Numismatic items lost in California fires
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I can imagine quite a bit has been lost, since there was such short notice on getting out for many people.
I have heard that some fine art and unique Elvis memorabilia has been lost.
I have heard that some fine art and unique Elvis memorabilia has been lost.
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<< <i>Elvis memorabilia has been lost >>
His Army Uniform was saved - I saw it on the local news.
>>>My Collection
Not our wedding pictures or insurance papers. We were mobilizing everything when they called off the order.
Fires are a few miles to the east and the wind has shifted back to a seabrezze on shore. I am sure a lot of collectors
given a little more time would load most of their best coins in the escape vehicle, screw the mountian of clothes
most of which I rarely wear anyway.
Those in harms warm get out with your lives AND your best stuff!
If you can
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<< <i>Another reason to have a fireproof safe in you home... not to mention a private well to feed your roof top sprinkler system, common sense horticultural decorations, prior planning for emergency situations, and many other things that most people do not do.... Cheers, RickO >>
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<< <i>Another reason to have a fireproof safe in you home... not to mention a private well to feed your roof top sprinkler system, common sense horticultural decorations, prior planning for emergency situations, and many other things that most people do not do.... Cheers, RickO >>
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i wonder if that would have even helped... saw some video and the fire s are intense and devastating... saw a car literally melted... the wheel rims solidified as a stream of metal on the ground... i doubt any fire safe would have made it through that.
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<< <i>Another reason to have a fireproof safe in you home... not to mention a private well to feed your roof top sprinkler system, common sense horticultural decorations, prior planning for emergency situations, and many other things that most people do not do.... Cheers, RickO >>
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i wonder if that would have even helped... saw some video and the fire s are intense and devastating... saw a car literally melted... the wheel rims solidified as a stream of metal on the ground... i doubt any fire safe would have made it through that.
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The fires are so intense I noticed that water dropped from planes and helicopters looks like it evaporates in the air before it even gets
to the flames. This morning CNN showed what they called a "firenado" that looked like a small tornado formed by the intense heat
and wind.
Are these people taught to be prepared for emergency evacuation similar to what residents in hurricane-prone areas are? Sure they have no warning in earthquakes, but for fire emergencies they have a few minutes to grab the basics, ...if they're paying attention.
Thanks for the well wishes.
<< <i>It's terrible what is happening out in California.
Are these people taught to be prepared for emergency evacuation similar to what residents in hurricane-prone areas are? Sure they have no warning in earthquakes, but for fire emergencies they have a few minutes to grab the basics, ...if they're paying attention. >>
I lost my house in the LA fires in 1993. Sure you prepare but fires move fast in 80 mile an hour winds. I had 15 minutes to get out at 5:00am in the morning. The winds shifted in the middle of the night while most of the community was asleep.
Try this: set your alarm for 5:00am..when it goes off, you have 15 minutes to leave your house forever.
See what goes through your head. See what you grab.
Its fine to play armchair quarterback with natural disaters that you see on the news but until you've been through it....you really are just talking out of your a$$.
<< <i>I'd be packed and ready to run, don't wait until the last second to run though your house grabbing things. >>
Many of us here have had days to think about what to take. Communication is much better than it used to be. I believe just about everybody with he means has a firesave big enough to hold important papers and valuables for any fire danger--not just a firestorm and not just in CA. Those people with a valuable collection keep it in the Bank anyway. But as numisma reported his book collection would fill a u-haul. I have a couple hundred pounds of books but they would all be easily replaced and were not on my list of things to take.
But what about those who aren't home, on vacation or a business trip? They may not get a single thing out of the home.
Some of the memorabilia mentioned is much larger than would fit in a firesafe. Remember some of the more affluent people (think Tancho Sante Fe) might have sculptures and paintings displayed worth 6 or 7 digits and these would be competing for attention.
The suggestion to have your own well and rooftop splinkler system sounds like a $100,000 option that I've never seen anyone install that had city water. To consider this you would have to believe that your house was going to burn down. I'm sure those watching TV have concluded that these houses are built in areas that burn every year. That is not the case. Californians aren't as stupid as the rest of the country tends to think. If your house is that likely to burn down you won't be able to get insurance anyway. Remember that although over 1000 homes have burned millions have not.
