If Orlando Cepada is in the HOF, isn't Frank Thomas a shoe-in?

jmbkb4 · January 1, 2008 9:13AM

Please discuss.

Would appreciate all input from the studs on this board.

shagrotn77 · January 1, 2008 9:15AM

Frank Thomas is a HOF'er on his own merit. No need to compare him to anyone else.

msassin · January 1, 2008 9:31AM

<< Frank Thomas is a HOF'er on his own merit. No need to compare him to anyone else. >>

Agreed.

WinPitcher · January 1, 2008 9:48AM

I agree.

Steve

rajah424 · January 1, 2008 9:57AM

Can't make any decisions until Cansecos' new book comes out.

easydoesit · January 1, 2008 10:08AM

If Thomas is never named in any steroid case he is a definite. If so, then he may go the way of Palmiero.

oaktown · January 1, 2008 10:19AM

<< Frank Thomas is a HOF'er on his own merit. No need to compare him to anyone else. >>

BobaFett72 · January 1, 2008 10:23AM

He is a lock unless some sort of 'roids scandal comes out.

TomGshotput · January 1, 2008 10:27AM

No

Frank Thomas deserves to be in the Hall-of-Fame because he is a great player, not because of how he compares to drug users

TJMAC · January 1, 2008 10:30AM

I would be pretty surprised if Thomas is named. Though, I was also surprised by some names on the Mitchell report. That being said, I know Thomas has been critical of steroids and the shadow they caste over the game.

Thomas is a no brainer for me, he meets both the benchmark numbers (500 homers) and was the dominant player in the game in the early 1990's.

ripkenintheminors · January 1, 2008 10:47AM

<< 

<< Frank Thomas is a HOF'er on his own merit. No need to compare him to anyone else. >>

Agreed. >>

jmbkb4 · January 1, 2008 10:58AM

thanks for the input.

I agree, too.

kingraider75 · January 1, 2008 11:29AM

The Hall is now going to be very difficult. I guess we should go back to the All Star appearances type of thing. Was he the best at this position over his career type of discussion. Palmeiro was never really that great in any given year, he just kept going and going.

RonBurgundy · January 1, 2008 11:37PM

I'm not sure one correlates to the other. Thomas is in on his own merit.

Ron

mikeschmidt · January 1, 2008 11:42PM

The Hall of Fame becomes a slippery slope if you consider new candidates upon the basis of presently-elected, but very weak candidates.

Estil · January 2, 2008 12:48AM

500 HRs. Nuff said.

jmbkb4 · January 2, 2008 12:49AM

<< 500 HRs. Nuff said. >>

not no more.

Estil · January 2, 2008 12:56AM

Not counting the 'roids guys I mean.

jmbkb4 · January 2, 2008 1:06AM

hopefully

perkdog · January 2, 2008 1:30AM

IMO we might see a bunch of guys make the Hall now, especially after this Mitchell report. Hopefully guys like Hodges, Rice ect.. will get in now!

BobaFett72 · January 2, 2008 1:57AM

500 is still a magic number for the Non Juicers. Frank Thomas, Jim Thome. they are LOCKS

RonBurgundy · January 2, 2008 3:19AM

Correct. The comments of the ESPN baseball nabobs notwithstanding, 500 is still a hallowed mark anyway. Most of the juicers are closer to or above 600 and they can clearly be seen - Bonds, Mac, Palmeiro, Suser, etc. - without reference to 500 HR's. Take those clowns away and all the rest above 500 deserve induction, as will Man Ram when he gets there next year.

Ron

jmbkb4 · January 2, 2008 3:23AM

<< Correct. The comments of the ESPN baseball nabobs notwithstanding, 500 is still a hallowed mark anyway. Most of the juicers are closer to or above 600 and they can clearly be seen - Bonds, Mac, Palmeiro, Suser, etc. - without reference to 500 HR's. Take those clowns away and all the rest above 500 deserve induction, as will Man Ram when he gets there next year.

Ron >>

Who's Suser???

Aha, Sosa!!

and5zac · January 2, 2008 5:42AM

I think Thomas is a lock if no surprises come up.Do you think a guy like Goose Gossage will get in even though he cusses the sports writers (I think deservedly so)when they dont vote for guys like him & Rice and Blyleven.

Tedw9 · January 2, 2008 6:31AM

The whole steriod thing makes me appreciate what guys like Thomas have done over his career. He should be a lock for the HOF.

Now imagine a healthy Ken Griffey Jr. over his whole career....his numbers would be incredible. Because of all this crap lately, I appreciate what Griffey did a whole lot more.

jmbkb4 · January 2, 2008 6:33AM

<< The whole steriod thing makes me appreciate what guys like Thomas have done over his career. He should be a lock for the HOF.

Now imagine a healthy Ken Griffey Jr. over his whole career....his numbers would be incredible. Because of all this crap lately, I appreciate what Griffey did a whole lot more. >>

so true. I respect both these guys. I remember following them on the Beckett "Hot List" when I was a kid. For like 2 years, Thomas was #1 and Griffey was #2.

such a good time.

Tabe · January 2, 2008 7:43AM

<< IMO we might see a bunch of guys make the Hall now, especially after this Mitchell report. Hopefully guys like Hodges, Rice ect.. will get in now! >>

How does Palmeiro & Roger Clemens being named as steroid users somehow make a borderline candidate from 40 years ago, like Gil Hodges, HOF-worthy? It's not like somebody being named as a roid user magically adds 75 HRs to Gil's total...

Tabe

Estil · January 2, 2008 1:42PM

<< The whole steriod thing makes me appreciate what guys like Thomas have done over his career. He should be a lock for the HOF.

Now imagine a healthy Ken Griffey Jr. over his whole career....his numbers would be incredible. Because of all this crap lately, I appreciate what Griffey did a whole lot more. >>

The same could be said for Mickey Mantle. Didn't he too have problems with his legs or something during his career that had he not had them, could've been even greater?

Estil · January 2, 2008 1:43PM

<< 
so true. I respect both these guys. I remember following them on the Beckett "Hot List" when I was a kid. For like 2 years, Thomas was #1 and Griffey was #2.

such a good time. >>

Actually, Thomas was #1 Hot for 34 straight months.

jmbkb4 · January 3, 2008 12:00AM

<< 

<< 
so true. I respect both these guys. I remember following them on the Beckett "Hot List" when I was a kid. For like 2 years, Thomas was #1 and Griffey was #2.

such a good time. >>

Actually, Thomas was #1 Hot for 34 straight months. >>

bigfische · January 3, 2008 1:43AM

<< 

<< IMO we might see a bunch of guys make the Hall now, especially after this Mitchell report. Hopefully guys like Hodges, Rice ect.. will get in now! >>

How does Palmeiro & Roger Clemens being named as steroid users somehow make a borderline candidate from 40 years ago, like Gil Hodges, HOF-worthy? It's not like somebody being named as a roid user magically adds 75 HRs to Gil's total...

Tabe >>

i dont think it will help guys that have been on the block for a long itme much from that era. Its not like their stats have improved since they retired 30-40 years ago.

If Orlando Cepada is in the HOF, isn't Frank Thomas a shoe-in?

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