Coins that Matter
MrEureka
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Joe O'Connor likes to say that he specializes in "Coins that Matter".
Of course, everyone has to decide for himself which coins matter. So, which coins do you think matter, which ones don't, and how do you figure it out?
Of course, everyone has to decide for himself which coins matter. So, which coins do you think matter, which ones don't, and how do you figure it out?
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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I think it is up to the collector to determine which coins matter. Even for the high end collectors, a certain coin that a dealer might think matters might not be needed or relevant to that collector. Ultimately it is the collector's decision.
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
Consequently, however the collector defines their collection defines what "matters" to them.
Coins that matter, therefore, vary from collector to collector.
It may be an 1822 half eagle for one and a 1955-s cent for another.
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
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<< <i>I don't really like that slogan because it implies that certain coins do not matter (or that a certain level of collector does not matter). >>
A perusal of Joe's online inventory reveals a variety of items at price points ranging from $45 to $115,000, so whatever the slogan is implying to you, the inventory offering seems all-inclusive.
Only PCGS for me
K S
<< <i>They only matter if they're slabbed by PCGS
Only PCGS for me
K S >>
Oh really...so... how did it happen that I bought a nice coin in an NGC holder from you John????
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<< <i>They only matter if they're slabbed by PCGS
Only PCGS for me
K S >>
Oh really...so... how did it happen that I bought a nice coin in an NGC holder from you John????
Why do you think I sold it ???
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<< <i>They only matter if they're slabbed by PCGS
Only PCGS for me
K S >>
Oh really...so... how did it happen that I bought a nice coin in an NGC holder from you John????
Why do you think I sold it ???
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder I guess!
“I believe in intuitions and inspirations. I sometimes feel that I am right. I do not know that I am. When two expeditions of scientists, financed by the Royal Academy, went forth to test my theory of relativity, I was convinced that their conclusions would tally with my hypothesis. I was not surprised when the eclipse of May 29, 1919, confirmed my intuitions. I would have been surprised if I had been wrong. I am enough of the artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.” Albert Einstein- quoted in Saturday Evening Post interview (1929)
“Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.” For Einstein, honesty was fundamental. Attention to truth in small things reflected a person’s integrity on a larger scale.
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<< <i>I don't really like that slogan because it implies that certain coins do not matter (or that a certain level of collector does not matter). >>
A perusal of Joe's online inventory reveals a variety of items at price points ranging from $45 to $115,000, so whatever the slogan is implying to you, the inventory offering seems all-inclusive. >>
So then what does "Coins that Matter" actually mean?
What coins don't matter?
The coin dealers who had these slogans didn't survive:
"Coins that smell like BO"
"Coins that are just OK"
K S
<< <i>They only matter if they're slabbed by PCGS
Only PCGS for me
K S >>
why, you son of a goober! i'm gonna get you , you , you, PUNK!
K S
We both know that Joe is promoting an image for his business. He sells "quality" coins.
Never the less the concept of specialness is worth contemplating. Provided you are interested in the product, a coin that matters implies to me unique or near unique qualities ( i.e. one of a kind or one of a handful) either in quantity or quality or has a personal meaning to you ( the only coin your father gave you). A coin that doesn't matter to me is a common middle grade coin that is by definition readily available ( widget). Most collectors end up with a significant number of Ok but not very special coins. I am not immune from this collectors weakness. I often wonder what if I had instead a "few coins that really mattered ". Would I be a happier or less happy numismatist?
<< <i>"Coins that matter" is a successful advertising slogan.
The coin dealers who had these slogans didn't survive:
"Coins that smell like BO"
"Coins that are just OK" >>
Now that's funny.
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<< <i>in the grand scheme of things, [collecting] coins really don't matter...just like golfing, hunting, and other recreational activities. >>
(my brackets)
totally disagree. psychologists will tell you that the freedom to pursue enjoyable activities contributes considerably to a person's well being.
K S
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<< <i>in the grand scheme of things, [collecting] coins really don't matter...just like golfing, hunting, and other recreational activities. >>
(my brackets)
totally disagree. psychologists will tell you that the freedom to pursue enjoyable activities contributes considerably to a person's well being.
K S >>
Well, I agree with your point, but I would place some lower on the list under such necessities as food, shelter, love and friendship, a source of income or wealth and anything that has to do with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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"Coins that smell like BO"
"Coins that are just OK"
Short of bathing, I do prefer that my dealer splash a little cologne or perfume on himself or herself before I visit him or her.
"Coins that are just OK?"...The "just" is the flaw in this slogan. "Coins that are OK" should have been a smashingly successful slogan.
I have some keen perceptions about advertising slogans, don't you think?
“I believe in intuitions and inspirations. I sometimes feel that I am right. I do not know that I am. When two expeditions of scientists, financed by the Royal Academy, went forth to test my theory of relativity, I was convinced that their conclusions would tally with my hypothesis. I was not surprised when the eclipse of May 29, 1919, confirmed my intuitions. I would have been surprised if I had been wrong. I am enough of the artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.” Albert Einstein- quoted in Saturday Evening Post interview (1929)
“Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.” For Einstein, honesty was fundamental. Attention to truth in small things reflected a person’s integrity on a larger scale.
