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I have a problem. Someone I buy from frequently on ebay is charging way too much for shipping. I bought about a $100 worth of cards from them and shipping was $78 for priority. Last time a checked you can get a flat rate box for $8.95. I called them on it and they said that someone on the outside does their shipping and some of that goes to pay them. Is this right or wrong? I mean, I knew this going in, but once I saw the shipping it kind of threw me off. I know that I have a policy of once you get to about $10 on shipping you don't pay anymore because I'll just use a flat rate envelope or box.
I know that I shouldn't have done this (buy) if I had a problem with shipping. But, it still seems a bit much. Any help with this?
Guru
I know that I shouldn't have done this (buy) if I had a problem with shipping. But, it still seems a bit much. Any help with this?
Guru
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Loves me some shiny!
“Often wrong, but never in doubt.”
"Hi, I'm a repeat customer of yours, and I really like your stuff, but I cannot continue to pay these high shipping prices. Can you cut a returning customer a deal?"
I will not buy from anyone who profits from shipping. That's absurd.
Earlier this week I received a 23 pound turbo sent by the post office from california (I'm in Mass). It was sent priority and COD
and it only cost them $47.56. If he's your friend, and whoever is shipping for him is charging him that kind of money, you should tell him he's getting reamed pretty good on it.
Anyways, nothing you can do if you already agreed to it. Just don't buy from him again.
<< <i>This guy owns a store I shop from >>
Does this mean it's a local shop and you could just go pick them up? If not, there is no way I would pay that much for shipping. I would cut all ties with him.....just my opinion..
dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
I don't mind if the outside person is get a small cut, but come on. $78 is a bit much. It just sucks all around. For example, on my listings if shipping gets beyond $10 the buyer pays nothing more. That gives me enough to get the flat rate box and insurance on the item or items. I can honestly say I've never made a profit off of shipping. I'm not sure if this guy even knows how much is being charged on shipping. I'll keep things updated as they progress.
I really don't want this to turn ugly though. You know, I don't want to burn bridges.
Edit: He is a local shop guy. I've been buying from him for years. Well he used to be local till I moved. But I still buy from him when I'm down there. I've also brought him a lot of business in the last couple of years.
these must be some deal to go for that hi of shipping
2004 spx
1989 topps psa 10
1959 phillies
Phillies of the 70's
78 bucks is just plain nutz!!!!!
next time have him ship the heavy stuff media mail, especially if its junk. just say its "books"
what was the ACTUAL cost of shipping? how heavy was the package, where did it ship from> lets do the math and see how much this clowin is ripping you off.
78.00 seems extremely high unless it's like a case (20 boxes) of 87 topps ect ect
<< <i>next time have him ship the heavy stuff media mail, especially if its junk. just say its "books"
>>
So the solution is to encourage the other guy to mail things fraudulently? Okaaay.
Below are the items I won and the what I paid per item:
REED JOHNSON 07 Upperdeck Elements Jersey Auto / 350 $4.12
DAVID ORTIZ 07 UD Premier Stitchings Big Papi Patch /50 $8.50
SEAN GALLAGHER 07 Ultimate Collection Pastime Auto SP $2.49
GARRETT ATKINS 07 Ultimate Collection PATCH #d/ 25 $2.49
( 55 ) KEN GRIFFEY JR Baseball CARD LOT / SEE SCAN $3.99
CHRIS HEINTZ 06 SWEET SPOT ROOKIE AUTO # / 275 TWINS $5.12
JAY GIBBONS 05 DIAMOND KINGS AUTO # / 50 ORIOLES $2.49
NICKERSON / JEROLOMAN 05 USA BASEBALL RC AUTO # / 250 $2.49
Shannon Stewart 04 Leaf Limited SP Auto#/25 Twins $2.49
