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fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
At one of my local B&M coin shops several different dental hygenist used to bring in just pulled bloody teeth with gold fillings in them. They would sell the dealer the gold from their patients teeth.....yuk.image
I always wonder how many patients had no problem teeth pulled just so the dentist could sell the gold fillings.

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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the worst thing you have seen or heard happen in a B&M coin shop? >>

    proprietors have been shot & killed. what's worse then that?

    K S

    edited to quote the thread's original title that i responded too
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>proprietors have been shot & killed. what's worse then that?

    K S >>

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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>proprietors have been shot & killed. what's worse then that? >>

    In your case....death by slabbing maybe??image
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,903 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>proprietors have been shot & killed. what's worse then that?

    K S >>


    OK, you win.
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    I think the Dork has pretty much closed the book on this one.
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭
    Gold teeth are actually semi-valuable. They are 16K gold (.666 Fine) making them more valuable by weight than most gold rings and chains (usually 10K and 14K).

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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>proprietors have been shot & killed. what's worse then that? >>


    That's obviously not what the poster meant when he started the thread as you can tell by the example he gave. Try to stay on topic, Dork.
    Thankfully, I've never seen too many terrible things in B&M shops...maybe some dealers acting like jerks towards YNs occassionally, but that's about it.
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    jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    I see lots of people who either have no idea how to research or are just to dumb to do it. image
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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    This one ticked me off enough last week that I won't go back to this particular shop. I was searching through their Morgan boxes when a client came in wanting to sell some uncirculated common date Morgans and some sliders and inquired about their price. He was offered 8 bucks apiece for them after the dealer put on a show pretending to do some research.
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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Seems like every time I'm in either of the shops I frequent infrequently, there's people kibitzing with the owners and/or employees about bullion/metals prices/conspiracy theories about the government. No joking. So I'm not surprised when it goes on here.
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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When selling coins, I've been abused by a few dealers. Does that count?

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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Other than Hawaiian shirts with ketchup stains all over them?

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    Watched as a B&M dealer 'rumaged' thru a pile of silver coins brought in by a 'walk-in'...all the time muttering about them being just common circulated silver and offering 4x face (when the going rate was 8x). They took the money and left...

    ...so, I offered the dealer 6x face for the lot... a quick profit for him... his reply was "what? are you crazy? I gotta take a closer look at them first" ...

    ...he ended up finding not one but two 42/1 dimes!!!


    Earlier this year I heard about an "older" gentleman bringing a full run of GSA CC Morgans... 78-CC to 85-CC into a B&M. He ended up walking out with $1050 for the lot... talk about getting ripped...

    When my friend (who told me about this) told the man that he could have and should have gotten much more, the man got mad at him...felt that somehow my friend was trying to con him...(he apparently had many more coins that he was planning on selling)... this man ended up selling all his coins to this "friendly" B&M dealer instead of to my friend...who was more than willing to buy at real prices...

    Go figure image
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When selling coins, I've been abused by a few dealers. Does that count? >>

    Yes that counts. As long as you weren't killed raped or maimed we are good to go.image



    << <i>Other than Hawaiian shirts with ketchup stains all over them? >>

    You lead an exciting life Ziggy...that was a killer post.image I thought you said the book was closed on this thread?
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Other than Hawaiian shirts with ketchup stains all over them? >>

    You lead an exciting life Ziggy...that was a killer post.image I thought you said the book was closed on this thread? >>

    That's before the thread title was changed. That reopened it.
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My friend was buying a big-time local collection for $92k- when 8 different dealers walked in the door uninvited, one by one, and started making counter-offers, bringing the price up to $100k. My friend actually ended up losing money when he sold the coins at retail, so he wasn't exactly buying them cheap in the first place. This is the reason one should lock the doors to the shop when buying a big collection.
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    lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    I had a B&M dealer once show me how to dip a few Peace dollars in his back-room laboratory. And, promptly put them in his display case image
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes Ziggy....I had to pull a Captain obvious and add to the title. Dorktser loves looking for those loopholes.
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    BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    I had another customer at a coin shop offer to sell me the slightly stained bullet proof vest from a police officer who died of a gunshot wound. That was pretty weird.
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How's this one -- Seeing a coin dealer take clients' money for gold bullion coins, saying he didn't have them yet but would get them in a few days, issuing IOUs for such coins, never delivering them and filing for bankruptcy.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I listened to the convoluted and conspiracy laden conversation between a B&M dealer and a customer who wanted to buy 'untraceable' gold.. to prevent governmental confiscation. Weird. Cheers, RickO
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    BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My friend was buying a big-time local collection for $92k- when 8 different dealers walked in the door uninvited, one by one, and started making counter-offers...This is the reason one should lock the doors to the shop when buying a big collection. >>


    That's what I was thinking. When someone comes in and about to make a huge transaction the sign should get flipped and doors locked.


