Any well-matched set of coins is fantastic to look at. Anything from a perfectly matched set of vg Mercs, to the collection referenced by the OP. However, from the title of the post, it sure looks like the OP wanted to stress the money aspect of the transaction.
<< <i><< There are plenty of multi-million dollar collections full of junk because the buyer doesn't know what he's doing. To assume that anybody with money can build a great collection is off base. It takes more than money. It takes passion, skill, and love. I didn't say they were junk.
Russ, NCNE >>
I've not seen any multi-million dollar collections filled with junk in all honesty.... and no one who I've know in my lifetime with that kind of dough who doesn't know what he is doing. All I've the people I've know personally with that kind of money were self made, and as such were pretty savvy with what they did with their money, coins or otherwise.
leaving out the word "reported" kinda makes one think that there hasn't been larger transactions at all, which IMO, it would be silly to assume.
Don't get me wrong here, I think this one transaction is outstanding and will be more than happy to view the set given the chance, I always was one for them amazonians
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care.
<< <i>There are plenty of multi-million dollar collections full of junk because the buyer doesn't know what he's doing. To assume that anybody with money can build a great collection is off base. It takes more than money. It takes passion, skill, and love.
Russ, NCNE >>
and Laura!!!
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse?
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely. >>
probably not many, but I still think it possible larger transactions have gone unreported
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse?
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely. >>
probably not many, but I still think it possible larger transactions have gone unreported
but then again, WTF do I know >>
I agree with you that it's theoretically possible ... but it would require a coin dealer [or two] keeping his mouth shut. Now what are the odds?
...not to trivialize the special quality of such a collection or transaction...
...but I just can't help but wonder...
...Would I rather have a collection of Amazonian coins or retire with an Amazon who has a well built type set...
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
Coins such as this 1792 pattern, before the US Mint was officially authorized, are in my opinion National Treasures. I would love to see them at the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian someday.
<< <i>I agree with you that it's theoretically possible ... but it would require a coin dealer [or two] keeping his mouth shut. Now what are the odds? >>
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Don't get so touchy. I did see a few folks show up with the Crisco for you. Like I said before, if you had titled and started the thread with a focus for the collection, it would have looked fine. But instead, it looks like just another ad for Legend. You could have mentioned the dollar amount as a footnote.
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Don't get so touchy. I did see a few folks show up with the Crisco for you. Like I said before, if you had titled and started the thread with a focus for the collection, it would have looked fine. But instead, it looks like just another ad for Legend. You could have mentioned the dollar amount as a footnote. >>
The only thing I put in the thread was that the ENTIRE amazonian set will be on display together sometime. I didn't mention Legend one bit.
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Don't get so touchy. I did see a few folks show up with the Crisco for you. Like I said before, if you had titled and started the thread with a focus for the collection, it would have looked fine. But instead, it looks like just another ad for Legend. You could have mentioned the dollar amount as a footnote. >>
The only thing I put in the thread was that the ENTIRE amazonian set will be on display together sometime. I didn't mention Legend one bit. >>
Would love to see the set! Bruce you need to stop being such a boo-Bird...
This is real numismatic news (although the release was E-mailed earlier) As a pattern fan and collector, I would love to see the pattern collection. Will the images be posted somewhere? Congrats to all : seller, conveyor and most of all acquirer.
Some of those patterns look familiar......I wonder.....
TDN and Laura - congrats in your involvement. VERY special indeed.
PS - TDN - Don't respond to every ignorant remark - makes the comments look legitimate. Remember the old saying. If you wrestle with pigs, you get dirty and the pigs enjoy it.
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse?
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely. >>
Who did you hire to kidnap Velveeta during this episode?
here is one example: when it is the world's largest darkside auction, in both dollars to be generated and prestigious coins, and your firm didn't grade ANY of them. The upcoming 'Millenia' auction that used to be on PCGS's website, was taken down after they realized that ALL of the coins (rare and otherwise) are graded by NGC.
link to PCGS's details on it, and their now closed link:
Oh, goody!! Indeed, they are in NGC slabs which means people who can't grade "coins" will run away in fear whilst sharp eyes scoop up the treasures and then cross to PCGS for extra profits.
<< <i> The only thing I put in the thread was that the ENTIRE amazonian set will be on display together sometime. I didn't mention Legend one bit. >>
Thread title: Largest private numismatic transaction ever just completed. First line of thread: Guess the details of a $30M+ transaction can't really be posted here without it going *poof*.
I'm too lazy to read through my incredibly long previous thread, but it looks like the Amazonian patterns referenced in the Trompeter case are the same ones which were sold again recently.
Does anyone want to cull through the case and figure out the grades back then versus the grades today?
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>I'm too lazy to read through my incredibly long previous thread, but it looks like the Amazonian patterns referenced in the Trompeter case are the same ones which were sold again recently.
Does anyone want to cull through the case and figure out the grades back then versus the grades today? >>
Shhhhhhh! Grades never change!
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You get over 1000 of some of the rarest coins all assembled and graded
for right at about 30K @........................
If I had deep pockets , that would be a fine way to go............
If Mr. Simpson studies each coin for a whole day , he will be amazed for just under 3 years.
Dan
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<< <i><< There are plenty of multi-million dollar collections full of junk because the buyer doesn't know what he's doing. To assume that anybody with money can build a great collection is off base. It takes more than money. It takes passion, skill, and love.
I didn't say they were junk.