Scott Podsednik 04 Fleer Patchworks auto#146 $5.13
Eddy Curry 04-05 Sweet sigs auto #200 Bulls $2.49
A-Rod 00 SP Game Bat Edition Piece Game Bat $2.49
Josh Barfield 06 Bowman Originals uncirculated auto $2.49
" 24 " GEOFF PIERSON / JOHN KEELER AUTOGRAPH 2.49
" 24 " JAMES FRAIN / PAUL RAINES AUTOGRAPH 2.49
" 24 " TOMAS ARANA / DAVE CONLON AUTOGRAPH 2.49
" 24 " SHAWN DOYLE / RONNIE LOBELL AUTOGRAPH 2.49
" 24 " NESTOR SERRANO / NAVI ARAZ AUTOGRAPH 2.49
" 24 " FARAN TAHIR / THOMAS SHEREK AUTOGRAPH 2.49
" 24 " MARY LYNN RAJSKUB SET-WORN COSTUME CARD 6.75
" 24 " AISHA TYLER SET-WORN COSTUME CARD 6.60
" 24 " FARAN TAHIR SET-WORN COSTUME CARD 2.49
" 24 " ROGER CROSS SET-WORN COSTUME CARD 2.49
" 24 " SHAWN DOYLE SET-WORN COSTUME CARD 2.49
JOSH GEER 06 Bowman Originals Uncir. Auto / 343 2.49
JASON MARQUIS 06 Bowman Originals Uncir. Auto / 949 2.49
JEFF MATHIS 06 Bowman Originals Uncir. Auto / 127 2.49
SCOTT MATHIESON 06 Bowman Originals Uncir. Auto / 472 2.49
ELI MANNING 04 SPX Rookie Swatch Supremacy Jersey 2.49
ELI MANNING 04 Upperdeck Rookie Futures Jersey 2.49
CHARLES JOINER 99 Upperdeck Century Legends Auto SP 2.49
JIM PLUNKETT 72 TOPPS ROOKIE # 65 PATRIOTS 2.49
DON BUSE 06-07 CHRONOLOGY AUTO PACERS 2.49
OMAR VIZQUEL 04 UPPER DECK BAT INDIANS 3.55
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
400,000 commons, made out of paper, or 100 books, still made out of paper. still weighs 80lbs. low value, not worth it to the customer for overpriced shipping.
no big deal. i really dont see a problem with it, but i dont like overcharging for junk.
this guy is a fawkin ripoff artist. the most he should have charged you was $10, priority box, with delivey confirmation and full insurance. damn. what a thief.
1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Ozzie Smith
2006 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Chris Carpenter
<< <i>sometimes the best way to ship heavy junk, is to ship it cheap and slow. USPS will ship box A. that weighs 80 lbs, to Georgia for $75, but will ship the same box B. that weighs 80lbs for $12, but it will take 9 days, as long as you say its books, magazines etc.
400,000 commons, made out of paper, or 100 books, still made out of paper. still weighs 80lbs. low value, not worth it to the customer for overpriced shipping.
no big deal. i really dont see a problem with it, but i dont like overcharging for junk. >>
The part that you don;t seem to understand is that baseball cards do not qualify for Media Mail rates. Are you talking about Media Mail or Parcel Post?
<< <i>this is blatant overcharging of shipping. report him to ebay. >>
Unless he asked for discounted combined shipping beforehand, eBay won't do anything about it. I assume that these are all individual auctions where the shipping was disclosed befroehand?
http://sportsfansnews.com/author/andy-fischer/
Sounds like he's going to throw them all in a ten dollar box and profit $68 off of it.
Personally, I'd take the neg and not pay him, then use the feedback to tell potential customers how he treats those who buy multiple lots from him.
Some friend...
<< <i>I'm waiting on his response. If he's not willing to cut me a deal to keep my business I'm gonna have to cut ties and move on. I just hate going through this. I always get a sinking feeling in my gut when this kind of stuff happens. Also when I eat Taco Bell. >>
Guru,
Charging $78 to ship 35 individual cards, regardless of location and how many previous transactions, is absolutely excessive and outrageous!
Unless I'm reading it wrong or you aren't telling the whole story, this "friend" of your's is maliciously attempting to bend you over without vasoline.
You are a regular and long-time customer of his with several (if not many) successful previous transactions. You should be insulted and I can't believe you're even considering completing the transaction.
Tell him to get bent and NEVER do business with him again.
Sorry to hear you are going through this and best of luck.
