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Help from the boards Ebay seller problem...what a snake

I won a ebay auction for a somewhat rare card, it is a numbered card with only one with that number. Than made my payment using Paypal. After 2 1/2 weeks of waiting for the card to show up in the mail. I sent a email to the seller asking for the date he sent the card out and any tracking info if he may have. Another couple of days and no card and no answer to my email. I than went to paypal and opened a dispute for not receiving the card. In the dispute I claimed that the seller would not answer emails and provide any tracking for the card's delivery. I also said all of my card purchases are sent to my P.O. Box and I have never had anything not arrive so far, lost or stolen. Well the seller never responded to paypal and I escalated the dispute to a claim. Still with no answers from the seller and I was refunded my money from paypal. I have not left feedback for this seller so far... And I think he still can leave feedback for me. The real reason I'm posting this is due to the fact on my favorite searches on ebay I received a email this morning letting me know some new auction matched my favorite search. It was the same card I won over 6 weeks ago. being sold by the same seller. I check his feedback negatives and one person claimed they paid for a card and never received it. than seen the seller place the same card up for sale a week later. What should I do... What would you do. Thanks Paul

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    Good Morning,
    One Word: NEG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
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    If I send a neg. his way than I will also recieve on as well... He has proved that is what he has done in the past. I also would like to get the card... May use my friend to bid on the auction one more time? we will see. Paul
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    If you won it under an ID that you only use to buy cards definitely neg him. The neg hurts sellers a lot worse than it does people that only buy. If you really want to be an a-hole, you can create anothr ID, snipe the auction, not pay for it then neg him again.
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    samspopsamspop Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭
    Give him a negative. Feel free to share the seller's name with board memebers so we can avoid his/her auctions, as well.
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    262Runner262Runner Posts: 606 ✭✭✭
    You have to leave him a Neg. I believe since you won the claim, he may not be able to leave you any feedback. Either way, as a buyer, the neg will not hurt you.

    PLEASE leave the neg

    Collecting all cards - Gus Zernial
    Post Cereal both raw and PSA Graded (1961-1963)

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    DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭
    I can understand someone wanting to protect their perfect feedback record, but then go ahead and get another ID that you would use just for buying and NEG him with that one.
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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    << <i>You have to leave him a Neg. I believe since you won the claim, he may not be able to leave you any feedback. Either way, as a buyer, the neg will not hurt you.

    PLEASE leave the neg >>



    Is there anyway to find out for sure, that they can't leave you a negative feedback once you have won a claim? Does anybody know for sure? If not, where can I get this info? I too have a problem with a seller, and would like to know if they can leave me a neg back.

    Thanks,

    Giovanni
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    << <i>If I send a neg. his way than I will also recieve on as well... He has proved that is what he has done in the past. I also would like to get the card... May use my friend to bid on the auction one more time? we will see. Paul >>



    And your point is???

    Why are people so worried about negatives? I have 2 and both are retaliatory from feedback that I left 1st. It's part of buying/selling on Ebay.

    Leave the negative and if you get one you can then add a follow up statement describing what the seller did.

    My neighbor is SO worries about negative feedback. In a recent auction he broke the item he was selling as he was packing it up for shipping. Instead of contacting the buyer and refunding his $$ he went out and bought a NEW item to replace the one he broke at a cost of $30 over the payment he received.

    Leave negative and everything else will work out
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    Can i ask why you wated so long to file? If i can pay quickly sellers can ship in a timely manner. After about 7 days, im all about the goods....you dont reply, boom! File a claim, better yet, escalate....that seems to get their attention....mmmmmm.
    "You must understand the difference in things that are similar, and the similarity of things that are different"

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    I agree with everyone... you must neg him, what’s the point of feedback if people are afraid of the retaliation neg.
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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,643 ✭✭✭✭
    This is why eBay's feedback system sucks. Because people who legitimately deserve and receive negs turn around and do the same thing. Those people are pond scum in my book. I agree with the previous posters. You have to neg this guy, whether it's with a new ID or not. And I would definitely recommend that you not bid on the card again. You gotta learn from what's happened already.

    So what's the seller's ID? Maybe we can all harrass him a little bit image
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
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    Thats why you everyone should have an ID for buying and one for selling. But you have to neg him. Even if he retaliates leave a follow up saying that the seller never shipped the item and relisted it a week later. What was his name though? The bad rep that he will get with the collectors here will hurt his business just as much, if not more, then a neg would.
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    out the bastige.
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    I believe since you won the claim, he may not be able to leave you any feedback.


    Not true, the only time a person cannot leave feedback that does not count for an item is if the seller files a UPI on the buyer and the buyer never responds to it. The buyer can leave feedback the comment shows but the feedback counts as nothing.

    In these cases Paypal and Ebay are 2 seperate entities it can go as far as now the seller could even file an UPI on you and you would get a strike from Ebay and face possible suspension as a non-payer. Although it has been over 6 weeks so his 45 days ar possibly up.

    Aside from negging him there is really nothing else you can do.
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    jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thats why you everyone should have an ID for buying and one for selling. But you have to neg him. Even if he retaliates leave a follow up saying that the seller never shipped the item and relisted it a week later. What was his name though? The bad rep that he will get with the collectors here will hurt his business just as much, if not more, then a neg would. >>




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    And you should post his ebay ID so we can avoid the same problem seller.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    part of the story is missing, IMO, did this item sell lower then it should have?


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    The item went for $3.25 and is a low numbered card that usually sells for around $12.00 to $25.00 range. Not that much of a give away... for someone who sells alot of cards. I'm sure he made the loss up on some other sales. His feedback for this month is 325 positives and 2 negatives. Both neg's were for cards under $10.00 not recieved. I think I will try to win the auction using my friend ID to bid on the card. I would really like to have the card. As to the Negative I will serve up... This will be given on the last day to give feedback for this item 90 days from the close of the auction. Maybe he will not give me a negative before his chance to do it has past. After the close of the second auction and I recieve the card I will disclose the name of this seller. Thanks for your imput. Paul
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    jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    In the old days you could leave feedback on the 90th day and not get the retaliatory neg. I think those days are gone, don't count on not getting the neg by waiting to the 90th day.
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    As long as the auction is still visible on Ebay feedback can be left for it. Some items stay in the system for up to 6 months. Either you neg him or not.. Don't beat around the bush about it. Having a 100% is not all its cracked up to be and in fact it can make you the target of scammers. These view sellers with high feedback scores at 100% as pushovers and will try to bully them by threatening to ruin that precious 100%.

    On a side note if this seller has blocked you from bidding and you bid on it with a "friends" ID and he figures it out and reports you. You and your friend could both end up getting in trouble with Ebay for auction interference and unwanted bidding.
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    I've had two sellers do this on items that sold "too cheap."

    If you have great feedback and can absorb the retalitory neg and still be 99.5+%, I say neg him. He deserves it.

    Kirby Puckett Master Set
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