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<< <i>in the grand scheme of things, [collecting] coins really don't matter...just like golfing, hunting, and other recreational activities. >>
(my brackets)
totally disagree. psychologists will tell you that the freedom to pursue enjoyable activities contributes considerably to a person's well being.
K S >>
Well, I agree with your point, but I would place some lower on the list under such necessities as food, shelter, love and friendship, a source of income or wealth and anything that has to do with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
that's where the freedom part comes in! the freedom to be mistaken about the steelers!!!
oh, by the way, GO ILLINI!!!
K S
'coins that matter' are coins that grade like the seller says they do
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<< <i>in the grand scheme of things, [collecting] coins really don't matter...just like golfing, hunting, and other recreational activities. >>
(my brackets)
totally disagree. psychologists will tell you that the freedom to pursue enjoyable activities contributes considerably to a person's well being.
K S >>
Well, I agree with your point, but I would place some lower on the list under such necessities as food, shelter, love and friendship, a source of income or wealth and anything that has to do with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
that's where the freedom part comes in! the freedom to be mistaken about the steelers!!!
oh, by the way, GO ILLINI!!!
K S >>
Well, at least we can agree that football is a necessity.
<< <i>According to a few people...it HAS to be in PCGS plastic to matter huh? >>
But that's not a "coin" that matters. Apparently, it's the plastic that matters to some.
Unfortunate, IMO.
Coins that don't matter=coins that you want to sell me
(No offense to Joe; I have not (yet) bought a coin from him or tried to sell a coin to him
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
<< <i>(No offense to Joe; I have not (yet) bought a coin from him or tried to sell a coin to him
If Joe's selling it, I can't afford it.
<< <i>I think that it is a nifty marketing slogan, but in the grand scheme of things, coins really don't matter...just like golfing, hunting, and other recreational activities. >>
Or Steeler games...
Ahhh - shoulda read the second page before posting! lol!
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<< <i>(No offense to Joe; I have not (yet) bought a coin from him or tried to sell a coin to him
If Joe's selling it, I can't afford it. >>
Sure you can!
“I believe in intuitions and inspirations. I sometimes feel that I am right. I do not know that I am. When two expeditions of scientists, financed by the Royal Academy, went forth to test my theory of relativity, I was convinced that their conclusions would tally with my hypothesis. I was not surprised when the eclipse of May 29, 1919, confirmed my intuitions. I would have been surprised if I had been wrong. I am enough of the artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.” Albert Einstein- quoted in Saturday Evening Post interview (1929)
“Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.” For Einstein, honesty was fundamental. Attention to truth in small things reflected a person’s integrity on a larger scale.
Russ, NCNE
My dream coin is the trashy "ice cream" specimen of 1894-S dime. I would pay PCGS extra to slab and grade it "Trashy."
“I believe in intuitions and inspirations. I sometimes feel that I am right. I do not know that I am. When two expeditions of scientists, financed by the Royal Academy, went forth to test my theory of relativity, I was convinced that their conclusions would tally with my hypothesis. I was not surprised when the eclipse of May 29, 1919, confirmed my intuitions. I would have been surprised if I had been wrong. I am enough of the artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.” Albert Einstein- quoted in Saturday Evening Post interview (1929)
“Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.” For Einstein, honesty was fundamental. Attention to truth in small things reflected a person’s integrity on a larger scale.
K S
<< <i>I don't really like that slogan because it implies that certain coins do not matter (or that a certain level of collector does not matter). I understand the point of trying to position yourself as a high end dealer, though, and you don't want the unwashed masses calling you looking for moderns.
I think it is up to the collector to determine which coins matter. Even for the high end collectors, a certain coin that a dealer might think matters might not be needed or relevant to that collector. Ultimately it is the collector's decision. >>
Good advice fer dat Der Dorkkarl guy and all the others who have to bash what and how others collect.
An alternative slogan would be "Coins That Don't Suck"
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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<< <i>I like the slogan. I don't know why I like it, but at some visceral level it appeals to me. Maybe it's because I collect modern trash and only dream about coins that matter.
Russ, NCNE >>
don't be so hard on yourself russ............................ALL coins were modern trash at one time
<< <i>"Coins That Matter" will mean something different to everyone, yet I still think it's an appropriate guide. It has nothing to do with value, but with coins that get knowledgeable collectors excited. >>
perfectly stated.
K S
<< <i>Joe O'Connor likes to say that he specializes in "Coins that Matter". >>
For me, it was this coin. My first purchase from Joe and hope to have it soon. So, this one matters to me.
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"Coins That Matter" will mean something different to everyone, yet I still think it's an appropriate guide. It has nothing to do with value, but with coins that get knowledgeable collectors excited. >>
It seems we all know what it means.
Even Russ's definition will appeal to lots of people.
To me it means desirable coins that have some degree of scarcity. It might
be only scarcity relative demand but if they are too easy then, for me, they
just don't matter that much.
I'm not crazy about the phrase but to each his own.
And, no, I don't know why I typed this out and enterred it.
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