    One dealer in this area is a real butt. When I first got back into collecting in 2000 I was asking for some cirulated pieces here and there. Basically about $35 worth of stuff. Finally when I asked to see some mercs he basically told me that his time was valuable and that unless I was planning on spending at least $100 it was a waste of his time. Never been back there since

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    GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
    I was standing in my local B&M store, when a older lady walked in with a $20 gold Saint in a PCGS holder. The dealer said the coin was over-graded, cleaned, etc. Said it wasn't worth too much in that condition. The dealer finally said he would giver her $200 for it. She took it.

    Then the dealer proceeded to put a sticker on it with a price of $800, and put it in his display case - all within a matter of minutes, and me watching him. Needless to say, I don't visit this dealer anymore.image
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    ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was standing in my local B&M store, when a older lady walked in with a $20 gold Saint in a PCGS holder. The dealer said the coin was over-graded, cleaned, etc. Said it wasn't worth too much in that condition. The dealer finally said he would giver her $200 for it. She took it.

    Then the dealer proceeded to put a sticker on it with a price of $800, and put it in his display case - all within a matter of minutes, and me watching him. Needless to say, I don't visit this dealer anymore.image >>




    I would have got kicked out of that place, he's a crook. I would have offered her twice as much and tell her the real value as I'm leaving. I let many things slip but that wouldn't be one of them.image
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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like every time I'm in either of the shops I frequent infrequently, there's people kibitzing with the owners and/or employees about bullion/metals prices/conspiracy theories about the government. No joking. So I'm not surprised when it goes on here. >>




    I have always said that this industry is one of the few genres where you can go to any given show and talk to a randon selection of 100 people and come back with 80 different conspiracy theories. Some of these theories that some folks come up with are absolutely insane.

    About a year ago I was in a coin shop and a wierd looking individual comes in and offers for sale a few coins and silverware. He tells the shop owner that he can sell his items cheap because he stole them from a home that he had broken in to a few days before. The shop owner passed on the items. At least the seller was honest about the source of his sell items.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,854 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Seems like every time I'm in either of the shops I frequent infrequently, there's people kibitzing with the owners and/or employees about bullion/metals prices/conspiracy theories about the government. No joking. So I'm not surprised when it goes on here. >>




    I have always said that this industry is one of the few genres where you can go to any given show and talk to a randon selection of 100 people and come back with 80 different conspiracy theories. Some of these theories that some folks come up with are absolutely insane.

    About a year ago I was in a coin shop and a wierd looking individual comes in and offers for sale a few coins and silverware. He tells the shop owner that he can sell his items cheap because he stole them from a home that he had broken in to a few days before. The shop owner passed on the items. At least the seller was honest about the source of his sell items. >>



    Did the shop owner get the guy's license plate number and report him to the police?




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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Seems like every time I'm in either of the shops I frequent infrequently, there's people kibitzing with the owners and/or employees about bullion/metals prices/conspiracy theories about the government. No joking. So I'm not surprised when it goes on here. >>




    I have always said that this industry is one of the few genres where you can go to any given show and talk to a randon selection of 100 people and come back with 80 different conspiracy theories. Some of these theories that some folks come up with are absolutely insane.

    About a year ago I was in a coin shop and a wierd looking individual comes in and offers for sale a few coins and silverware. He tells the shop owner that he can sell his items cheap because he stole them from a home that he had broken in to a few days before. The shop owner passed on the items. At least the seller was honest about the source of his sell items. >>



    Did the shop owner get the guy's license plate number and report him to the police? >>



    The seller's image was on surveillance video and from what I understand the tape was turned in to police. The guy did not have a car and I believe he took off on a bicycle.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When I first got back into collecting in 2000 I was asking for some cirulated pieces here and there. Basically about $35 worth of stuff. Finally when I asked to see some mercs he basically told me that his time was valuable and that unless I was planning on spending at least $100 it was a waste of his time. Never been back there since >>

    Can't get more short sighted than that.


