<< <i>Generally speaking, stamps from the 40's to present are worth nothing. If unused, put them on a package and send it out. >>
I've frequently seen mint sheets selling for 80% of face value. The Post Office will not take them back.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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Don't use them as postage. Give them a try on ebay first with an opening bid at face value. You may be surprised. I recently put a couple batches of modern stamp sheets up and they did pretty good. Most went for more than face value, some went for multiples of face value. Nothing was older then 1999. 4x face 3x face 2x face
Just Kidding! I do like Stamps and generally save the ones which are reprints of old issues. The PO did a great job with the Christopher Columbus issues and the Bison, Steam Locomotive, etc. I also have reprints by the PO of the classic inverts. They are NICE!!! Anyone have these?
<< <i>I have a complete sheet of the bicentennial stamps in a book somewhere.... even those have not increased much. The hobby is dying. Cheers, RickO >>
The problem with something like the bicentennial stamps is that there is no market in the first place for it to die. Stamps, creeping into the late 30's and beyond are considered moderns. If it's a modern and not graded at least a 95 or perfect 100 for later ones, or not a EFO then there is no market except discount postage.
Apparently, Heritage has the same question according to their latest email.
I wouldn't say they are offering too much stuff at auction, but I have to question why they really thought anyone would want to buy that "Bay Boys II" prop coffin in a recent sale. Imagine explaining that purchase to the wife.
So what? The point is PSE graded stamps are anything but dead. Take a look at recent Shreves or Nutmeg auction results. Take a look at what David Hall has in his PSE registry sets. PSE has made stamp collecting viable. I don't care how you feel about coins and plastic. It's more than foolish to denigrate plastic if you're talking philatelics.
collect stamps if you enjoy them but do not expect me to think that the hobby is alive and well at all levels.
of course the true rarities will remain popular due to many people wanting to fulfill a dream of owning them one day.. but to extrapolate that to the market as a whole is comical.
i do not know a single person in real life, not online, that collects stamps. the hobby is dieing. when was the last time you saw a child get a stamp album? 1979?
soooo if others wish to play follow the leader and if pse makes them feel like they are getting good value, so be it.
i am not the only one who is getting a chuckle from the state of the stamp market.
the current modern market for coins is going down the same path. a flood of stuff that will enventually end up as bullion or worse.
> do not expect me to think that the hobby is alive and well at all levels
fc, I've always been careful to speak only of the graded aspect of philatelics as more than alive and well. Stamp collecting as it once was is long gone. So is coin collecting. Life is change. We move on. I get a chuckle from those who say today's stamp market is dead because their old Bicentennial sheets are worth maybe face value at best. Extrapolating that sad situation to the stamp market as a whole is ludicrous. PSE has only been grading stamps for a little more than five years. The PSE plastic you denigrate has been flying high under the radar screen. There are a few of us on the coin side who know this. It's worth checking into.
--The PSE plastic you denigrate has been flying high under the radar screen.
like i said, if it takes plastic to reinvigorate the market you may want to rethink if the hobby is alive and well...
marketing has shown to work in the collectables market. i have seen the magazine ads by the dealers hoping to cash in. Saying Mr Hall collects them is sorta funny because, well, he is in charge of PSE more or less. Of course he promotes and collects them. If he has faith in the upper end market why don't you??
The only hobby where i have seen the dealers react with disgust to the plastic is comic books. thank god some dealers keep it real and continue with what they love.
edited to add: another poster is right. we are on the wrong forum. i am going to stop replying. we agree to disagree.
I was concurrently a coin and stamp collector for over 30 years, but I dropped stamps several years ago, for some of the same reasons that I cut back on the scope of my coin collecting. USPS is putting out more and more new issues so that it becomes an overwhelming task to keep up with every issue and every variety, plus they issue scads of souvenir sheets now - when I was younger, you'd see a special souvenir sheet once every few years, now it's many times per year. With stamps there isn't even the issue of seignorage like coins, so they print an image on a little piece of paper and charge 41 cents for it, this is hugely profitable for USPS, and they have just gotten hyper-greedy. After awhile, I said f--k it and just chucked that hobby.
<< <i>This whole thread is sooo OT to this forum that it is not even funny.
Why has PCGS allowed this thread to continue in an inappropriate venue... >>
This should put it back on topic. I own a 1933 stamp on an envelope containing a three piece SC$ set in original holder from Colorado's Century of Progress. It holds an HK-867, HK-868 and HK-869.
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I have a sheet of those too.
<< <i>Generally speaking, stamps from the 40's to present are worth nothing. If unused, put them on a package and send it out.
-Paul >>
That's what I figured... stamps are stupid
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Herb
LOL. You don't trust the answers you got over on the stamp forum?
<< <i>Generally speaking, stamps from the 40's to present are worth nothing. If unused, put them on a package and send it out. >>
I've frequently seen mint sheets selling for 80% of face value. The Post Office will not take them back.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
4x face
3x face
2x face
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Just Kidding! I do like Stamps and generally save the ones
which are reprints of old issues. The PO did a great job
with the Christopher Columbus issues and the Bison,
Steam Locomotive, etc. I also have reprints by the PO
of the classic inverts. They are NICE!!! Anyone have these?