<< <i>Below are the items I won and the what I paid per item: >>
Guru
When you say "won" - do you mean ebay sale? You had also mentioned his ebay shop.
Who is he on ebay and what's his shipping policy?
Charging excessively for shipping can be addressed with ebay.
mike
Stephen
I explained some things with him and my thoughts. I also shared the thoughts of the board. Hope you guys don't mind. I told him $78 is very excessive. Especially for a long time buyer. Not only do I buy from him online, but also his store.
He told me he'd knock it down to $40 for shipping. I told him that I thought it was still very excessive when a flat rate box was only $8.95. This is how he broke it down to me.
He pays $1 to the guy who lists the card.
He pays $1.25 to the guy who ships the card.
This is per auction.
He charges $1 to list to the customer and takes 10% from the final value.
Whatever is left over he uses to ship and pay fee's.
I told him that I thought this wasn't fair. He told me that since he sends me free crap all the time that he felt that this evened it out. I told him that it still wasn't fair and that Ebay would be pissed about this. I then told him that I knew the shipping rates and still went for the auction which was my fault and ignorance. But, I felt that since I've been buying from him a long time, I cut him deals when he buys from my company, and I've brought him business I should get something out of this.
He disagreed and I said that I couldn't do business online with him anymore if this were the case. He apologized and I said that he was getting screwed by the people he was paying to do this.
So, that's that. I feel like crap now. I know I shouldn't, but I do.
Take it as a lesson well learned.
There are TONS of sellers who would be more than happy to sell you cards at a discounted shipping rate
He should learn how to use a computer and bubble mailers if he wants to sell online. Otherwise he looks like a complete jacka$$. If you were my regular customer, I'd bend over backwards to make you happy. F--- him.
<< <i>He pays $1 to the guy who lists the card.
He pays $1.25 to the guy who ships the card.
This is per auction. >>
Those numbers just don't add up. He is paying $2.25 on every card? Many of the cards you bought were $2.49, so after eBay fees he is only profiting a few cents per card? Sounds like a story to me!
guru, you were paying $5 a card for that stuff. Not a great deal from where I'm standing.
He would only have to pay the guy his 1.25 to ship the package since he only has one box to ship.
This sounds like one of those tubs of crap who sets up and rips kids off at flea markets.
Tell him that your cards better arrive in 34 seperate bubble mailers or you will leave 34 negatives.
Dont ever call this guy your friend again
I do not offer S.A.S.E. for shipping. Shipping and handling fees are NON-NEGOTIABLE. Please consider Shipping and Handling fees when bidding.
If you do not intend to pay the fees, please do not bid on my auctions. Thanks, and good luck!
Jeff
Miscut Museum
My Mess
Jeff
Miscut Museum
My Mess
Guess I made the right decision.
Jeff
Miscut Museum
My Mess
This started with a couple of things. I was in the store the other day and he was selling 89 Fleer baseball wax for $20. I told him that I could the same boxes for $9 at BBCE. So, he sold them to me for $9. The next guy came in and he charged regular price.
Then when I was at the post office the other day, I saw something. I hadn't realized that there was a flat rate priority box and envelope. I just don't go there much so I didn't know. That got me thinking.
So, now that I'm not going to buy from him I'm not sure what to do. Any suggestions?
The possibilities are endless with what direction you can go with your new found wealth...
I thought I recalled something about online auction houses doing something to secure this sort of thing but I guess it's tough to police everything. Hopefully people will do a good job of reading the fine print. I can point you to an auction right now for a single Ripken card on ebay that's under $10 but the shipping charge is something like $2,000
Ripken in the Minors * Ripken in the Minors Facebook Page
<< <i>So, now that I'm not going to buy from him I'm not sure what to do. Any suggestions? >>
You're not sure what to do? About what? You didnt get divorced and no one died, this isnt a life changing day in your life. Just buy from sellers that dont rip people off.
There are some very strange things in your journey...
If you are actually going to a store of his, then why on earth is he shipping you cards through the mail?
Man, what are the odds of you buying a 1989 fleer baseball box, and the very next guy in the store buying the same? This is like a time warp as if when the boxes were on fire like during the Ripken error time.
Lee