--Jerry
area and so devastating in its severity. Many of us who
have not lost our homes ,have lost cable, power, water
no mail. I have taken many a pleasant trip to San Diego
it must now resemble San Francisco after the 1908
earth quake and fire. Roads are in flux, open, closed,
open and closed again. As usual FEMA has not arrived yet.
Our politicians seem very concerned about getting enough TV time
and telling us how wonderful they are and how thankful we should be.
The firemen have been great but as for the politicians, they can all burn
in the fire.
Camelot
Sounds like to me they are insured so they aren't all that concerned.
just completed 3d tour to Iraq and retired after 28+ years in the US Army
<< <i>it must now resemble San Francisco after the 1908
earth quake and fire. >>
I believe you mean 1906.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I asked him if he was in any danger?
He said that he has taken the necessary precautions.
To which I asked what precautions?
He replied simply "I had my wife get all of our family photos packed up and ready to take with us if we suddenly had to leave."
Now that is somebody with a sense of what is really important!
East........Hurricanes, raising water level, potential earthquakes, floods
West, Fire, earthquakes, mudslides, killer bees, floods
South....drought, fire ants, carpenter ants, hurricanes, floods
North.....Earthquakes, raising water level
Where exactly is a safe area to live.
What to do....Change buildings codes to mandate building material
and design that is fire proof and earthquake resistant.
Outlaw building of home in flood planes, fire zones and areas of unstable
land conditions.
Camelot
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Tyler
This is something many people don't realize. If they wait for authorities to tell them to do something safety-wise, they're waiting on disaster.
You take responsibility for your own safety. Be pro-active. The authorities may not be able to make it down your street.
Maine has plenty of fresh water. I have been sort of eyeing the possibility of getting something up there for summer living.
A town called Bethel, ME has been very endearing to me. It seems to have all of what I like in New England. Right by the Androscoggin river. Only 20 miles from the New Hampshire border. Bethel, ME may be better known by the resort area it is in called Sunday River. It is also the home of a very well known private boarding school.
it is pointless to debate this with people. they will expect their insurance company
to pay or the govt will give them a handout.
they are in for a shock when they find out that next time the insurance company wont
help them get a policy, nor will the govt step in.
if i build my house on sand who is to blame?
you want nice trees and brush/sticks/crap all next to your house in a dry, windy, arid
area that is known to have fires, oh every decade.. and are shocked when it happens.
americans really astound me.
<< <i>how about this novel idea - dont build a multi-million dollar house in an area prone to forrest fires - in the same token dont build in a known flood plain - yes, unexpected natural disasters occur and we need to be prepared, but dont put yourself into a precarious situation in the first place!! >>
So no nice houses in CA where there are fires and earthquakes. None in the midwest where there are tornados. None in the south where there are hurricanes...oh my, fire can burn down a house anywhere, otherwise we wouldn't all need fire departments. jimmymac, is there a firedepartment in your town? Be a man and tell us where you live or are you just another coward armchair quarterback?
The insurance industry is sleazy. I've lived in the same house for 35 years, my family has owned it for 50 years. Not one claim ever has been submitted for homeowners insurance, but if I were to submit one, next year my premiums would double, triple or they wouldnt cover me. Thats sleazy.
<< <i>wow. some people are real douchebags today. People live where they want to live, they arent looking for handouts. If i PAY for insurance your damn right i expect to be reimbursed. The insurance industry is sleazy. I've lived in the same house for 35 years, my family has owned it for 50 years. Not one claim ever has been submitted for homeowners insurance, but if I were to submit one, next year my premiums would double, triple or they wouldnt cover me. Thats sleazy. >>
While we're bashing insurance companies: I had to pay some BS $100 insurance adder because myhome is zoned in a flood area. It rains 7 inches a year hear and I live on top of a 300 ft tall hill..I couldn't talk them out of it. --Jerry
<< <i>Mid west....Tornadoes Drought, hurricanes
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there are hurricanes in the midwest?! we dont even have a coast! not fair!
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<< <i>Mid west....Tornadoes Drought, hurricanes >>
there are hurricanes in the midwest?! we dont even have a coast! not fair! >>
I lived in Atlanta 2 years and knew 2 people personally whose houses were destroyed by tornados. I've lived in CA for 25 years and know nobody personally whose house has been destroyed by fire or earthquake. --Jerry
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Folks are losing their homes in California! Show some empathy!
