Which Presidential Spouse will be the first NOT to sell out?

jmski52 · October 20, 2007 3:22PM

Will it be a Proof or an Unc? Which of the 20,000 mintage Spouse coins will fail to have a sellout?

Will a premium develop once that happens?

ModernCrapNut · October 20, 2007 3:27PM

John Quincy Adams FS Uncirculated.

HonoluluDude · October 20, 2007 3:29PM

I would guess the very next one that comes out, since the Jeffs were duds for the flipper crowd.

Konahead · October 20, 2007 3:38PM

<< I would guess the very next one that comes out, since the Jeffs were duds for the flipper crowd. >>

Texast · October 20, 2007 3:44PM

<< I would guess the very next one that comes out, since the Jeffs were duds for the flipper crowd. >>

LALASD4 · October 20, 2007 3:48PM

On that same note, can someone tell me which stock will go up or drop 2% at the end of the day Monday from Monday's opening price.

notwilight · October 20, 2007 4:06PM

Jane Pierce.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · October 20, 2007 4:21PM

I don't think they'll ever not sell out.

I have a wierd feeling that the Madison's will actually do very well.

Texast · October 20, 2007 4:29PM

<< On that same note, can someone tell me which stock will go up or drop 2% at the end of the day Monday from Monday's opening price >>

Intel down at least 2, Microsoft down 2, Walmart down 2, Bear Stearns up by 2

HonoluluDude · October 20, 2007 4:49PM

<< Bear Stearns up by 2 >>

Actually, the Bear Stearns chart is pretty bearish. Looks like a good short, if you're a trader type.

FLBuffaloHunter · October 20, 2007 11:08PM

<< I don't think they'll ever not sell out.

I have a wierd feeling that the Madison's will actually do very well. >>

the Uncirculated might take a week or two but the Proof will sellout quickly, just like the previous three. If the Mint raises the mintage limit for next years issues, that's when they may not sellout IMO.

DuPapa · October 20, 2007 11:12PM

<< On that same note, can someone tell me which stock will go up or drop 2% at the end of the day Monday from Monday's opening price.

>>

Put SNTA on your Watch List. Synta Pharmaceuticals Corp

Which way it will go on Monday I don't know, but I'll bet it'll be more than 2% one way or another. I don't hold it now but have done very well with it.
Made over 35% in the first week of Oct by buying and flipping it once.
My profit will get me 100 shares for free if it drops to 7 which I'll buy and hold. Could be another AMGN in the making. Risky business though.

TwoSides2aCoin · October 20, 2007 11:12PM

Did I read somewhere that a total of 40,000 coins across both options will be minted ?

If so, is it possible that 35,000 coins could be proofs and only 5000 might be UNC ? And if that's possible, this series could get very interesting over time.

FLBuffaloHunter · October 20, 2007 11:20PM

<< Did I read somewhere that a total of 40,000 coins across all options will be minted for each ?

If so, is it possible that 35,000 coins could be proofs and only 5000 might be UNC ? And if that's possible, this series could get very interesting over time.

>>

That's how it was for the first two, for the Jefferson's Liberty it was a maximum of 20,000 for each. If they change back to 40,000 across both options, you may be right and that would make a key out of the first threee since collectors will always buy more Proofs than Uncirculated.

FullStrike · October 20, 2007 11:57PM

If any of these coins don't immediately sell-out look for the Mint to offer them until they do. A small mintage of 40,000 begs to be held in inventory until a sell-out happens.

Think 2001 Kennedy's here.

pf70collector · October 21, 2007 12:26AM

The JT is in collectors hands not flippers. The mint saw to that. No one knows the collector base since the flippers bought a lot them. All because the flippers are not making enormous profits doesnt mean the coin is a failure or unpopular.