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    GrivGriv Posts: 2,804 ✭


    << <i>Watched as a B&M dealer 'rumaged' thru a pile of silver coins brought in by a 'walk-in'...all the time muttering about them being just common circulated silver and offering 4x face (when the going rate was 8x). They took the money and left...

    ...so, I offered the dealer 6x face for the lot... a quick profit for him... his reply was "what? are you crazy? I gotta take a closer look at them first" ...

    ...he ended up finding not one but two 42/1 dimes!!!


    Earlier this year I heard about an "older" gentleman bringing a full run of GSA CC Morgans... 78-CC to 85-CC into a B&M. He ended up walking out with $1050 for the lot... talk about getting ripped...

    When my friend (who told me about this) told the man that he could have and should have gotten much more, the man got mad at him...felt that somehow my friend was trying to con him...(he apparently had many more coins that he was planning on selling)... this man ended up selling all his coins to this "friendly" B&M dealer instead of to my friend...who was more than willing to buy at real prices...

    Go figure image >>



    This is why so many people hate slabs, it puts everyone on a level playing field. B&M dealers HATE that.
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Watched as a B&M dealer 'rumaged' thru a pile of silver coins brought in by a 'walk-in'...all the time muttering about them being just common circulated silver and offering 4x face (when the going rate was 8x). They took the money and left...

    ...so, I offered the dealer 6x face for the lot... a quick profit for him... his reply was "what? are you crazy? I gotta take a closer look at them first" ...

    ...he ended up finding not one but two 42/1 dimes!!!


    Earlier this year I heard about an "older" gentleman bringing a full run of GSA CC Morgans... 78-CC to 85-CC into a B&M. He ended up walking out with $1050 for the lot... talk about getting ripped...

    When my friend (who told me about this) told the man that he could have and should have gotten much more, the man got mad at him...felt that somehow my friend was trying to con him...(he apparently had many more coins that he was planning on selling)... this man ended up selling all his coins to this "friendly" B&M dealer instead of to my friend...who was more than willing to buy at real prices...

    Go figure image >>



    This is why so many people hate slabs, it puts everyone on a level playing field. B&M dealers HATE that. >>

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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    3 coin shop stories, 2 old ladies and an old guy:

    A little old lady walks in and says "these are the IHCs I called about last week, I would have brought them sooner but it took a few days to polish them" She pulled out a pile of polished IHCs and the dealer shook his head "ughhhh".

    I walk into a coin shop and the dealer has a shotgun on his desk. I asked what brought out the shotgun? He said he got ripped on selling gold bullion to a customer using a stolen credit card that he accepting without checking it since the old lady looked so nice (even though he has a sign that says no CCs for bullion) so he was keeping the shotgun ready in case the old lady returned for more.

    I'm in a shop and the dealer talks to another old guy then the dealer starts cursing at the guy and comes around the counter and chases the guy out the door yelling @#$% don't come back. I asked what the guy was trying to sell? The dealer said the guy offered a damaged (pinholes) $500 bill and he offered him $520. The guy said OK but only if he can buy it back within a week for $525. The dealer thought it was a sting operation to bust him for operating as a pawn broker without a pawn license so he went off at the guy.

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How's this one -- Seeing a coin dealer take clients' money for gold bullion coins, saying he didn't have them yet but would get them in a few days, issuing IOUs for such coins, never delivering them and filing for bankruptcy. >>



    Conejo?
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    << <i>So I see a coin in a search, decide to look at seller's other items, and I see this. Bout made me puke. >>



    I don't see anything wrong with selling dental gold scrap...
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My old mentor used to buy dental gold.

    One day this fella came in the shop and asked if he bought gold teeth. Bill said yeah. So, as Bill watches dumbfounded through the window, the guy goes out to his car in the parking lot, grabs a pair of pliers, leans over his wife's mouth, and...

    Edit to add: I once saw a bag of this dental gold. Yuk. Not terribly bloody, but definitely gross.

    And Bill spoke of how they used to have to take hammers and bang out all the amalgam and other crud. Eeew.

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