The name is LEE!
P.S. 19Lyds, it's not really blaming someone in this case, it's a play on words so-to-speak. I couldn't tell if you realized the difference at first. These are references to two actual fault lines in the Earth.
San Andreas in CA
Balcones in TX
I applaud the CA authorities in having a good game plan, i.e. Qualcom arrangements. This is directly opposed to New Orleans, who basically took no "pride in ownership" so-to-speak, and just counted on the federal government to bail them out. I know where I'd feel safer living!
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San Diego, CA
There have always been fires and quakes out there, planning makes all the difference.
Well, just Love coins, period.
For those of you who don't already know, the combination of the housing situation in So. California and the extreme fire-prone conditions, will probably only get worse and there doesn't seem to be any good solutions. You can't stop a fire or even do much to protect your home if it hasn't rained significantly in a year, its 100 degrees out and the winds are 80mph. Fire crossed a ten lane freeway at one point.
-Aaron
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<< <i>I think San Diego is very organized, there are evacuation centers all over the county and of course the main one is Qualcomm stadium. >>
They have all announced that they can't take any more donations. People have contributed more cots, blankets, food, water, etc than they can use or store. People can be great.
But, all the poor wild animals.
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-Aaron
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Welcome out of the shadows!
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<< <i>It's terrible what is happening out in California.
Are these people taught to be prepared for emergency evacuation similar to what residents in hurricane-prone areas are? Sure they have no warning in earthquakes, but for fire emergencies they have a few minutes to grab the basics, ...if they're paying attention. >>
I lost my house in the LA fires in 1993. Sure you prepare but fires move fast in 80 mile an hour winds. I had 15 minutes to get out at 5:00am in the morning. The winds shifted in the middle of the night while most of the community was asleep.
Try this: set your alarm for 5:00am..when it goes off, you have 15 minutes to leave your house forever.
See what goes through your head. See what you grab.
Its fine to play armchair quarterback with natural disaters that you see on the news but until you've been through it....you really are just talking out of your a$$. >>
Being a native Chicagoan, transplanted myself to Southern Cali for 15 yrs before going back east then south to Texas- I can only say for those that have never been in a hurricane, or a earthquake, or tornado- that a fire storm is the worst one that is a couple of 'hills' away from you at this time of year- can move faster than diaherrea - you don't think- you just do.
I feel sorry for the folks that are losing there homes south of me, and for a few of my friends that lived in the Malibu area- one did lose his home- it's a big deal guys, and for the clowns who have never had to deal with a arsonist or a wind whipped power line- come on down, I can show ya what the trouble is here.
One thing you won't see on CNN- people crying for help, or standing on their roofs telling the world to give them money.
We are a bit proud of what we have.
very upsetting to hear of arson involvement in some of the fires.
<< <i>Geez Guys! Step back and take a breath!
Folks are losing their homes in California! Show some empathy! >>
i'm with you, lee.
<< <i>I heard the Lt. Gov of CA on the news this morning, all he could say were Bush bashing comments. Nothing about the people that had to relocate, just what an ass Bush is. >>
Marty, will you link any of your prior comments about those who had to relocate?
Lets assume that Garamendi is politicizing the unfortunate situation. How are your comments not similar in character?
<< <i>I heard the Lt. Gov of CA on the news this morning, all he could say were Bush bashing comments. Nothing about the people that had to relocate, just what an ass Bush is. >>
Him and Barbara "the Bimbo" Boxer
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<< <i>I heard the Lt. Gov of CA on the news this morning, all he could say were Bush bashing comments. Nothing about the people that had to relocate, just what an ass Bush is. >>
Marty, will you link any of your prior comments about those who had to relocate?
Lets assume that Garamendi is politicizing the unfortunate situation. How are your comments not similar in character? >>
Marty is not an elected official of California, Don. He is not wasting time exercising his BDS instead of helping the people who elected him. Geez, that was so simple even you could have gotten it.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>... Geez, that was so simple even you could have gotten it. >>
Yeah. I'm a little slow-doubtless that explains much.