I just wrote a question to the Xmas rack pack guy.

Here's what I asked:
Are you sure that these are legitimately packaged by Topps? I can't find any mention from other collectors or other websites indicating that Topps produced such a product. Also, back in the 50's, Topps products came with chewing gum. Your rack packs do not appear to have chewing gum from 1958. Also, if the packs are unopened, how do you know that there is a Roger Maris rookie since it's not on the front or back? Can you please explain? Thanks.
Are you sure that these are legitimately packaged by Topps? I can't find any mention from other collectors or other websites indicating that Topps produced such a product. Also, back in the 50's, Topps products came with chewing gum. Your rack packs do not appear to have chewing gum from 1958. Also, if the packs are unopened, how do you know that there is a Roger Maris rookie since it's not on the front or back? Can you please explain? Thanks.
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I like the part where he says, "we were getting ready to send off to GAI since they do grading of these types but it appears they have gone out of business. Would have graded nicely!"
As bad as GAI was, I don't think they would even grade these!
D's: 50P,49S,45D+S,43D,41S,40D,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
74T: 241,435,610,654 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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<< <i>He's going to tell you that he doesn't know if a Maris rookie is in the pack....he'll just say it's the YEAR of the Maris rookie, which COULD be in there. >>
What's he going to say about my question of whether or not these packs were packaged by Topps and explain why they don't have chewing gum?
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<< <i>He's going to tell you that he doesn't know if a Maris rookie is in the pack....he'll just say it's the YEAR of the Maris rookie, which COULD be in there. >>
What's he going to say about my question of whether or not these packs were packaged by Topps and explain why they don't have chewing gum? >>
No clue...because you have a VERY valid point about the Topps thing. BUT, I've never seen a rack pack with gum.
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
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34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I was going to say the same about Kwanzaa racks!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>so I guess I'm not technically jewish >>
Obviously. Otherwise you would have received the Shlomo rack packs the rest of us received. Also, you would have capitalized jewish. Poser.
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<< <i>so I guess I'm not technically jewish >>
Obviously. Otherwise you would have received the Shlomo rack packs the rest of us received. Also, you would have capitalized jewish. Poser. >>
<< <i>As a jew, I'm offended there are no Channukah racks. >>
Leave it to Lee to de-rail an otherwise perfectly informative thread, and as usual, swing it to religion
<< <i>These Christams racks are multiplying like rabbits of late. Someone's basement factory must be working overtime! They are most definitely NOT authentic and even GAI refused to holder them, which I'm sure he is well aware of anyway. Very dishonest. >>
You're right - I've noticed rabbis all over the place - in New York, in Synagogues, in Israel...everywhere.
<< <i> As a jew, I'm offended there are no Channukah racks
I was going to say the same about Kwanzaa racks! >>
If I was a Jehovah's Witness, I'd be offended by all the holiday stuff going around; we don't celebrate any holidays!
Not to mention if I was Canadian, I'd be offended by all this Thanksgiving stuff; we had Thanksgiving last month!
D's: 50P,49S,45D+S,43D,41S,40D,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
74T: 241,435,610,654 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
<< <i>Actually, I don't believe in god so I guess I'm not technically jewish and have no room to complain. Damn it all to hell... or hades.... or whatever the bad jew place is. >>
Jews don't believe in hell.
D's: 50P,49S,45D+S,43D,41S,40D,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
74T: 241,435,610,654 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
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If I was a Jehovah's Witness, I'd be offended by all the holiday stuff going around; we don't celebrate any holidays!
Not to mention if I was Canadian, I'd be offended by all this Thanksgiving stuff; we had Thanksgiving last month!
You could always try selling them door to door!
<< <i>as someone who celebrates Festivus, I am deeply offended that there are no Festivus themed racks. I guess this counts as an airing of the grievences! Let the feats of strength begin! >>
Festivus for the rest of us!
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<< <i>How was Mark Murphy (who five years ago or so was THE unopened pack guy) able to get away with selling these packs? If you know what I mean by that. >>
is this the same mark murphy who wrote a book on how to tell if a pack is resealed?
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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NO. ask CDs about his 75t football header card...LOL
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
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<< <i>How was Mark Murphy (who five years ago or so was THE unopened pack guy) able to get away with selling these packs? If you know what I mean by that. >>
is this the same mark murphy who wrote a book on how to tell if a pack is resealed? >>
Yes, I think when he sold them on Ebay he explained clearly that these packs were indeed not made the same year as the cards. But can still be quite deceptive. Not to mention I think you only get a measly 12 cards in the rack.
D's: 50P,49S,45D+S,43D,41S,40D,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
74T: 241,435,610,654 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
"This was a very popular sale back in 1950's and 60's. Just go to closed auctions and reference 1958 cello and Christmas packs, you'll see that they average $190-$300+ a pop. All factory sealed. These christmas packs are very popular on Ebay."
I still don't think that in the 50's Topps would have made a product that did not contain chewing gum. Therefore rack packs would not exist. Correct me if I'm wrong.
<< <i>OK, he contends that these are legit packs from Topps. Here's what he said:
"This was a very popular sale back in 1950's and 60's. Just go to closed auctions and reference 1958 cello and Christmas packs, you'll see that they average $190-$300+ a pop. All factory sealed. These christmas packs are very popular on Ebay."
I still don't think that in the 50's Topps would have made a product that did not contain chewing gum. Therefore rack packs would not exist. Correct me if I'm wrong. >>
I'm telling ya, ask about the blue film on the staples.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>All factory sealed.
my basement is the factory where it was sealed
And no, PSA does not grade rack header cards. I had a really nice one too. It was the greatest disappointment in my entire life.
a chanuaka rack pack!!!!!it kinda looks like a happy meal at the top
im waitig for some druid and the festival of samhain rack packs