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I just wrote a question to the Xmas rack pack guy.

plifterplifter Posts: 361
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Here's what I asked:

Are you sure that these are legitimately packaged by Topps? I can't find any mention from other collectors or other websites indicating that Topps produced such a product. Also, back in the 50's, Topps products came with chewing gum. Your rack packs do not appear to have chewing gum from 1958. Also, if the packs are unopened, how do you know that there is a Roger Maris rookie since it's not on the front or back? Can you please explain? Thanks.

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    vintagetoppsguyvintagetoppsguy Posts: 871
    He could definitely have his auction cancelled by eBay for keyword spamming.

    I like the part where he says, "we were getting ready to send off to GAI since they do grading of these types but it appears they have gone out of business. Would have graded nicely!"

    As bad as GAI was, I don't think they would even grade these!

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    jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
    He's going to tell you that he doesn't know if a Maris rookie is in the pack....he'll just say it's the YEAR of the Maris rookie, which COULD be in there.
    -- Ryan Bell
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    EstilEstil Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How was Mark Murphy (who five years ago or so was THE unopened pack guy) able to get away with selling these packs? If you know what I mean by that.
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    plifterplifter Posts: 361


    << <i>He's going to tell you that he doesn't know if a Maris rookie is in the pack....he'll just say it's the YEAR of the Maris rookie, which COULD be in there. >>



    What's he going to say about my question of whether or not these packs were packaged by Topps and explain why they don't have chewing gum?
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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never seen any kind of rack pack with gum in it.
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    jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>He's going to tell you that he doesn't know if a Maris rookie is in the pack....he'll just say it's the YEAR of the Maris rookie, which COULD be in there. >>



    What's he going to say about my question of whether or not these packs were packaged by Topps and explain why they don't have chewing gum? >>


    No clue...because you have a VERY valid point about the Topps thing. BUT, I've never seen a rack pack with gum.
    -- Ryan Bell
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    WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Notice the staples - they have the blue plastic coating. Definately not vintage1
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    cravetoppscravetopps Posts: 1,134
    funny that the Xmas Greeting "card" on the top of the pack is in Mint condition but the cards are "ex".
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 30,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These Christams racks are multiplying like rabbits of late. Someone's basement factory must be working overtime! They are most definitely NOT authentic and even GAI refused to holder them, which I'm sure he is well aware of anyway. Very dishonest.


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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    As a jew, I'm offended there are no Channukah racks.
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 30,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a jew, I'm offended there are no Channukah racks

    I was going to say the same about Kwanzaa racks!


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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Actually, I don't believe in god so I guess I'm not technically jewish and have no room to complain. Damn it all to hell... or hades.... or whatever the bad jew place is.
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    chbchb Posts: 212 ✭


    << <i>so I guess I'm not technically jewish >>


    Obviously. Otherwise you would have received the Shlomo rack packs the rest of us received. Also, you would have capitalized jewish. Poser.
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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Hey, there was a cantor at my wedding. A little too much "ruler of our universe" for my taste, but otherwise she did ok.
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    BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    as someone who celebrates Festivus, I am deeply offended that there are no Festivus themed racks. I guess this counts as an airing of the grievences! Let the feats of strength begin!
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    metalmikemetalmike Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    About a year ago there was a seller on Ebay selling handmade racks with certain cards "on top" He was in Canada and was up front about the created pack angle. I bought one with all Reds 1970 3 on top and 3 on bottom all n/mt. I paid 10 and was happy as it was a nice novelty item for my Reds collection. Those so called xmas racks are a novelty piece at best and anyone who buys one has too much money. Will Psa grade the "header" cards? image
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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>so I guess I'm not technically jewish >>


    Obviously. Otherwise you would have received the Shlomo rack packs the rest of us received. Also, you would have capitalized jewish. Poser. >>

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    PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭


    << <i>As a jew, I'm offended there are no Channukah racks. >>



    Leave it to Lee to de-rail an otherwise perfectly informative thread, and as usual, swing it to religion image
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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Well, that is my M.O.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 32,292 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>These Christams racks are multiplying like rabbits of late. Someone's basement factory must be working overtime! They are most definitely NOT authentic and even GAI refused to holder them, which I'm sure he is well aware of anyway. Very dishonest. >>