Russ, NCNE >>
I've not seen any multi-million dollar collections filled with junk in all honesty.... and no one who I've know in my lifetime with that kind of dough who doesn't know what he is doing. All I've the people I've know personally with that kind of money were self made, and as such were pretty savvy with what they did with their money, coins or otherwise.
John
A Simpson who is also a Gold Man!
Steve
<< <i>That shatters the record for the largest private sale of one person’s collection ever >>reported << >>
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
<< <i>thats one hell of a deal, but one operative word was left out of the thread title
<< <i>That shatters the record for the largest private sale of one person’s collection ever >>reported << >>
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Maybe that's why the thread is still alive??
John
Don't get me wrong here, I think this one transaction is outstanding and will be more than happy to view the set given the chance, I always was one for them amazonians
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely.
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares?
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<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care.
<< <i>There are plenty of multi-million dollar collections full of junk because the buyer doesn't know what he's doing. To assume that anybody with money can build a great collection is off base. It takes more than money. It takes passion, skill, and love.
Russ, NCNE >>
and Laura!!!
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse?
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely. >>
probably not many, but I still think it possible larger transactions have gone unreported
but then again, WTF do I know
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
myCCset
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<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse?
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely. >>
probably not many, but I still think it possible larger transactions have gone unreported
but then again, WTF do I know
I agree with you that it's theoretically possible ... but it would require a coin dealer [or two] keeping his mouth shut. Now what are the odds?
...not to trivialize the special quality of such a collection or transaction...
...but I just can't help but wonder...
...Would I rather have a collection of Amazonian coins or retire with an Amazon who has a well built type set...
<< <i>I agree with you that it's theoretically possible ... but it would require a coin dealer [or two] keeping his mouth shut. Now what are the odds?
oh snap, I forgot that part
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Don't get so touchy. I did see a few folks show up with the Crisco for you. Like I said before, if you had titled and started the thread with a focus for the collection, it would have looked fine. But instead, it looks like just another ad for Legend. You could have mentioned the dollar amount as a footnote.
How about a more standard 15-30% vig.
roadrunner
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<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Don't get so touchy. I did see a few folks show up with the Crisco for you. Like I said before, if you had titled and started the thread with a focus for the collection, it would have looked fine. But instead, it looks like just another ad for Legend. You could have mentioned the dollar amount as a footnote. >>
The only thing I put in the thread was that the ENTIRE amazonian set will be on display together sometime. I didn't mention Legend one bit.
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<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse? >>
Who cares? >>
With all due respect, if you don't care then don't post to the damn thread. Leave it for those of us who *do* care. >>
Don't get so touchy. I did see a few folks show up with the Crisco for you. Like I said before, if you had titled and started the thread with a focus for the collection, it would have looked fine. But instead, it looks like just another ad for Legend. You could have mentioned the dollar amount as a footnote. >>
The only thing I put in the thread was that the ENTIRE amazonian set will be on display together sometime. I didn't mention Legend one bit. >>
Would love to see the set! Bruce you need to stop being such a boo-Bird...
OJ!
Proud recipient of two "You Suck" awards
As a pattern fan and collector, I would love to see the pattern collection.
Will the images be posted somewhere?
Congrats to all : seller, conveyor and most of all acquirer.
TDN and Laura - congrats in your involvement. VERY special indeed.
PS - TDN - Don't respond to every ignorant remark - makes the comments look legitimate. Remember the old saying. If you wrestle with pigs, you get dirty and the pigs enjoy it.
Buying top quality Seated Dimes in Gem BU and Proof.
Buying great coins - monster eye appeal only.
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...not to trivialize the special quality of such a collection or transaction...
...but I just can't help but wonder...
...Would I rather have a collection of Amazonian coins or retire with an Amazon who has a well built type set...
That's an absolute no brainer!!!!!
Steve
<< <i>How many $30M collections do you think are even in existance, let alone that change hands without a single peep on the very close knit coin bourse?
It's possible [for instance, theoretically Ford's stuff could have been sold privately first and then auctioned] but not likely. >>
Who did you hire to kidnap Velveeta during this episode?
That's the miracle . . . . . .
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<< <i>Why would a numismatic sale be poofable? >>
here is one example: when it is the world's largest darkside auction, in both dollars to be generated and prestigious coins, and your firm didn't grade ANY of them. The upcoming 'Millenia' auction that used to be on PCGS's website, was taken down after they realized that ALL of the coins (rare and otherwise) are graded by NGC.
link to PCGS's details on it, and their now closed link:
click here for the thread, with the now defunct link >>
It doesn't look defunct to me!!
Oh, goody!! Indeed, they are in NGC slabs which means people who can't grade "coins" will run away in fear whilst sharp eyes scoop up the treasures and then cross to PCGS for extra profits.
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The only thing I put in the thread was that the ENTIRE amazonian set will be on display together sometime. I didn't mention Legend one bit. >>
Thread title: Largest private numismatic transaction ever just completed.
First line of thread: Guess the details of a $30M+ transaction can't really be posted here without it going *poof*.
Don't be coy.
Thanks for sharing, TDN.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Does anyone want to cull through the case and figure out the grades back then versus the grades today?
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>I'm too lazy to read through my incredibly long previous thread, but it looks like the Amazonian patterns referenced in the Trompeter case are the same ones which were sold again recently.
Does anyone want to cull through the case and figure out the grades back then versus the grades today? >>
Shhhhhhh! Grades never change!