why not? >>
In order for a coin to qualify for First Strike� means I cannot open the package from the mint ...meaning that I am NOT allowed to look at the coins I have just recieved and purchased and they must be submitted at some given time etc... or whatever..
The mint has issued a time disclaimer for these coins of their mintage.Only shipping matters........Sooooo........!!!!!....ask yourself ?!?!?! >>
Not exactly correct on all points. For most issues, you can pre-screen your coins as long as they are postmarked to PCGS by the First StrikeSM cutoff and they will still be eligible for the First StikeSM designation. The anniversary sets are the exception since they contain a coin that was released earlier in the year and in order to qualify for the First StrikeSM anniversary designation on the anniversary set coin it must be in a sealed set since it can be switched with the one released earlier in the year by the Mint.
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<< <i>i think its only on bullion, not commems >>
They also offered the First StrikeSM designation on the Presidential Proofs. I believe that is the only non-bullion coin they have offered the designation for. PCGS does classify the First Spouse coins as gold commemoratives and does offer the First StrikeSM designation on them. >>
I really wish that PCGS would do the right thing and pull these out of the commemorative series for the rgistry. They really are nothing more than bullion, akin to the Gold Buffaloes...
We go along for 20 years and get a gold commemorative or two every year (sometimes skip a year), and keeping up with the series and registry is doable for the average collector. Now PCGS lumps these bullion coins in the mix and very few can ever hope to complete the gold commemorative series.
JMHO
<< <i>Why not? What are they protecting by not giving the first strike designation on all US Mint coins? How is one coin more deserving of it than another? You would think it people were willing to pay for it, why not?
In addition, the last time I checked, isn't the mint making a whole lot of commemorative coins now-a-days? It doesn't take a Harvard business grad to realize there is a lot of money to be made by charging $10 for a .01 cent color label.
PCGS screams consistency in their grades but they are not very consistent at all in their business practices. JMHO >>
What??????? (4) Commemorative quarters per year, (4) First Hag coins that get lumped into the commemorative program, (1) Gold Buffalo that commemorates and earlier coin design, the actual commemorative coin program that puts out 3-6 coins per year. Seem like a ton of commemorative overload to me.
OH BTW, lets not forget every piece of circulating coinage that commeorates soem long dead president.
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<< <i>i think its only on bullion, not commems >>
They also offered the First StrikeSM designation on the Presidential Proofs. I believe that is the only non-bullion coin they have offered the designation for. PCGS does classify the First Spouse coins as gold commemoratives and does offer the First StrikeSM designation on them. >>
I really wish that PCGS would do the right thing and pull these out of the commemorative series for the rgistry. They really are nothing more than bullion, akin to the Gold Buffaloes...
We go along for 20 years and get a gold commemorative or two every year (sometimes skip a year), and keeping up with the series and registry is doable for the average collector. Now PCGS lumps these bullion coins in the mix and very few can ever hope to complete the gold commemorative series.
JMHO >>
For the Registry, PCGS does list the First Spouse issues under gold bullion, the same as the Buffalo's and they are not part of the modern gold commemorative Registry set however in the population report they are listed together with the gold commemoratives
Now I have to shower for even typing that slop........
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<< <i>i think its only on bullion, not commems >>
They also offered the First StrikeSM designation on the Presidential Proofs. I believe that is the only non-bullion coin they have offered the designation for. PCGS does classify the First Spouse coins as gold commemoratives and does offer the First StrikeSM designation on them. >>
I really wish that PCGS would do the right thing and pull these out of the commemorative series for the rgistry. They really are nothing more than bullion, akin to the Gold Buffaloes...
We go along for 20 years and get a gold commemorative or two every year (sometimes skip a year), and keeping up with the series and registry is doable for the average collector. Now PCGS lumps these bullion coins in the mix and very few can ever hope to complete the gold commemorative series.
JMHO >>
For the Registry, PCGS does list the First Spouse issues under gold bullion, the same as the Buffalo's and they are not part of the modern gold commemorative Registry set however in the population report they are listed together with the gold commemoratives >>
They are also listed in the price guides in the commemorative section. PCGS is keeping these cousins so close that it would be illegal in some states.
I am a vocal supporter of PCGS, and ALL of my coins are in PCGS holders. However, I continue to object to the misuse of the term "First Strike."
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Sunnywood
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Seems like only yesterday (well, 12/19) that you said you were getting out of coins and selling them all off?
Cool if you got back into them...just seemed like a quick in and out
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Maybe you can help me to understand this, because obviously I must be missing something ... why do you like them, when they aren't necessarily "first strikes" from from the dies, and in fact you have no idea what percentager of the total mintage might have been struck prior to the release period. Why does this "early release" mean anything to you, when there is no actual difference in the coins themselves?
Best,
Sunnywood
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I also do not understand why people "like" the First Strikes when we all know they are only first releases and have nothing to do with actual first strikes off of a set a dies.
Perhaps people like the holder insert, go figure.
I continue to advise people not to pay a premium for a First Strike coin - I'll stick to that forever.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!