53BKid · October 21, 2007 7:48AM

<< ... All because the flippers are not making enormous profits doesnt mean the coin is a failure or unpopular. >>

It just means the flippers who haven't flipped yet are unloading them as quick as they can. They'll also be a lot more cautious on the next issues

CoinHusker · October 21, 2007 8:01AM

My hermetically sealed mayonaise jar, with my answer in it, is still sitting on Funk and Wagnal's front porch so I'll have to pass.

ricko · October 21, 2007 8:06AM

It is a trash series to begin with... Doubtful it will ever be a big collector focus. Cheers, RickO

FullStrike · October 21, 2007 6:56PM

<< It is a trash series to begin with... Doubtful it will ever be a big collector focus. Cheers, RickO >>

The US Mint has become the Franklin Mint. Will we soon see all the Walt Disney characters on Gold Bullion Coins? How about something to top the 1 kilo Canadian Dinner Plate Coin?

pf70collector · October 21, 2007 9:06PM

When they start adding Walt Disney characters to U.S. minted coins I wll exit the coin collecting hobby for moderns.

tydye · October 21, 2007 10:13PM

I dont consider the Jefferson sold out as most of its current holders are not end users (collectors).

tydye · October 21, 2007 10:13PM

edit for double post

dpoole · October 21, 2007 10:47PM

For the long, hard slog through the entire series, it'll eventually be the hard core series collectors buying. This is particularly true if the Mint keeps on spewing out new series and variations in precious metals every five minutes, and if they keep limitations on the number of purchases per household.

I'll be surprised if there turned out to be 20,000 series collectors if all that happens.

aficionado · October 22, 2007 3:46AM

I think the series has legs until the end of 2008. The last two coins in 2008 are Liberty's.

There will be 5 coins in 2009, I predict the Anna Harrison will have trouble selling out, but the Mint is wise, they might cut production for that year :

2009:
9 Anna Harrison 1841
10 Letitia Tyler 1841-1842
Julia Tyler 1844-1845
11 Sarah Polk 1845-1849
12 Margaret Taylor 1849-1850

SeattleSlammer · October 22, 2007 4:10AM

Which Presidential Spouse will be the first NOT to sell out?

Technically, based just on your question as written, once ONE sells out, ALL of the remaining ones tie at being the "first" to not sell out.

57loaded · October 22, 2007 4:19AM

<< Which Presidential Spouse will be the first NOT to sell out?

Techncally, based just on your question as written, once ONE sells out, ALL of the remaining ones tie at being the "first" to not sell out. >>

that makes my brain hurt, i can get past your spelling, but not the logic....more coffee for me i guess

Bochiman · October 22, 2007 4:23AM

<< I dont consider the Jefferson sold out as most of its current holders are not end users (collectors). >>

That's YOUR definition. The common, and most understood, definition is that when something is no longer available from its original sales point (the USMint in this case) it is sold out.

If a concert sells out in an hour but a lot of the purchases were for resale (scalpers) it is still sold-out.

Bochiman · October 22, 2007 4:27AM

<< 

<< Which Presidential Spouse will be the first NOT to sell out?

Techncally, based just on your question as written, once ONE sells out, ALL of the remaining ones tie at being the "first" to not sell out. >>

that makes my brain hurt, i can get past your spelling, but not the logic....more coffee for me i guess >>

I'm with you on that, Bill. Slammer needs to word things so others can understand. I think he is trying to be funny or semantical. Reading the original question it is quite easy to see how it is written and generally understood.....which one in the series will be the first one in the series not to sell out (ie.....to end its run with supply still at the USMint).

There really isn't any other way to cut it....maybe SSlammer needs more coffee

57loaded · October 22, 2007 4:29AM

<< 

<< 

<< Which Presidential Spouse will be the first NOT to sell out?

Techncally, based just on your question as written, once ONE sells out, ALL of the remaining ones tie at being the "first" to not sell out. >>

that makes my brain hurt, i can get past your spelling, but not the logic....more coffee for me i guess >>

I'm with you on that, Bill. Slammer needs to word things so others can understand. I think he is trying to be funny or semantical. Reading the original question it is quite easy to see how it is written and generally understood.....which one in the series will be the first one in the series not to sell out (ie.....to end its run with supply still at the USMint).

There really isn't any other way to cut it....maybe SSlammer needs more coffee

>>

but i'm still interested in an explanation for us "challenged" folk.