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
> The hobby is dying
LOL. High grade PSE stamps are anything but dead.
<< <i>I have a complete sheet of the bicentennial stamps in a book somewhere.... even those have not increased much. The hobby is dying. Cheers, RickO >>
The problem with something like the bicentennial stamps is that there is no market in the
first place for it to die. Stamps, creeping into the late 30's and beyond are considered
moderns. If it's a modern and not graded at least a 95 or perfect 100 for later ones, or
not a EFO then there is no market except discount postage.
I wouldn't say they are offering too much stuff at auction, but I have to question why they really thought anyone would want to buy that "Bay Boys II" prop coffin in a recent sale. Imagine explaining that purchase to the wife.
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yea, it took a gimmick called plastic to get anyone interested in it
again.
<< <i>LOL. High grade PSE stamps are anything but dead.
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yea, it took a gimmick called plastic to get anyone interested in it
again. >>
So? What's funny about that? Stamps needed something and PSE
seems to be it at the moment.
> yea, it took a gimmick called plastic
So what? The point is PSE graded stamps are anything but dead. Take a look at recent Shreves or Nutmeg auction results. Take a look at what David Hall has in his PSE registry sets. PSE has made stamp collecting viable. I don't care how you feel about coins and plastic. It's more than foolish to denigrate plastic if you're talking philatelics.
KJ
after all he is an expert at everything he does and if he does it,
well you should too.
> if he does it, well you should too.
Cute little comment. If that's your level of understanding, so be it.
KJ
collect stamps if you enjoy them but do not expect me to think
that the hobby is alive and well at all levels.
of course the true rarities will remain popular due to many people
wanting to fulfill a dream of owning them one day.. but to extrapolate
that to the market as a whole is comical.
i do not know a single person in real life, not online, that collects
stamps. the hobby is dieing. when was the last time you saw a child
get a stamp album? 1979?
soooo if others wish to play follow the leader and if pse makes them
feel like they are getting good value, so be it.
i am not the only one who is getting a chuckle from the state
of the stamp market.
the current modern market for coins is going down the same path.
a flood of stuff that will enventually end up as bullion or worse.
I sold off most of my coin collection in 1973 and got hooked on US stamps.
I aquired one of the finest Regular Issue sets ever auctioned off by Steve Ivy back in 1989...
yup, you guessed it, exactly one year after the stamp market tanked.
I got ripped...big time.
What ever proceeds I got were reinvested into coins - always my first love;
I have not regretted that move.
Although I enjoy the beauty of US stamps - especially the Early Commems -
the cost of maintaining current issues was getting out of hand. From the posts
in this thread, most moderm issues are barely worth face value.
I still own everything issued since the late 1920's in single and plate block format
and will let my heirs deal with those albums.
BTW, I stopped buying any "collectable" postage stamps shortly after the Bicentennial issues.
I refuse to slap them onto envelopes for first class postage...it'd be a sacrilege.
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> do not expect me to think that the hobby is alive and well at all levels
fc,
I've always been careful to speak only of the graded aspect of philatelics as more than alive and well. Stamp collecting as it once was is long gone. So is coin collecting. Life is change. We move on. I get a chuckle from those who say today's stamp market is dead because their old Bicentennial sheets are worth maybe face value at best. Extrapolating that sad situation to the stamp market as a whole is ludicrous. PSE has only been grading stamps for a little more than five years. The PSE plastic you denigrate has been flying high under the radar screen. There are a few of us on the coin side who know this. It's worth checking into.
KJ
Win A Free Jenny Then flip it and buy
a whatever thing.
Jerry
like i said, if it takes plastic to reinvigorate the market you may
want to rethink if the hobby is alive and well...
marketing has shown to work in the collectables market. i have
seen the magazine ads by the dealers hoping to cash in. Saying
Mr Hall collects them is sorta funny because, well, he is in charge
of PSE more or less. Of course he promotes and collects them.
If he has faith in the upper end market why don't you??
The only hobby where i have seen the dealers react with disgust
to the plastic is comic books. thank god some dealers keep it real
and continue with what they love.
edited to add: another poster is right. we are on the wrong forum.
i am going to stop replying. we agree to disagree.
> he is in charge of PSE more or less
CLCT owns both PCGS and PSE. All services owned by CLCT are independent entities.
FWIW, Jay Parrino is another well known coin collector who has built some magnificent stamp sets on the PSE registry.
Yes, whatever floats your boat.
KJ
<< <i>This whole thread is sooo OT to this forum that it is not even funny.
Why has PCGS allowed this thread to continue in an inappropriate venue...
This should put it back on topic. I own a 1933 stamp on an envelope containing a three piece SC$ set in original holder from Colorado's Century of Progress. It holds an HK-867, HK-868 and HK-869.
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
<< <i>This whole thread is sooo OT to this forum that it is not even funny.
Why has PCGS allowed this thread to continue in an inappropriate venue...
yet you chose to voluntarily open the thread, voluntarily read it, and voluntarily add your worthless comment to it.
For that, we certainly and collectively thank you for your time and trouble Pete.
Now run along, find David Hall's personal home phone or cell phone, and maybe you can get this thread removed.