    You're right - I've noticed rabbis all over the place - in New York, in Synagogues, in Israel...everywhere.
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    EstilEstil Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> As a jew, I'm offended there are no Channukah racks

    I was going to say the same about Kwanzaa racks! >>



    If I was a Jehovah's Witness, I'd be offended by all the holiday stuff going around; we don't celebrate any holidays! image

    Not to mention if I was Canadian, I'd be offended by all this Thanksgiving stuff; we had Thanksgiving last month! image
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    EstilEstil Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually, I don't believe in god so I guess I'm not technically jewish and have no room to complain. Damn it all to hell... or hades.... or whatever the bad jew place is. >>



    Jews don't believe in hell.
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    If I was a Jehovah's Witness, I'd be offended by all the holiday stuff going around; we don't celebrate any holidays! image

    Not to mention if I was Canadian, I'd be offended by all this Thanksgiving stuff; we had Thanksgiving last month! image >>



    You could always try selling them door to door!
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    scooter729scooter729 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭


    << <i>as someone who celebrates Festivus, I am deeply offended that there are no Festivus themed racks. I guess this counts as an airing of the grievences! Let the feats of strength begin! >>



    Festivus for the rest of us!
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    StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
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    digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Maybe someone should a formal letter of complaint to the Christmas rack pack scammers telling them that they need to change the wording a bit so that people who do not follow Christian beliefs will not feel unjustly excluded from this scam?
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    HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
    Lee, we can't have you feeling left out.

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    fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭


    << <i>How was Mark Murphy (who five years ago or so was THE unopened pack guy) able to get away with selling these packs? If you know what I mean by that. >>




    is this the same mark murphy who wrote a book on how to tell if a pack is resealed?
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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,245 ✭✭
    Someone was asking about Jewish racks, right?

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    ClemazClemaz Posts: 1,422
    I would like to rip open that rack pack
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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,245 ✭✭
    Me too! image
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    ldfergldferg Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭
    Will Psa grade the "header" cards?

    NO. ask CDs about his 75t football header card...LOL


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    EstilEstil Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>How was Mark Murphy (who five years ago or so was THE unopened pack guy) able to get away with selling these packs? If you know what I mean by that. >>




    is this the same mark murphy who wrote a book on how to tell if a pack is resealed? >>



    Yes, I think when he sold them on Ebay he explained clearly that these packs were indeed not made the same year as the cards. But can still be quite deceptive. Not to mention I think you only get a measly 12 cards in the rack. image
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Does that rack pack have rack sacks?(silicone)
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    plifterplifter Posts: 361
    OK, he contends that these are legit packs from Topps. Here's what he said:

    "This was a very popular sale back in 1950's and 60's. Just go to closed auctions and reference 1958 cello and Christmas packs, you'll see that they average $190-$300+ a pop. All factory sealed. These christmas packs are very popular on Ebay."

    I still don't think that in the 50's Topps would have made a product that did not contain chewing gum. Therefore rack packs would not exist. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OK, he contends that these are legit packs from Topps. Here's what he said:

    "This was a very popular sale back in 1950's and 60's. Just go to closed auctions and reference 1958 cello and Christmas packs, you'll see that they average $190-$300+ a pop. All factory sealed. These christmas packs are very popular on Ebay."

    I still don't think that in the 50's Topps would have made a product that did not contain chewing gum. Therefore rack packs would not exist. Correct me if I'm wrong. >>




    I'm telling ya, ask about the blue film on the staples. image
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 30,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All factory sealed.

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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>All factory sealed.

    image >>



    my basement is the factory where it was sealed
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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Heritage, do you have one with Koufax on top?

    And no, PSA does not grade rack header cards. I had a really nice one too. It was the greatest disappointment in my entire life.
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    rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
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    a chanuaka rack pack!!!!!it kinda looks like a happy meal at the top
    im waitig for some druid and the festival of samhain rack packsimage
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