SeattleSlammer · October 22, 2007 4:30AM

I do need more coffee! And I'm definitely in the city for it!

SeattleSlammer · October 22, 2007 4:42AM

I just meant that being the first to NOT do something literally happens very fast in this case.....as soon as one coin becomes the first to sell out, ALL of the remaining coins haven't sold out yet, so ALL of them tie at becoming the "first" to not sell out.

Does that help?

I realize that we're referring to which coin ULTIMATELY won't sell out.....but that's a different question than the one asked here....at least in terms of semantics.

57loaded · October 22, 2007 5:14AM

<< I just meant that being the first to NOT do something literally happens very fast in this case.....as soon as one coin becomes the first to sell out, ALL of the remaining coins haven't sold out yet, so ALL of them tie at becoming the "first" to not sell out.

Does that help?

I realize that we're referring to which coin ULTIMATELY won't sell out.....but that's a different question than the one asked here....at least in terms of semantics. >>

but of course the other future ones have not been offered for sale....and i think most everybody would exclude those, you can include them if you want. i get it.... ;-)

try a nice hot tea, either a china black or if you want something kinda different go with a jasmine downey(sp) pearl ( 3 minute steep) (peet's not starbucks...are peet's even allowed in seattle??

jmski52 · October 22, 2007 6:15AM

Technically, based just on your question as written, once ONE sells out, ALL of the remaining ones tie at being the "first" to not sell out.

Slow down, Slammer. My question was exactly what I meant. The first coin NOT to sell out will be the first one where sales are discontinued without selling all 20,000 coins. This could be a single issue or several. The question asked for your opinion on which coin that would be.

I was going to add a followup question, but I don't want to confuse the issue.

mcheath · October 22, 2007 6:27AM

Is it me or have the threads been getting worse around here?

DeepCoin · October 22, 2007 6:34AM

My guess is the first one not to sell out will be the first offering in 2008. The mint will probably make far too many of them, based upon the sellouts in 07. This misreading of the market will cause them to make zillions and probably sell less than 20000 (current production/limit) of some of the coins produced next year. At the end of the series, I suspect the 2008 coins will be the most undersold and then become the keys after no one buys them. Just a WAG, not ever a SWAG.

LALASD4 · October 22, 2007 6:52AM

<< 

<< On that same note, can someone tell me which stock will go up or drop 2% at the end of the day Monday from Monday's opening price.

>>

Put SNTA on your Watch List. Synta Pharmaceuticals Corp

Which way it will go on Monday I don't know, but I'll bet it'll be more than 2% one way or another. I don't hold it now but have done very well with it.
Made over 35% in the first week of Oct by buying and flipping it once.
My profit will get me 100 shares for free if it drops to 7 which I'll buy and hold. Could be another AMGN in the making. Risky business though. >>

It didn't do me any good if you don't know which way it will go.

But I got myself some bullish Apple call spreads.

Bochiman · October 22, 2007 7:04AM

<< I just meant that being the first to NOT do something literally happens very fast in this case.....as soon as one coin becomes the first to sell out, ALL of the remaining coins haven't sold out yet, so ALL of them tie at becoming the "first" to not sell out.

Does that help?

I realize that we're referring to which coin ULTIMATELY won't sell out.....but that's a different question than the one asked here....at least in terms of semantics. >>

Like I said...you were playing semantics. If a coin hasn't been released, it can't "not have sold out". I think everyone knew, and understood, the OP and question....no reason to try to be funny

blu62vette · October 22, 2007 8:09AM

On that same note, can someone tell me which stock will go up or drop 2% at the end of the day Monday from Monday's opening price.

AAPL, oh whoops a little late for that......

cheezhed · October 22, 2007 10:45AM

It all depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.

LALASD4 · October 22, 2007 10:52AM

<< On that same note, can someone tell me which stock will go up or drop 2% at the end of the day Monday from Monday's opening price.

AAPL, oh whoops a little late for that...... >>

Which Presidential Spouse will be the first NOT to sell out?

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